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well with our "sell it off, dig it up and ship it out" mentality what else is to be expected
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I hear ya! I've been looking to get a job in the mines for months. Got tickets for gantry cranes, endloaders, forklifts, doggers and bobcat - just don't have the "ultra heavy" industrial tickets that meet their requirements - or so that's what I've found!
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Nothing new really...
Before the QLD election there were discussions being held about increasing the number of semi-skilled workers on visa's to be used thoughout QLD in the mining sector..... Mining isnt the only industry which imports workers either.
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It shouldn't be a problem. Many of us here have no issue with outsourcing retail overseas (Internet shopping) because our local guys are just too expensive and ripping us off. Same people have no issues with outsourcing manufacturing overseas too so we can have cheap tellys and cars.
Why not fly in mines workers.
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/me shakes head at the insanity of this.
I certainly hope that those voters out there take notice of the decisions that the government that they have appointed to represent the interests of the "Australian voters" are making and vote accordingly. Can see this thread having a very short life due to political nature unfortunately. |
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*double banger*
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just the start of it me thinks...
RIO have this big 6000 people recruitment drive at the moment.... dang.. could only find 1500 suitable applicants..... justification for imports right there.. or just me having a tinfoil hat moment.. |
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Its been proven several times that these imported workers get less money then aussie workers (typically a pittance). The MINES pay people over $100,000 PA.... in order to attract people there. Yet now it seems it would prefer to sack aussies and put them on the dole because they can get cheap overseas labour. So who is at fault? US AUSSIES? for wanting a bucket load of money? The so-called mining boom has had a massive bad effect on things, namely rent is unaffordable to the average person in mining towns, housing is unaffordable to the average person in mining towns and the drop in tradies in city areas who cant afford to compete with $100,000 wages the mines fork out. Im guessing this is also the governments fault?
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Well I'm a qualified fitter and turner with fork/WP/doggers/confine space. Been doing it for 7years and I just ticked over 24. I don't mind hard work/long days, I grab every bit of over time I can, and coming up I put my hand up to do nightshift again 7day weeks. I tried mid last year applying for the mines to test the water/ see if i can get a better job and I couldn't even get an interview. I'm pretty sure it's not my resume as I got my brothers girlfriend who has a literature double degree. All I get back from the 3 different companies is "Thank you for your interest blah blah we are looking from people with mining experiences" how the hell you get experience... if every job add says you need it.
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The problem for me as stated in the article is the manufacturing industry in particular is circling the drain along with massive lay off's and im sure alot more to come.
Now why isnt the goverment investing in retraining/upskilling workers to help fill the skills shortages ?? As said this will be just the tip of the iceberg and will pave the way for other big miners such as BHP and RIO to follow the same path. Honestly it just infuriates me beyond belief ![]() ![]() |
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as long as australian people dont go on crippling rolling strikes like the teaches and nurses do . i think its fine , good luck to the imported workers . its crippling aussie awards and conditons of double pay for night shifts underground that bought this on , bout time we got some decend hard workers to help out our economy . those mine owners have been struggling big time of late .
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I have known several nurses over the years and had dealings with doctors and nurses back in the 90s when i was doing aero-medical... and im sorry to say your comments are pretty ignorant. Tell me something, a miner earning $100,000 or a nurse earning $60,000... which is more fair??? Id want to have a happy, well rested, well paid nurse/ doctor looking after me while ****ing blood all over their clean surgical ward, then one who has been on night duty 7 nights straight with minimal sleep looking after 20patients in a ward....
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i tried to get a job in mines also "must have experience" where from damn it!! got a semi licence etc etc.
i currently work in an industry that uses 'skilled labour' from oversea's. whats sad is that NONE of them have any experience and are put on **** kicker jobs yet earn more then what a standard australian doing similar jobs get as they are getting the skilled labour wage to cover it up.. (im not talkin about 1 or 2 more like half of the 1300 strong work force)
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And it's for things like not having a certain flavour of icecream. An extreme, but true example.
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perhaps we should be throwing the people that arrive here into the mines , there is enough work there for them and we'll save a fortune , why cant this be done it would be a great idea and give the nations hope for a better way of life . |
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What Aussie workers have been sacked in order to employ these O/S workers?
Also, under the 457 visa, workers have to be paid market rates so no cheap labor for Gina. I don't know about you blokes, but if I decided to work on a minesite, id' certainly want more $$'s to compensate being away from my family for extended periods etc Is that wrong?? Could it be that using O/S labour (who won't buy homes in mining towns and will likely live communally) will ease the rising cost of housing in mining towns? |
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persist with some of the contract mobs can pay off.. stay on them and be kean if it comes to making up numbers on a shutdown workers with experience soon goes out the window.. i got a start on a three day shutdown out of nowhere.. turned into ten years eating camp food... ![]() |
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edit: overtime/nightshift isnt a guarantee which is the problem haha |
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no offence , nothing against you , but when other people can fly here and work cheaper and then send thier money back home to look after thier families , whats wrong with that , i'm sure they probably wont be getting more than 2 days off in a row , and over all working lesser hours bringing down the combined houry rate as overtime is probably incorperated into your hourly rate , based on the hours you work over the 2 weeks on , ( not the 3 weeks) . this is where australian employers are being whacked hard . |
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big shifter.. big hammer.. can of crc is all you need in the mines..
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I thought GovCo had made changes to 457 to protect skilled jobs here?
Here's a snippet from April 2009.. "Senator Chris Evans, Minister for Immigration and Citizenship, announced on April 1, that changes to the 457 program provided industry with needed skills, to make sure that the program does not undermine local training and employment opportunities. This is no doubt due to the current economic situation in parts of Australia." Then, a complete about face (no doubt part of the mining tax "DEAL") Snippet from North West Star May 16th.. "IMMIGRATION officers will be present at the 2012 Xstrata Mount Isa Mining Expo from May 16-18 to provide information on visa programs and upcoming significant reforms to the skilled migration program. The changes being introduced on 1 July 2012 include a new online service connecting Australian employers with potential skilled migrants and streamlining of the pathway to permanent residence for people already working in Australia on temporary skilled 457 visas. From July 1, there will also be a fast-tracked pathway from the 457 visa to permanent residence under the employer-sponsored visa program, enabling skilled migrants to settle and work in regional and metropolitan Australia." And the Australian people just keep copping this crap!!.... Honestly, Lost for words.
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Thanks, yeh that seems to be the trick contacts or a short shutdown shift. My old man was a boiler maker for 20 odd years on construction and now heaps of his mates that are riggers or crane operators work in the mines. I need to have a chat to them and maybe drop a slab off to them haha |
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