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Old 04-11-2012, 09:51 AM   #1
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Yesterday I traveled to my mums 250klm to Tucumwal whilst there I serviced her car, changed oil & filter, air filter and topped up water.
I started the car yesterday without an issue after the filling oil, also started it and drove back into the garage after fitting a new air filter.
This morning mum turns the key and it wont start, it just continues to turn over without firing.
She has noticed a different light came on the dash, right hand side.
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Old 04-11-2012, 12:59 PM   #2
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Does it just keep cranking and not firing, then when you go off and try again it will fire up fine?

Or just still won't fire.

Because my first Focus had an issue where it would just crank crank crank crank, not fire, then if you went to off and back to start it again it would fire up fine.
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Old 04-11-2012, 03:01 PM   #3
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What / where exactly is the new light? The check engine light is on the right hand side within the speedo. Do you have an OBDII scanner?
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Old 04-11-2012, 03:36 PM   #4
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Does it just keep cranking and not firing, then when you go off and try again it will fire up fine?

Or just still won't fire.

Because my first Focus had an issue where it would just crank crank crank crank, not fire, then if you went to off and back to start it again it would fire up fine.
This morning it just went crank crank crank no firing.
Mum had to go out, her friend had to pick her up I will get her to try it again when she comes home.

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What / where exactly is the new light? The check engine light is on the right hand side within the speedo. Do you have an OBDII scanner?
I am back in Melb when she gets home I will have her look in her service book see what the light is, no scanner and my poor mum the only thing she can do to a car is fuel it up, her partner who has some car knowledge is in Hospital.
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Ok let us know how it goes. If it is an engine light, see if you can borrow a scanner, pull the code and diagnose the fault.
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The light is the Engine warning light is on.
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Are you anywhere near NE suburbs of Melbourne? You're welcome to borrow my scanner (if you happen to be heading back up to your mum's place)
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Sounds like its immobilised for some reason.
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Old 05-11-2012, 02:14 AM   #9
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Sounds like its immobilised for some reason.
I was thinking that as well, turns out the engine light is always there when the car is cranking over and she has only just noticed it.

Late afternoon I spoke (Dave) DP747 he is on the road with the RACV here in Melb, he asked me what happened I explained it in detail and he picked the problem strait away and told me they see it often the car was flooded, yes flooded, the fix was hold your foot flat to the floor and crank the car until it comes back, it will chug a bit then clears itself and runs normal.
This required a lot battery power so mum waited until the RACV guy in Tocumwal connected his jump batteries, once the car was going she went for a long drive to recharge the battery.
Apparently what happens if you do a cold start and run the car for only a few seconds it still has a belly full of fuel and this causes starting issues, never heard of it with EFI, the old carburetor days it was more common.
Thanks everyone for the input and Dave I owe you a coke.
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Old 05-11-2012, 07:57 AM   #10
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That 'foot to the floor' trick! Oh the memories... In the 180B, dads XA and XF and my Sprite. All Carby. Didn't think you could flood an EFI motor??????

Anyway, sounds like it's sorted.
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Thats odd, I too didn't think you could flood an EFI system, learn something new every day I guess.
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