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Old 06-04-2023, 10:39 PM   #1
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Little bit of BS trivia for everyone. Call it an Easter gift for you.

The fuel level is measured by a simple float on the end of a metal arm as in this pic.



The arm runs down the outer passenger side of the tank and the float is the round thing at the end.

Now, if you try to remove the fuel pump with 1/2 a tank or more of fuel, fuel will come flooding out that hole. As you can see, a considerable part of the tank is above the level of the fuel pump. At least 1/3 of the capacity, probably close to 1/2.

So if any level of fuel greater than 1/2 a tank fills the lower chamber to the brim, which means the float is jammed against the roof of the tank, how does the gauge manage to display a lowering level of fuel when the tank is, say, completely full. The float is jammed hard against the top, so it wont move until the tank is 1/2 full or less.

My only conclusion is the cluster guesses how much fuel is in the tank for anything over 1/2. Calculates the decreasing level based on fuel injected.

But back on topic... I found these old pics I borrowed from someone on the net ages ago.

There was a failure in the join around this white plastic bit.



Which resulted in fuel leaking out when the tank was full. But only when the tank was full.



As I said, hopefully not your problem.
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Old 07-04-2023, 11:24 AM   #2
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Little bit of BS trivia for everyone. Call it an Easter gift for you.

The fuel level is measured by a simple float on the end of a metal arm as in this pic.

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The arm runs down the outer passenger side of the tank and the float is the round thing at the end.

Now, if you try to remove the fuel pump with 1/2 a tank or more of fuel, fuel will come flooding out that hole. As you can see, a considerable part of the tank is above the level of the fuel pump. At least 1/3 of the capacity, probably close to 1/2.

So if any level of fuel greater than 1/2 a tank fills the lower chamber to the brim, which means the float is jammed against the roof of the tank, how does the gauge manage to display a lowering level of fuel when the tank is, say, completely full. The float is jammed hard against the top, so it wont move until the tank is 1/2 full or less.

My only conclusion is the cluster guesses how much fuel is in the tank for anything over 1/2. Calculates the decreasing level based on fuel injected.

But back on topic... I found these old pics I borrowed from someone on the net ages ago.

There was a failure in the join around this white plastic bit.

image

Which resulted in fuel leaking out when the tank was full. But only when the tank was full.

image

As I said, hopefully not your problem.
Thanks again Arm. Appreciated.
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Old 07-04-2023, 05:40 PM   #3
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My only conclusion is the cluster guesses how much fuel is in the tank for anything over 1/2. Calculates the decreasing level based on fuel injected.
Just thinking about this, there must be some other mechanism to read the fuel level above 50%. If the cluster is guessing, then it won't know if you filled it up 51% or 100%. I know if I dump 75% into the tank, the gauge will read 3/4.

I do know if you fill it right up to the filler neck, the gauge will show full for a much longer period of time, obviously because there is no "sensor" on the neck, so there must be something at the top of the tank to give another reading?
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Old 29-10-2023, 09:31 AM   #4
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Hi,

My BF just did the same thing, petrol smell, after full tank, so all this info very helpful, petrol smell gone at about 1/2 tank - I don't drive the BF daily, so have time to follow all the steps .
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