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The first generation EVs typically couldn't carry any trailer or external loads.
That seems to be changing, and here is a list I found on an European site: Model-name Trailer-load Roof-load: EV's currently for sale: Hyundai Kona 300 kg roof 80 kg Kia e-Soul 300 kg 80 kg Nissan e-NV200 van 450 kg 100 kg Jaguar I-Pace 750 kg 75 kg Tesla Model 3 *) 910 kg 75 kg Polestar 2 1.500 kg 75 kg Audi e-tron 1.800 kg 75 kg Audi e-tron Sportback 1.800 kg 75 kg Mercedes-Benz EQC 1.800 kg 75 kg Tesla Model X 2.250 kg 0 kg – Models about to be launched: Ford Mustang Mach-e 750 kg 0 kg Skoda Enyaq 1.000 kg (2x4)/1.200 kg (4x4) roof yes. VW ID.4 1.000 kg (2x4)/1.200 kg (4x4) roof yes. BYD Tang 1.410 kg roof yes. Nissan Ariya 1.500 kg roof yes Volvo XC40 Recharge 1.500 kg 75 kg Tesla Model Y (Incl. Performance) 1.600 kg roof yes. BMW iX3 750 kg roof 75 kg Cheers |
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New EV Transit will tow around 1700kg, not sure on the roof load.
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Hi, yes you are right, the article mentioned Kona didn't have towing first, but the importer had to retrospectively offer the 300kg due to lost sales and customer pressure. The article suggested 300 kg isn't much, just enough to carry home new washer machine or similar, so better than nothing. And the article mentioned after market engineering for other EVs.
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If EV's are meant to become mainstream they should be able to tow at least 750kgs and carry a light load on the roof.
Even my Jimny with it's **** weak engine and bad driving characteristics can tow. Why shouldn't a modern electric? |
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Range anxiety I reckon. |
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Most obvious reason is the drain on batteries but then there is also the possibility of the trailer overpowering the regenerative braking system. There are some cars that can tow but are not certified in AU to do so. In fairness, your Jimny can only tow 350kg (unbraked). https://www.carsales.com.au/editoria...ic-car-131199/ https://www.whichcar.com.au/car-advi...ood-for-towing
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why would you tow with a Mustang? any mustang?
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So most of them is because they're just not designed to have a tow bar. With batteries running the length of the floor and the positions of the rear motors, it makes it interesting putting in tow bars. Add the extra weight of EVs, and it becomes harder to manage axle weights.
Regen won't have issues when towing. Its just that manufacturers aren't priortising development of tow bars. As is the case with many manufacturers of ICE as well these days. It seems that towing is more positioned to the SUV/4x4/Dual Cab brigade and sedans have forfeit towing. Wait till Rivian, F150, Cybertruck, etc hit the market. They are purpose built for towing and will tow great loads. Towing with a Model X made the 2000 kgs behind it almost feel non-existent. Was a joy to tow with that car. But the standard for that class is 3000-3500kgs so the 2250 is under par.
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Would be nice in theory. V8, big brakes... It should make towing easy. Its like all those GT Falcons used for towing.
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you are right wait for the purpose built tow vehicles to be produced before we "weigh in" on the towing debate
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That seems to be changing now. Sent from my Pixel 5 using Tapatalk
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I cannot see Ford's F150 Lightning on the list. There are numerous internet sites reporting that it can tow 10,000 pounds (about 4,500 kg), albeit with vastly reduced range.
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Why would you tow with a Falcon or Commie? Any Falcon or Commie.
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Jetski, small pop top, anything that allows you to get away and enjoy the country for a short time. My question is why wouldn't you want to tow with your Mustang.
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