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In the paper today....I say...send up AC/DC!!
Aliens could misinterpret earth's classic songs as declarations of war if they are recklessly broadcast into space, some scientists say. Last week NASA broadcast a Beatles song, Across the Universe, towards the North Star, in the hope it would be noticed by extra-terrestrial beings. "Before sending out even symbolic messages, we need an open discussion about the potential risks," New Scientist magazine reported Dr Douglas Vakoch of the SETI Institute as saying. Professor Barrie Jones of Open University said: "the chances are slight, but the consequences would be huge — the end of life on Earth". "If they have the technology to cross interstellar space to reach us, they will be so much in advance of us humans that there is nothing we could do to resist them," he said. SETI — the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence — has been listening to the skies for the last 20 years. The program uses radio telescopes to scan for any messages or noises that may indicate the existence of life on other planets. Scientist Ainin De Horta, from the SETI Australia Centre, said the there could be dangers in broadcasting songs into deep space. But he didn't think it would lead to an intergalactic war. "I think the chances are pretty unlikely that it'll lead to an alien invasion, but I do think there is a point that this should be discussed by the whole world, because who knows what'll happen," Mr De Horta said. "I think it's highly unlikely that this message will cause a reaction, and that it'll cause a reaction in our lifetime." Radio waves travel through space at the speed of light or nearly 300,000km per second. The first radio transmission, sent in the 1920s, would have travelled nearly 90 light years by now. "It's not like picking up the phone and ringing me for instance," Mr De Horta said. "We're talking about vast distances and a response would take years from even the closet star." SETI has had a few close calls, or what they call "candidates", but Mr De Horta says any authentic messages would have been identified. "We get what we call candidates every so often, but none of them turn out to be something that can't be explained, like a statistical anomaly or equipment glitch." The nearest star to Earth, Alpha Proxima, is four light years away.
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So want the drugs these people are on.
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Is it april 1 already?
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Maybe Ziggy Stardust and The Spiders From Mars will come visit us after hearing Space Oddity :P
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Oh no, here comes Mork !
Best we start preparing to say "Nanoo Nanoo" alot.
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One can only hope that they dont start pumping out Shannon Noll. That would definately start a inter galactic war
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BTW Colleen, didn't your avatar used to 'bounce'? Or was it just wishful thinking on my part.
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Prof Steven Hawking has similar views:
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The argument is that any one/thing that hears and has the technology to visit us will obviously be more technologically advanced (i.e the technology to come to earth from far away) and we might end up being displaced, enslaved or mistreated by colonising aliens in a similar way to the colonial empires colonised Africa, America and Australia.
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And again:\\http://www.stumbleupon.com/url/www.hawking.org.uk/
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In Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy didn't some guy "say something" or " burp" and it started a war??
I remember getting an email with a few pics from the space station and there was something "unexplained" outside one of the windows in a pic. Who knows!! I think it is pretty arrogant to think we are the one and only life force out there.
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All they have to do is broadcast Barry Manilow or something similar out there, then we're almost guaranteed to have no alien contact.
Geez Louise - bounce away
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After talking to Wulos...have decided to leave her be. Sorry Duke.
Getting back to topic....
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I think we should minimise the risks and listen for alien life but not broadcast our prescence and invite trouble. I also thinks the risk associated with this Large Hadron Collider (LHC) project just starting to become active http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider is another case of high risk irresponsible science
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http://www.risk-evaluation-forum.org/
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Alos see http://www.misunderstooduniverse.com...ay_Machine.htm
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Aussiblue...state your name and planet!!!
You know too much!!
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Xyenophus 7 from the remains of Earth in the year 3008 come to warn you not to play with dangerous things you don't know enough about.
BTW Bring back the bounce - we need a poll on this issue.
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Having said that...you want the gif file I will send to you!
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If you aren't familiar with it, the JT story is about a guy who appeared on the net in a few chatrooms back in 2000 and claimed to be a time traveller from the future (2036). He hung around for a few months then said he was returning to the future and stopped posting. He had a rather elaborate story to go with it all, some of which is verified by science as we know it today. Anyway, part of his story surrounding the science and workings of his time machine revolves around discoveries yet to be made at CERN which allow the technology to become a possibility. Interestingly, the machine supposedly worked using 2 rotating (Kerr) micro-black holes to form a Tippler cylinder. I couldn't actually fault the science he gave, mainly because it's all theories and nothing is tested once you get that far in. Suffice it to say the specific formula he gave is a part of one of the many variations of string theory. CERN has been making anti-matter for years, but no big deal. It decays instantly and we're talking a few molecules at a time. It's hardly an anti-matter factory. Most of it is underground and yes that's the area that would be affected because it's built on the French-Swiss border. Even if it were to blow up during an experiment, I'd say it would be unlikely to damage anything outside the immediate area. The collision would stop working immediately and stop producing whatever is being produced at the time and as it is, even when they do succeed, antimatter and black holes decay immediately. CERN has been the driving force behind much of todays technology, including making it possible for you and I to communicate via this medium, and nanotech. I'm quite keen to see the LHC go online, one of the planned experiments is the search for a strange particle that might possibly be responsible for mass. Imagine the implications of that...
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Somewhere it was said that even the most powerfull signals will degrade into noise far short of the nearest star system.
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Yes I agree CERN has done a lot of good things in the past.
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