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Old 18-01-2011, 10:25 PM   #1
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Default AU3 XR8 220kW SIGNATURE ENGINE

g'day all would like some help to varify a N.O.S. crate engine that i have, i'm pretty certain its correct but would like some help to varify please any help would be greatfully appreciated - thanx

engine builder ADAM DOYLE, GT40P HEADS modified with Yella Terra gear date stamped july 02, didnt come with the Tickford throttle body was souvenired by a Ford employee

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Old 18-01-2011, 11:08 PM   #2
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I havent heard of that engine builder before but that doesnt mean it's not legit.

What aspect of it are you trying to confirm?
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July 02 would be last of the AU3 XR8s - probably genuine then.
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Old 19-01-2011, 02:36 AM   #4
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LOL JC your the reason why i'm trying to varify this engine, some time back you quoted that my engine would likely to be a 200kW and not a 220kW.

do 200kW have GT40P heads ?

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Old 19-01-2011, 09:27 AM   #5
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LOL JC your the reason why i'm trying to varify this engine, some time back you quoted that my engine would likely to be a 200kW and not a 220kW.

do 200kW have GT40P heads ?
Yes they do. AUIII sedans are 220kw models.
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Old 19-01-2011, 10:23 AM   #6
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Yes they do. AUIII sedans are 220kw models.
I'll 2nd the above as motors not models hehe.....
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Old 19-01-2011, 11:42 AM   #7
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Is this the one that's been on ebay for $16k?
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What if it was a ute engine...



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Old 19-01-2011, 01:25 PM   #9
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yup thats the one - didnt sell it, had some stupid offers and wasnt pre-pared to give it away decided to keep it will post pics of it

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Old 19-01-2011, 01:29 PM   #10
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was the 200kW GT40P heads modified with Yella Tera bitz.

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was the 200kW GT40P heads modified with Yella Tera bitz.
no, the GT40P's on the 200's were not modified - just bolted on.
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here's som pics of the crater ive made a couple of errors in my opening post to this thread, the engine builder is Sam Doyle and the date stamp is June 02

















25/06/2002















07/12/2000



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LOL JC your the reason why i'm trying to varify this engine, some time back you quoted that my engine would likely to be a 200kW and not a 220kW.

do 200kW have GT40P heads ?
I would now change that and say it's more likely to be a 220, however, as the 200s were going into utes right until the end of the run (Pursuit ute excepted), it's hard to be sure. Have you run the engine number past Ford? They should be able to tell you for sure.

Even the 200s did get RRs, but they would have been 1.6 ratio, whereas the 220s got 1.72 ratio. Though the wrong rcokers have been found on even T3 motors!

But the 220 Auto sticker (ID 320 GA) is probably the biggest clue as to what this is and what it was destined for.
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Old 20-01-2011, 12:14 AM   #15
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I would now change that and say it's more likely to be a 220, however, as the 200s were going into utes right until the end of the run (Pursuit ute excepted), it's hard to be sure. Have you run the engine number past Ford? They should be able to tell you for sure.

Even the 200s did get RRs, but they would have been 1.6 ratio, whereas the 220s got 1.72 ratio. Though the wrong rcokers have been found on even T3 motors!

But the 220 Auto sticker (ID 320 GA) is probably the biggest clue as to what this is and what it was destined for.
this was purchased from FoMoCo 2004/5 they had 5 of them to be cleared, all 5 were un-stamped never installed to vehicles FoMoCO at the time advised they were AU3 XR8 Signatures - we only purchased 1

wouldn't know where to start at Ford as i have no contacts anymore, thats why im hoping here can help
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Is there any way you can check the roller rocker ratios? If they're 1.72, then it's highly likely they're the 220 engine.
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Is there any way you can check the roller rocker ratios? If they're 1.72, then it's highly likely they're the 220 engine.
how would i do that, im only a partsologist with basic mechanical skills LOL
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how would i do that, im only a partsologist with basic mechanical skills LOL
Yeh, dunno!

Here are the engine specs for the 220 from the FPV site (http://www.fpv.com.au/theheritage/fa...onxr8-220.aspx):

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AUII XR8 220kW: Windsor 5-litre V8, OHV, electronic multi-point fuel injection, 9.4:1 compression, reworked Explorer GT40P cast iron crossflow heads, roller rockers, special camshaft, cold air intake, low restriction twin exhaust system, 70 mm throttle body, oil cooler, match-ported inlet manifolds,upgraded fuel pressure regulator, 220 kW@5250rpm, 435Nm@4,000rpm.
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thanx JC i'll use this info to do some checking with what i've got here, so these engines were used in AUII & III XR8's. Would they have used them in utes as well you reckon ?
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found some info on a quik id of yella terra rockers used for 200's & 220's - 1.6 has a circle with a # 6 with in the circle & 1.72's have the circle with no number with in.
Info from Yella Terra (03) 9555 5522

so it's likely this engine has all the right signs to be a 220kW
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see the orange paper decal (this orange decal is also on the oil filter and RH R/Cover at the rear) 1D320BA and maybe re-engineered to a 1D320GA as to the purple/mauve decal, could that be the engine ID, like how the XW XY XA D block GT engines had them example CK617J1 ?
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see the orange paper decal (this orange decal is also on the oil filter and RH R/Cover at the rear) 1D320BA and maybe re-engineered to a 1D320GA as to the purple/mauve decal, could that be the engine ID, like how the XW XY XA D block GT engines had them example CK617J1 ?


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Ive got the same sticker JM 1D320BA code on my AU11 (Nov 01) "FULLY OPTIONED AU111 XR8 UTE.......
Is that cool ??
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Yes they do. AUIII sedans are 220kw models.
I got this exact sticker on my AU11 Nov 01, Are you starting to love me a little bit ??
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AU3 Utes only ever got the 200kw motor......Pursuit ute excepted
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