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Join Date: Aug 2008
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Heard on 9 news this morning NSW Govt. are trialing 40 vehicles fitted with speed alert / limiting devices they aparently use sat nav technology to determine if you are speeding and if so emit an audible warning & if you fail to slow down the unit slows down for you.
The story went on to say if the trial is successful they would require all new vehicles be fitted with said units reducing crashes and the need for speed cameras and speeding fines in general. Call me a sceptic but our state govt. are broke and I cant see them doing anything to cut the revenue raised from speeding either by cameras or any other method. Considering the govt. agree that many people are losing their licenses because the points and fine system for small offences are too high but it will take 6 moths to impliment changes so for the next 6 mths people will be paying a lot more for small infringements and losing 3 pts instead of the proposed 1, pigs will fly before the govt. puts peoples REAL safety above revenue raising. Would be a bugger overtaking though and your car goes into limp mode or in my case the unit would fail due to excessive use.
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Just proganda to fool the public in to thinking there serious about it . I would believe it if it did not go into limp mode and just issued you a fine in the mail.
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R u a Fogwit or a HIDiot?
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Another brainless policy put out there to appeal to the lowest common denominator without actually thinking about all the issues associated with our roads, drivers and cars.
Vote them OUT
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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Once they take control of your motor vehicle they are responsible for it not you, you are now a passenger.
The first fatal crash in which the gizmo contributed will end them forever. |
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So your saying the family could sue the government for damages?
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Also somone will find a way to bypass it.
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Location: Kalgoorlie
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We have IVMS (in vehicle monitoring system) in all the company owned utes. It alarms if you drive without putting you ID key into it. Is limited to 40kmph on site by use of GPS. Records everything!!!! even the weight of the driver and passenger (looks for loose objects on seats) and relays it via mobile or satellite back to work.
Some issues we have had. 1. Vehicle wont let drive exceed 40kmph offsite 2. Vehicle experienced significant lack of power whilst trying to overtake (110kmph highway) offsite. Drive was stuck behind a truck, tried to overtake doing roughly 115kmph, the ivms faulted and he was no longer in control of the vehicle. Slowed him down to 40kmph before giving back control. 3. Poeple accidentally pushing the panic button, police and ambulance attending -_- 4. etc IMO the best thing about them is they will alert emergency services if the vehicle rolls over, or experiences an impact over a certain force. Otherwise, they are bad bad bad. |
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Will never happen, the NSW treasury would have too much of a black hole to fill in revenue.
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Car Industry is not happy about this.
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Never happen
1. It would be political suicide 2. Implementing this in only 1 state won't work, has to be a national system and the rest of us don't want it either. 3. If the system plays up, it will cause, not prevent accidents. 4. All new cars will cost more as a result This idea is worse than the Vic Govt idea to have speedos that only go up to 130km/h, which would have required Aust. spec vehicles to be fitted with a new instrument cluster and recalibration of the speedo.
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Lake Macquarie, NSW
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NSW Roads Minister arrived to that Ministerial office directly from NRMA btw.
I'd keep the technology for serious driving offences, front fogs on in clear weather*, DD, crashes - that sort of thing, and only court imposed. . . . * = :-)
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They then stated that ALL heavy vehicles travelling in or through NSW had to be fitted with speed limiter regardless of the state they are registered in.
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I posted on this forum two years ago that this technology was in the pipeline. I got some negative return comments that it would NEVER happen. It will happen, make no mistake. Victoria is very close behind. But they are smarter. They are not going to limit the speed of cars. They have a device that tracks your movements and records any infringements. Then, once the device has a hot spot, or any cell phone tower, it will record your indiscretion and email the fine to you.... The fine will be in your inbox before you even get home. No loss of revenue here folks...... Yes, big brother is alive and well. And older cars will not be excused. it will be a part of your rego that a device be installed. Classic or concourse, they dont care. Install it or never drive it on the raod again. With the new association laws and these new laws on the horizon.... I might go and live in...... I dont know, somewhere free, like, North Korea???
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I have been entering Spencer St under the Flinders St railway overpass and seen the GPS clocking me at over 340kph. So as I enter this area, it is going to detect the speed and slow me down? That should be fun.
But, its ok, "In cases of emergency there is an override system whereby the driver ... can floor the accelerator to disable the safety device". Gee, that's going to be fun as well, hope you are not in front of my GT when the V8 gets a boot full. Btw, distorted readings happen all the time, particularly in the city and in wooded areas. These units were made for the likes of aircarft (who do tend to keep out of these sorts of areas). |
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honestly that would endanger motorists moreso.. with no control over the speed of the car it would be like staring at the road without doing anything.. that = sleepy eyes... AHH A TRUCK!
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I see it would be a good thing to install these things for motorists who have a bad driving record. The same as how I believe that if you have been done drink driving just once, you should need to have a breathalyzer installed in your car so that you can only start your car if you blow clean.
But not for every car, god, like somebody else has said, its political suicide! Aint gonna work. |
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It would prove to be an utter pain and disastrous. People WILL find a way around it if implemented, somehow.
No way in hell that I'd stand for this either. It's just another way to try and control without some serious thought into the whole idea. Diriving just won't be driving anymore and we'll all become passengers, as flappist said (in fpv84d's original post). Taking away the fun and our freedom, slowly but gradually. Keep these devices for those that have offended on repeated occasions and not for the entire public, as suggested by other posts. Be it either fpv84d's or Oubackjack's posted version. Human tolerance can only stretch so far before it breaks. We're not robots, yet the government are trying to manipulate us to become like them. |
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This is a bit like making smoking illegal.... The government will not do it due to the huge revenue black hole so I can't see them allowing this on the same principal
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1. Can you pull the GPS antenna cable... does that then mean you can speed because it doesn't know your position.
2. What if your GPS is slightly off, and thinks you are driving on a 50kph road parralell to the 100kph road you are actually on? 3. You are towing a heavy laden trailer, approching a traffic light. Light goes orange and you know you wouldn't be able to pull up safely. You put your foot down to do 5 to 10 over, but it want you to slow down - you will then have to run a red light???? This system can be very dangerous is the wrong situations, and is very flawed relying on GPS which it self is far from perfect, and the other flaw is the fact that it also relys on the driver actually recieving reception at all.
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I thought the driver can turn it off whenever he/she likes, via a switch?
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Come on guys, we all know it's not going to happen!
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