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Old 15-05-2007, 12:17 AM   #1
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Im interested in getting some xenon bulbs for my EL falcon. ordinarily the low beam bulbs are H1 55. would a 100W H1 xenon bulb be alright? what effect what upping the wattage have???

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Old 15-05-2007, 01:02 AM   #2
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dont up the wattage. would make it brighter so it be like drivn round with high beam n then people wood highbeam u bak. just get regular white xenons, parkers and headlights. the super white looks gr8. also clean ur lenses and if u want get lil coloured silicone caps. i put blue ones on my parkers, so wehn just parkers r on, it looks hell blue!
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Old 15-05-2007, 01:05 AM   #3
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is that legal tho to have the blue parkers?
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Old 15-05-2007, 01:36 AM   #4
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meh, i dunno. its basically undetectable when headies r on unless r lookin for the blue dot, n when parkers r on, its just all blue, looks real good! heres a photo alltho shitty quality...
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WTF? how do u add photos so people dont have to go 2 the link?
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Old 15-05-2007, 10:21 AM   #6
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Just so you know blue parkers are illegal. But im still getting a set either way just dont drive round with you parkers on near the police.
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Old 15-05-2007, 03:54 PM   #7
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Just so you know blue parkers are illegal. But im still getting a set either way just dont drive round with you parkers on near the police.
Why not just get yellow. They are not illegal.
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Old 15-05-2007, 04:50 PM   #8
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What sorta globes are the high beams? H1's or H3's?
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Why not just get yellow. They are not illegal.
Because yellow looks crap!

White parkers and white lights look the best. I wouldnt mind getting those crystal vision globes from Phillips but there worth $100! The diamond vision which are a bluer colour are $200. Both of these lights are illegal for road use.
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http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...mageID=4096317


WTF? how do u add photos so people dont have to go 2 the link?

[im g] then u type the URL of image http://a512.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...5aa965ec0f.jpg
then close with a [/img]

with no space in the first img
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Old 15-05-2007, 11:34 PM   #11
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all my cars run the chrystal vision globes... hell the ba came with them factory
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mine r phillips blue vision which are legal
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Old 16-05-2007, 11:18 AM   #13
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Im interested in getting some xenon bulbs for my EL falcon. ordinarily the low beam bulbs are H1 55. would a 100W H1 xenon bulb be alright? what effect what upping the wattage have???

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very cheap n i've got them on my car, tell the guy Ash sent you n he'll fix you up, and yeah not only upping the wattage is alot brighter, but you can wreck you wires n all, as its alot hotter, n if your using projector headlights (like the xr), they won't last very long due to the excessive heat. hope this helps
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Old 16-05-2007, 09:17 PM   #14
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putting in higher wattage wrecks the crome looking stuff inside your headlight, which stops the light reflecting properly. i thought low beam headlight bulbs were H4's?
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Old 16-05-2007, 09:38 PM   #15
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H4 is dual filament so is for both low and high.

Blue-tinted bulbs generally shine as white so will not cause any legal complications. However the tint significantly reduces light output and increases heat. Like higher wattage bulbs, this can result in damage to wiring as well as accelerated fading of headlight reflectors.

In my opinion, the Autotecnica bulbs from Kmart as good as the super expensive Philips etc. White LEDs are ideal for parkers but on most E Series models they would not last long due to being so close to the hot headlight bulb. (later XR models being the exception)
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Does anyone know how much brighter you can go, before you have to start re-wiring???
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Old 17-05-2007, 02:10 PM   #17
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dont worry about parker lights, who uses them anyway?
they are meant for parking on the side of the road in dark places so people dont run up the back of your car.
instead, put reflective masking tape all over your bumper.
its all the rage with the kids wearing trucker hats crooked so they look like they have a low iq
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Does anyone know how much brighter you can go, before you have to start re-wiring???
depends, when you start going 100watters, then you might have problems, especailly if you have projector headlights....
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Old 17-05-2007, 08:26 PM   #19
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thanks to all the replies! looks like ill stick to 55W. so some bulbs dont need the blue tint and they shine white, whereas som have the blue tint to make em white - is that right? I thought cheap blue tinted ones would be fine but after reading that this makes them heat up more and cut down light ouput im not so sure - anyone else agree with that??

Ill keep the high beamers yellow in case i cant see in the rain lol
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Any ideas as to how to clean your headlight insides well?
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i got those crystal vision lites on my EF they dont throw the beam far on the road but lite every sign up and lane markers up they look cool in the darkness of a freeway cept when it rains cant see crap on the road

i got told off for having them from a coppa on a booze bus stop they gave off a lil blue tinge and i did have blue LED parkers and they got pinched by New Oak Ford

and they are H4
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No incandescent bulb without the blue tint will shine white (as distinguished from yellow-white). It is theoretically possible but has not been done to my knowledge, HID is the direction things have moved in.
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No incandescent bulb without the blue tint will shine white (as distinguished from yellow-white). It is theoretically possible but has not been done to my knowledge, HID is the direction things have moved in.
agreed HID is def the way to go if you have the money though, mate are you running H4's? if you are i can sell you a Pair of Blue Vision Philips, which were brought for $80 but as its 2nd hand will make a good price, they were on my old car, only been used for 3months until i had my crash, and now my XR is running H1's....
OR If you want to buy HID i know a guy that does them very cheap compared to someplaces where you'll pay $700 +
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Old 18-05-2007, 08:32 PM   #24
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I need H1's. the fairmont ghia and some others run the H4's.
alrighty so blue tint is needed for the white light. thanks for clarifying.
How does HID differ? that still use xenon?
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Not 100% sure about the HID's, but they run a totally different system, the bulbs to replace are around $200 each, and run on a converter box thing, You know them meercs or bmw's wiht though white blue lights that stand out hard from the rest..well those are it, n as i said i can get them very cheap compared to other places like autobarn n all em,
as for your H1's Im running them in my car, withthe blue tint, not as bright as a normal light, but look 100times better, n i got my pair for..hmmm $15 i think it was?
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HIDs generally speaking are dangerous and illegal in reflector headlamps (as the vast majority of Falcons have). If you want to see a proper retrofit, see MADNC_8's car. A kit installed in a standard ED-EL XR or NA-NC Fairlane would work OK too.

HIDs use gas discharge capsules instead of incandescent globes; instead of a heated glowing filament, they produce an arc of pure white light. They require huge voltage for start-up and a ballast, but when operating consume much less energy and potentially last much longer before the capsules (globes) need replacing.
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I bought some xenon bulbs. they were cheap. they are whiter and slightly brighter which is good, but still got nothing on those HID's in those accord euros I see just about every night! No blue tinge at all, which is good in one way cos it won't attract attention but not as cool...

I pulled the parkers out cos they are yellow and are on at the same time as headlights so tinge things yellow. What I want to know is what are the legalities regarding parking lights? can I stick some blue parkers in there - that will give the main headlight a nice blue tinge and look sweet!!! or is that illegal????

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Blue is illegal because it is an emergency service vehicle light colour.

White LEDs are great for parkers unless the parker is close to a hot headlamp (as in non-XR E series) - heat would kill them fast.

I'd suggest a blue-tinted incandescent bulb, which would appear white like your headlight bulbs.

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thanks. whats the heat gonna do to the LED's?
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Also a couple of bulbs are blown behind my instrument cluster. I want some blue LED's in there i reckon! how easy is it to pull out the cluster and replace the bulbs?
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