Drove a mustang 2.3 turbo.. - Page 2

**DJM83** · 11-08-2016, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by FairmontGS

I've no problem with the 6 cylinder as it was always offered with the original. The 4 is just wrong.

I do see what you mean, but id rather the Ecoboost than the crappy 3.7L V6 that comes in it. If it were the 3.5LTT V6 then it would be different.

**FairmontGS** · 11-08-2016, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

I do see what you mean, but id rather the Ecoboost than the crappy 3.7L V6 that comes in it. If it were the 3.5LTT V6 then it would be different.

Yep. The latter is a ripper of a unit.

Anyway, back on topic for the thread sorry.

**PepeLePew** · 11-08-2016, 12:26 PM

Ford have a niche to fill, they filled it. The V6 is/was a piece of crap. The EB is a pretty acceptable thing these days, not my thing in Mustang but there are those who may actually prefer it. Don't like it, don't buy it.

8's like it or not are a bit on the nose to some. But the Mustang look combined with what is a quick though relative to the 8 soulless engine (it's got the runs on the board no matter what it feels like behind the wheel, think even the journos commented it's deceptive) sells more Mustangs in total. I wouldn't buy one, but I know plenty that would.

Sox · 11-08-2016, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikked

So the mustang has always been wrong?

Wrapped in anything less than V8, yep.
Just like Falcons should only ever had V8's and I6's.
The 4 pot Falcon was a miserable failure, as will the 4 pot 'Stang be in OZ.

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Originally Posted by DJM83

The 4 cylinder mustang has its place and im sure its a nice drive and the engine is proven really. But yeah id take a focus RS.

So would I, and I'm not into 4 pot cars at all.
Speaks volumes for a 4 pot 'Stang.

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No excuses here, be funny to see some people driving late model V8 falcons have a drive of a turbo 4 and see what they think.

It doesn't matter what they think.
4 pots don't belong in 'Stangs, never did.

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Again only need to look at the Focus RS it will destroy ~~most~~ all late model standard falcons. But i know hot hatches arent for everyone. But it may not have the soul of a V8 falcon though in some peoples eyes.

A 4 pot hot hatch is a totally different thing to a 'Stang.

4 pots have there place, but it isn't in a mighty Mustang.

Franco Cozzo · 11-08-2016, 01:23 PM

Didn't they have a 2.3L turbo variant of the Mustang a few decades ago?

**M&Ms** · 11-08-2016, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SprintFg

I was told around $55k.. Plus the car had an optional $7500 body kit. I was also told buying the demonstrator would be same price as brand new, just don't have To wait..

V8 around $65k but was emailed a quote of $63500 drive away for manual fastback v8.

For $55k no way I'd go the 2.3 turbo. Bought my fgx xr8 for $53k brand new

But go test drive yourself, I was totally underwhelmed with the 4cyl version of mustang

And after driving your XR8, you'll probably be underwhelmed by the V8 Mustang too. They need more power IMO, I bought an XR8 this year too, would upgrade to a Mustang GT350 in a heartbeat if they ever brought them here, but not to the normal GT.

MethodX · 11-08-2016, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Damo

Didn't they have a 2.3L turbo variant of the Mustang a few decades ago?

The svo one from the mid eighties?
Quick in its day

Mercury Bullet · 11-08-2016, 02:34 PM

Weren't these originally ~$45k when released?

$55k is far too much considering the competition. As said you can get an RS for that and I would take that every time.

Then there is XR8 and VF SSV at the same price points.

Nikked · 11-08-2016, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FairmontGS

I've no problem with the 6 cylinder as it was always offered with the original. The 4 is just wrong.

...as was a 4 cly for just under 1/2 its life...

**FairmontGS** · 11-08-2016, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikked

...as was a 4 cly for just under 1/2 its life...

Yeah, and weren't they just the duck's guts?

**FairmontGS** · 11-08-2016, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by M&Ms

And after driving your XR8, you'll probably be underwhelmed by the V8 Mustang too. They need more power IMO, I bought an XR8 this year too, would upgrade to a Mustang GT350 in a heartbeat if they ever brought them here, but not to the normal GT.

The GT Premium is a really nice unit. It's tight and the power delivery is very linear. Excellent handling. Agree tho, no match for our FGs in outright acceleration but a better finished package all round that makes better use of the available power. I never felt the need to "hang on for dear life" in a Mustang unlike my FG GT.

4stanger · 11-08-2016, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet

Weren't these originally ~$45k when released?

$55k is far too much considering the competition. As said you can get an RS for that and I would take that every time.

Then there is XR8 and VF SSV at the same price points.

Yep, $45k plus on road costs, there has been some price rises on all Mustangs since the first release/order, 55k I believe would some dealers drive away price, good on you if you pay that, you are helping the Australian & USA economy

Big_Daz · 11-08-2016, 03:10 PM

I don't get what the big deal is... They offered the V8 GT here so you have no reason to complain with Ford giving us another option...

Maybe a 4 cyl Mustang would appeal to a broader audience, which may have helped the case to bring it here in the first place??

Some people want a Mustang but cant afford/cant justify not only the higher initial purchase price but the ongoing extra Fuel, Rego, Insurance, etc... these people will buy the Ecoboost Mustang...

Wretched · 11-08-2016, 03:18 PM

LOL so much butt hurt about a 4 cylinder Mustang.
Don't like it? Don't buy it.

No point in bagging it, it has the performance (more power and torque than a NA I6) just not the noise that some people prefer. Same could be said about the NA 6 of a Falcon.

Jeez it is a Ford, it looks good, goes well, what else?

Mercury Bullet · 11-08-2016, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 4stanger

Yep, $45k plus on road costs, there has been some price rises on all Mustangs since the first release/order, 55k I believe would some dealers drive away price, good on you if you pay that, you are helping the Australian & USA economy

At 45k I would seriously consider one. 55k no bloody way.

A car like this has to be priced right.

**Polyal** · 11-08-2016, 03:27 PM

This is so classic bogan, people get their nickers in a knot over things that dont effect them.

Pretty sure an EB Mustang is as quick as any stock 5.4 V8 Falcon over the 1/4, and if its not it wont be far off.....so whats the problem?

Patty · 11-08-2016, 03:55 PM

With some mild mods, these ecoboost mustangs can really get up and boogy.

This one in the US just ran 11.6 down the 1/4 mile with some bsaics mods. Modifications to the car are minimal and consist of an upgraded intercooler, downpipe, intake, and a COBB Accessport V3 utilizing a TUNE+ Protune for 93 Octane w/ RGA (Race Gas Additive). Getting the power to the ground is a set of 19×10 SVE wheels with Nitto NT05R Drag Radials. That’s it. Stock suspension, stock transmission, and no Jenny Craig (weight reduction).

I'm not saying i'd get one, but if you wanted to do something different, why not?? If they could make the ecoboost sound good then I'd be interested.

http://www.cobbtuning.com/new-ecoboo...r-mile-record/

blackf6 · 11-08-2016, 03:59 PM

[QUOTE=Polyal;5741658]This is so classic bogan, people get their nickers in a knot over things that dont effect them.

Pretty sure an EB Mustang is as quick as any stock 5.4 V8 Falcon over the 1/4, and if its not it wont be far off.....so whats the problem?[/QUOTE

4 banger Stanga must be slow then. Boss 5.4 is apparently a boat anchor. Don't know why there was a need for this connection to be made.
I would buy the four banger..... For my daughter.

arronm · 11-08-2016, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SprintFg

I bought a fgx xr8 but I was very very close to buying a mustang. Due to the wait, not being able to test drive and the fgx being such a great value muscle car I bought that.

Anyhow I stopped into a ford dealer to have a look. This is the car available to test drive. It had an optional kit fitted.

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There is a considerable wait for the 5.0 so only the 2.3 turbo was available. They fitted the wheels from the 5.0 as well.

First impressions are the car looks very nice, really attractive car and great presence. I've sat in one before, but never driven one.

I didn't think the driving position was that dissimilar to the fgx. Steering wheel was a bit low but seat also low. But I didn't play with it so might be some movement there. The front of the car is humongous. Almost like those old corvettes with the huge front, bat mobile, too big. The rear seat has nothing, it was basically touching the front seat. I know it's not meant to be a family car so for one off trips it would suffice.

Driving the car, you just can't see the front, the bonnet also has what looks like a boss bulge but it's just a crease really on both sides.. Seats were nice n comfy and dash looks ok if not a bit retro looking.

The salesman came with me so not much room in the front. It was a little awkward reaching over to drop the handbrake on the passenger side. Salesman probably thought it was an advance of sorts. Lol

On the road, I wasn't too impressed with the 2.3 turbo. Sound was not befitting of the car, it's a muscle car not a VW!! It wasn't too impressive with power either. I think a n/a ford falcon 6 would have more punch than it.

I wasn't too excited about driving it to be honest, it was auto as well. Just felt like the looks of the car were not matching the way it drove, like it wasn't a real mustang? Weird. I took it back to dealer quickly. Honestly I found it as exciting as driving a Toyota Camry.

The sales manager said so what do you think..

My first words were " you just can't buy the mustang with the 4cyl motor" no way. It's V8 or nothing. He tried to justify the car that people using it as a daily buy them but enthusiasts are staunch on the V8.

I also asked if a baby seat would fit in the back, salesman says you don't buy this sort of car for family duties, my response was, do you buy this sort of car for its 4 cylinder performance?" A real show pony (excuse the pun).

I'm glad I bought the fgx xr8, it's a car that you drive, you think geez it has some punch, geez it sounds nice, geez you could get into some real trouble in it, you park it and walk away thinking that's a special bit of kit. As you do if you drive a FPV GT or F6 or xr6t. They are special.

But this mustang was a real sheep in wolfs clothing. I love the look of the car but the drive was very underwhelming. I would still like to buy one but it must be a V8, it must be a manual.. But I think I need to drive it before putting down the cash, what I drove today was like driving a falcon Xt i6 with a GT body kit. It needs to feel special to match its super looks, the substance to match its style.

I think we are really going to miss the falcon, particularly the performance models, they didn't ever look as good as a mustang but geez they drive with some excitement.

im happy with the fgx and until I drive a mustang 5.0, I can't say that I'm sold on the mustang. I won't be buying one site unseen, need to drive the 5.0 and I hope it changes my mind. I hope the 5.0 is a great drive as you cannot buy the falcon v8 any more.

That's exactly how I felt when I drove a stock , manual, Miami FPV GT. Expected so much but it just didn't deliver. Nothing a tune wouldnt fix though.

Franco Cozzo · 11-08-2016, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by blackf6

I would buy the four banger..... For my daughter.

What if she wants the V8 though?

If I was going to buy the new Mustang, put me down for the 4 banger.

Could walk in yesterday and drive out with it the day before instead of waiting another year for it

4, 6, 8 cylinders, owned em all no particular preference.

Give me the one I can easily make go faster and if I'm putting down coin I want to be driving it yesterday not next year.

Sox · 11-08-2016, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Damo

What if she wants the V8 though?

If I was going to buy the new Mustang, put me down for the 4 banger.

Could walk in yesterday and drive out with it the day before instead of waiting another year for it

4, 6, 8 cylinders, owned em all no particular preference.

Give me the one I can easily make go faster and if I'm putting down coin I want to be driving it yesterday not next year.

I'm happy to wait 5 years.

I'll get a V8 when they're 15k.
I'll get a 4 pot when hell freezes over.

bdave351 · 11-08-2016, 04:49 PM

Hate to be another negative nelly but i sold my GT a couple of weeks ago and gave the mustang a look since it was all ford had.

Suffice to say I am no longer a ford owner as it just didn't cut the mustard despite it being my dream car other than a GT when I was growing up.

**M&Ms** · 11-08-2016, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

Pretty sure an EB Mustang is as quick as any stock 5.4 V8 Falcon over the 1/4, and if its not it wont be far off.....so whats the problem?

Can the Ecoboost do 0-100 in 5.1 seconds? My 5.4 GT could.....

They're slow, really, they are. The 5.0 Mustang is barely adequate IMO...

Crazy Dazz · 11-08-2016, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by EB#

As has been mentioned before in other threads, the Mustang was traditionally released with a range of engines. Eg. in '74 I believe the car was available with either a 4, 6 or 8 cylinder engine.

And as has been explained before, there's a reason that abomination is still referred to as the "Mustang II" or simply the "Pinto Mustang."

Holden once fitted a 4 cylinder to their commode, and realised it was a huge mistake.
Ford fitted a 4 cylinder to their Falcon, and they sold like 2nd-hand undies at the op shop.

Yes, the Mustang in America has always come with a big 6 as an entry level, to make it an affordable Pony car.
And if they sold the V6 version here at an affordable price, I'd have no problem with that.

Really, I guess its rather obvious why you can buy a 4 cylinder ex stock, and there's still a humongous waiting list for the V8.

As those arguing about its performance. "It's faster than a poverty pack Falcon"

4stanger · 11-08-2016, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

As those arguing about its performance. "It's faster than a poverty pack Falcon"

Our honorable op started the "poverty pack Falcon" comparison,
http://www.fordforums.com.au/showpos...35&postcount=1
and also mentioned;
vw
toyota camry
FPV GT or F6 or xr6t
Falcon Xt i6
Fgx xr8
really a post set out to achieve some great debate from an obvious stirring biased opinion, I am surprised the aurion wasn't brought up, very hulk like.

.:4:. · 11-08-2016, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

And as has been explained before, there's a reason that abomination is still referred to as the "Mustang II" or simply the "Pinto Mustang."

Holden once fitted a 4 cylinder to their commode, and realised it was a huge mistake.
Ford fitted a 4 cylinder to their Falcon, and they sold like 2nd-hand undies at the op shop.

Yes, the Mustang in America has always come with a big 6 as an entry level, to make it an affordable Pony car.
And if they sold the V6 version here at an affordable price, I'd have no problem with that.

Really, I guess its rather obvious why you can buy a 4 cylinder ex stock, and there's still a humongous waiting list for the V8.

As those arguing about its performance. "It's faster than a poverty pack Falcon"

I think the 2l turbo falcon was more fit for purpose as opposed to the starfire 4 commodore or even the sun bird. 16kws down but only .2 or something to 100 isn't that bad compared to the 6. Couldn't say the same for the 1.9 starfire. Owning both an ecoboost fg and a 4l bf, as different as they are, neither is notably different in performance. The 2l will never be a 335 gt, and the 4l will never be a xr6t. The g6 eb was cheaper though... 2 years old, 10 months from the delivery date... 23000k 19 grand. Good thing that no one wants them

STINKY NINJA · 11-08-2016, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by arronm

That's exactly how I felt when I drove a stock , manual, Miami FPV GT. Expected so much but it just didn't deliver. Nothing a tune wouldnt fix though.

Lol don't stir the Miami boys up,so much sensitive feelings.
You are spoilt for power with all those silver f6's haha

STINKY NINJA · 11-08-2016, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by M&Ms

Can the Ecoboost do 0-100 in 5.1 seconds? My 5.4 GT could.....

They're slow, really, they are. The 5.0 Mustang is barely adequate IMO...

What did it run on the 1/4?
Im curious.

Junkyard-Dog · 11-08-2016, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by STINKY NINJA

What did it run on the 1/4?
Im curious.

Still waiting on it...

nstg8a · 11-08-2016, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by STINKY NINJA

What did it run on the 1/4?
Im curious.

My fg xr8 ran 13.6 dead stock, even with dunslops still in place. An eb mustang would be right up its clacker haha.

I'd quite like a eb mustang, don't really see it as being any different to buying a skyline, wrx or any other smaller engined performance car.

People get too hung up on the badge, and ignore the actual car.