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It's probably a fair comment: https://www.facebook.com/DashCamOwne...8489978699833/
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I like where the article says "Does Toyota have any weaknesses?" and makes no mention of the diesel engine DPF fault.
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Millions of ppl don't give a toss about what their car looks like or goes like nowadays. They just want it to get them from A to B without breaking and causing hassles. this is what Toyota excels at. Their cars do nothing best but most things middle of the road and reliably. I would never buy one. I have noticed a few chinks in their armour of late though but loyalty will take care of most of them.
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I'm not much of a Toyota fan, but there's a few different Toyotas I wouldn't mind owning.
My work had Prados for years, they stopped buying them because they were 'too expensive'. They started buying Pajeros instead. After almost 5 years of Pajero they are now buying Prados again because they last longer and spend less time off the road. Pajeros are not exactly unreliable, but they are a fantastic pick if you want a brand new car that feels 10 years old as you drive it off the showroom floor. |
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Not in this country, no. They have a range of cars and SUV's so vast that no one else can offer such a full range of vehicles.
That is their big advantage, plus they dominate fleets. |
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The article doesn't tell the whole story.
The drop in sales for them is hurting their bottom line (they rely heavily on low margin sales for fleets). There have been internal meetings where large projects are now put on ice/cancelled due to budget constraints and a number of staff have been let go (permanent and contractors, just this week 15 were let go). It isn't a positive place to work but not as bad as Holden is right now. They are still recovering from a cyber attack in February this year that took out their business for 2 weeks. So yes, Sean (VP of marketing) may be good at the spin but hasn't told the whole story.
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To quote Napoleon "never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake"
I attribute much of Toyota's success to the massive stupidity, engineered negligence, over inflated ego's and criminal mentality that seems to be prevalent with most of the other major auto manufacturers. |
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Ha ha cheap, yes that is a factor!
Arronm I did have a chuckle at cheekiness of the meme, we might all note that these most certainly did not stop Japan. I visited Hiroshima as a 15 year old many years ago, went to the bomb museum, came out in tears. The residual radiation is very low (low yield device - modern ones will be far more powerful and dangerous) and the entire city had been rebuilt and was thriving, and that's near 30 years ago when I saw it. The shadow on the walls, the pics of kids with radiation burns. Very moving. It's also been argued the firebombing of Tokyo and Dresden ended up being worse. What sooner stopped Japan was FDR's New Deal politicians and apparatchiks that the US sent over postwar, with the intention of punishing the country. They were particularly effective in using their policies of increased legislation and increased taxation (same ones we have in the West today...); economic activity slowed so much that by the late 1940's only a single train ran per week on the Tokyo-Osaka line. With the rise of the Communists in China after 1949, the US realised they needed to build a bulwark of Capitalism in the far east. All the New Dealers were promptly sacked, and legislation and taxation was slashed year after year throughout the 1950s. New markets were offered to Japanese product. Completely devastated by war, the Japanese took on board the teachings of W Edwards Deming, whose ideas of quality manufacturing and precise measurement of the process had been rejected by US Labour unions. The result of all this was that Japanese growth was spectacular ("The Japanese Miracle") and ironically that government tax intake was 10 times higher by the early 1960s after they had slashed taxes and regulations. The quality of their product then went on to displace US and British product throughout the world. This includes the Toyota legend... Very interesting Wretched. Local hospitals got taken out as well in Feb. For me, I'm really excited for the upcoming Hybrid Yaris. Little buzzbox runaround, that 20K price range that electric cars are nowhere near yet, and very very inexpensive motoring that keeps the kms off my V8s. Yaris made in Japan too, which I trust. Still love my 25yo Makita and Hitachi power tools which were made in Japan, they still work beautifuly. Hybrid RAV4 kicking a huge goal, so much so that dealers are offering loan cars until the 6 month wait is over for Cruiser buyers. Saw one parked next to our Terry this week, it's nearly the same size and 5L/100km. Hopefully the electric motor in the back of the AWD will be fulltime for snow driving.
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If I was buying a new car tomorrow, it would likely be a Toyota.
I had a Corolla before my Falcon, and sure, it wasn't fast, it didn't turn heads, but it was comfortable, nice to drive and I only ever had to fix one thing until it was written off in a hail storm. Sure, I'm a bit biased. My family had a lot of Fords when I was a kid, but it was the Bundera I fell in love with. (And the Sierra I have to admit) But it's not like any company in Australia is selling anything more exciting than Toyota is. Yeah, the new diesel engines have their issues and it's a big hit to the reliability reputation, but... what was this about a recall on Ford diesel engines just recently? And of course, Powershift? My next car won't be fresh from the showroom, but it will be a 4wd, and almost certainly a Toyota or a Nissan. (Okay, or maybe a Mitsubishi) |
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The new model Corolla looks fantastic, they've made a huge effort to bring it from bland to exciting, I guess they're probably trying to attract younger buyers back into the fold again:
https://www.caradvice.com.au/673558/...olla-review-2/ I've seen a few getting about in that really bright blue colour, like Nitro on the Falcons. ![]() If they had a turbo variant I'd be all over it like Cav on cake. That small car segment has really come leaps and bounds over the past decade. The only problem is I'm not sold on naturally aspirated engines these days under 5000cc plus or minus a t-spoon and 8 cylinders, if its under that it needs forced induction, no forced induction on small engines should be punishable by death in 2019 ![]() Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 02-11-2019 at 12:18 AM. |
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They were given access to the US market while they protected theirs, copied western makers designs. |
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Stop them doing what?
Their cars are well-built turds on wheels, over-priced to buggery, and bought only by dullards, imbeciles, and lazy-*** fleet operators. They have for many, many decades been the masters of Toyotaising, selling mass-produced gloop to the gormless masses. And so what? Good luck to them, wish I had shares in Toyota. They'll soon be over taken by Hyundai, who will in turn give way to Chinese. But not in my lifetime. |
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About the only thing missing is a full size truck like the Tacoma.
https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/20...e-trick-truck/ Like the f150, rhd versions are all ex factory.
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But they already build trucks don't need another ute.
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I was thinking more about the increasing ute sizes, with the Dodge Ram now sold here.
Anyhoo.... one other thing that could slow sales is to offend your buyers, like say dropping popular engines and being all pc with turbos on small capacity donks, as is rumoured for the next gen. https://www.carscoops.com/2019/06/to...ch-v8-engines/ Subaru boxer engined offroader, anyone? https://2020landcruiser.com/2019-toyota-land-cruiser/ Although the v6 or even hybrid options seem more likely. http://www.motoraty.com/blog/2019/06...p-v8-turbo-v6/
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