Batteries for TDCi

cobrin · 28-11-2016, 02:16 PM

just got the stamped code from the battery 3BD022, the first two characters are all that's needed.

Manufactured:
3 = 2013
B = February

Dunno when it were put onto the vehicle but it didn't last long. I've a feeling this one will go the distance being 80Ah.

bundybear75 · 28-11-2016, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cobrin

just got the stamped code from the battery 3BD022, the first two characters are all that's needed.

Manufactured:
3 = 2013
B = February

Dunno when it were put onto the vehicle but it didn't last long. I've a feeling this one will go the distance being 80Ah.

3 years is pretty good for an Australian sourced battery. OEM stuff can last 5 years or more but the replacements never get much more than 2 years (which is generally the length of the warranty)

cobrin · 29-11-2016, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bundybear75

3 years is pretty good for an Australian sourced battery. OEM stuff can last 5 years or more but the replacements never get much more than 2 years (which is generally the length of the warranty)

I guess so, I didn't really take that into consideration, I'm use to nearly double that (4-5yrs+) but from a vehicle of another era with much lower needs (2 batts. in 13yrs). I'm happy it was sorted very quickly, was nice when I started it this morning. Though I do have to program the windows, global opening/closing works but not auto up manually on individual windows, so looks like I need to set the limits again.

rondeo · 29-11-2016, 02:02 PM

Anecdotal evidence shows Ca batteries (Supercharge, Century) get the car started and running for years, Ag(silver)/Ca batteries ditto.

The smart charge system reduces fuel consumption in accordance with basic laws of physics.

A DVM plugged into the cigar lighter while driving shows the charging voltage increasing under deceleration and reducing under acceleration.

The difference between Ca and Ag/Ca technologies under the smart charge system seems to be an open question. I suspect it's pretty small, and might not be worth the money.

BTW Cobrin why not use a backup supply while changing batteries?

cobrin · 29-11-2016, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rondeo

Anecdotal evidence shows Ca batteries (Supercharge, Century) get the car started and running for years, Ag(silver)/Ca batteries ditto.

The smart charge system reduces fuel consumption in accordance with basic laws of physics.

A DVM plugged into the cigar lighter while driving shows the charging voltage increasing under deceleration and reducing under acceleration.

The difference between Ca and Ag/Ca technologies under the smart charge system seems to be an open question. I suspect it's pretty small, and might not be worth the money.

BTW Cobrin why not use a backup supply while changing batteries?

Fully agree rondeo.

I did use a battery saver 9V battery (square smoke alarm type to be exact) connected it to the aux power outlet aka 'cig lighter port', it was indicating power (has an LED was bright). Before I used the battery it was measured 9.9xV so full capacity, I've had this adaptor+inc battery since Jan unopened knowing this was the next issue.

It did save the Radio stations and BT paired phones but looks like nothing else was saved. I just checked the 9V battery again and it's 9.92V and in the adaptor 9.72V so certainly enough. If I ever get the chance again I could try alligator clips on the end of the lead instead of the cig adaptor and directly attach it to the Battery leads but I doubt I'll be doing that for some time to come.

rondeo · 29-11-2016, 07:56 PM

I used a 12v sealed battery connected on the main terminals. Doesn't matter much I guess.

NZ XR6 · 29-11-2016, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rondeo

I used a 12v sealed battery connected on the main terminals. Doesn't matter much I guess.

I did the same and didn't lose any settings. I think that's the safest way to do it as the Aux power outlets are switched.

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cobrin · 21-01-2020, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cobrin

I guess so, I didn't really take that into consideration, I'm use to nearly double that (4-5yrs+) but from a vehicle of another era with much lower needs (2 batts. in 13yrs). I'm happy it was sorted very quickly, was nice when I started it this morning. Though I do have to program the windows, global opening/closing works but not auto up manually on individual windows, so looks like I need to set the limits again.

well well well, it failed to start today battery must have been low, it cranked too slow to even start. I've had a replacement here for two days on maintenance mode cause I've been doing to some work on the cars exterior, looking great I might add. A quick swap and it's cranking like a champ and starts up in two chugs so to speak.

The missus has neglected the battery and has been using the car with the engine off every day (phone calls over bt after shut down, music ect.) coupled with leaving the keys in the vehicle overnight (multiple times) boot not fully shut multiple times only to find out the following morning the car clicks and doesn't have enough charge to crank, sure it gets a charge up and all is good but the first time it went really low it's never been the same and there's only so much a monthly charge can do or save. Two or three days of nil use and it wouldn't start.

As I've been cleaning and protecting the car over the last two days it didn't go well today. So in went the battery. Oh yeah WTF! is going on with the cost of batteries these days?

The same replacement from the same place of purchase (and others mind you) is $309-330 greedy bastards...

Century Heavy Duty DIN75LMF 80Ah 730cca $254 from SuperCheap Auto bought 27-11-2016 [24MTH warranty]
It is 1151 days from the old battery.
Or 3 years, 1 month, 26 days.
Or 37 month, 26 days.

This is the shortest battery service life I've had in all my driving history but it's the missus that attributes to this shortened result so I'm not completely annoyed. It's made over it's warranty period which is a bit weak if you ask me. Any who I'm not buying a $300 battery, my wife found the replacement from the last place you'd think to buy a battery from. It's not a 80Ah battery she found a 95Ah 810CCA replacement but it were to high to fit in the battery box coming in @ 224mm height. The 80Ah battery also were ~190-205mm height and didn't want to chance it.

The winner with 305x175x175 was:
Exide Extreme DIN66MF 66Ah 650CCA $175 (wow!!!)
[36MTH extended warranty]

And from all places it was from Bunnings, all because several months ago I noticed the tool shop had a rack of them and I made mention to the missus how weird or that I didn't know they even sold car batteries at bunnings. She's laughing now as I type this, good on ya love...

so that's a nice savings to keep.

Taken today and looking really shiny:

bundybear75 · 21-01-2020, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cobrin

well well well, it failed to start today battery must have been low, it cranked too slow to even start. I've had a replacement here for two days on maintenance mode cause I've been doing to some work on the cars exterior, looking great I might add. A quick swap and it's cranking like a champ and starts up in two chugs so to speak.

The missus has neglected the battery and has been using the car with the engine off every day (phone calls over bt after shut down, music ect.) coupled with leaving the keys in the vehicle overnight (multiple times) boot not fully shut multiple times only to find out the following morning the car clicks and doesn't have enough charge to crank, sure it gets a charge up and all is good but the first time it went really low it's never been the same and there's only so much a monthly charge can do or save. Two or three days of nil use and it wouldn't start.

As I've been cleaning and protecting the car over the last two days it didn't go well today. So in went the battery. Oh yeah WTF! is going on with the cost of batteries these days?

The same replacement from the same place of purchase (and others mind you) is $309-330 greedy bastards...

Century Heavy Duty DIN75LMF 80Ah 730cca $254 from SuperCheap Auto bought 27-11-2016 [24MTH warranty]
It is 1151 days from the old battery.
Or 3 years, 1 month, 26 days.
Or 37 month, 26 days.

This is the shortest battery service life I've had in all my driving history but it's the missus that attributes to this shortened result so I'm not completely annoyed. It's made over it's warranty period which is a bit weak if you ask me. Any who I'm not buying a $300 battery, my wife found the replacement from the last place you'd think to buy a battery from. It's not a 80Ah battery she found a 95Ah 810CCA replacement but it were to high to fit in the battery box coming in @ 224mm height. The 80Ah battery also were ~190-205mm height and didn't want to chance it.

The winner with 305x175x175 was:
Exide Extreme DIN66MF 66Ah 650CCA $175 (wow!!!)
[36MTH extended warranty]

And from all places it was from Bunnings, all because several months ago I noticed the tool shop had a rack of them and I made mention to the missus how weird or that I didn't know they even sold car batteries at bunnings. She's laughing now as I type this, good on ya love...

so that's a nice savings to keep.

Taken today and looking really shiny:
image

Funny, I noticed batteries at my local Bunnings the other morning. I didn't stop to look at the prices as I assumed they would be stupid, but I will have another look. My kids paddock basher needs a new battery so this might be the go to.....

manchu · 22-01-2020, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by cobrin

The winner with 305x175x175 was:
Exide Extreme DIN66MF 66Ah 650CCA $175 (wow!!!)
[36MTH extended warranty]

And from all places it was from Bunnings,

I noticed batteries last time I was at Bunnings, including one that looked like it might just work for the mondeo but was't sure. . Thanks for the details...that's what I'll be buying IF I need to replace my 8yr old battery. It's given me a few low battery warnings over recent months but keeps on kicking

I say IF because my mondeo is off for insurance assessment tomorrow after being hammered by hail on Sunday.

thebigd · 22-01-2020, 08:39 PM

Sorry to hear about the hail damage manchu.
This pic was from a 2012 hail storm in Brisbane. My company car was just six weeks old at the time. The claim on my house was nearly $60K.

manchu · 04-02-2020, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by cobrin

The winner with 305x175x175 was:
Exide Extreme DIN66MF 66Ah 650CCA $175 (wow!!!)
[36MTH extended warranty]

the frequency of my low batt warnings is increasing so will get a new one soon.

current battery is DIN77 so a little concerned going for DIN66. Hows it going cobrin?

cobrin · 04-02-2020, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by manchu

Hows it going cobrin?

It's going great, I do about 8 starts a day if nothing is happening and it's starting with gusto. The old battery is indicating low water (looks like is has done for some time) and it's never recovered. I'm using it for a motorcycle custom build battery supply seeing as it's battery is cactus. It'll hang in there for the time being.