2022 Ranger and Everest ideas from CarExpert

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

I answered this about 5 posts ago. Pretty sure its made in the bridgend plant in the uk.

And i reckon they would have sold bugger all in the f series. Would have been a pretty rare engine option.

For some background, in the US this last week petrol has averaged 83c/L and diesel 86c/L and while large V8's and turbo 6's rule their ute/truck market any benefit of improved economy from a diesel is not such a big deal when fuel costs are so much lower than here.
And on some F-150 models the V8 is a $800 option while the
V6 3.5L Ecoboost is a $1400 option, and the
V6 3.0L V6 diesel Power stroke is a $3800 option and the
Hybrid Power boost is $3300 extra.

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

For some background, in the US this last week petrol has averaged 83c/L and diesel 86c/L and while large V8's and turbo 6's rule their ute/truck market any benefit of improved economy from a diesel is not such a big deal when fuel costs are so much lower than here.
And on some F-150 models the V8 is a $800 option while the
V6 3.5L Ecoboost is a $1400 option, and the
V6 3.0L V6 diesel Power stroke is a $3800 option and the
Hybrid Power boost is $3300 extra.

lets see what price tag Ford Australia give the Power stroke Ranger

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

I answered this about 5 posts ago. Pretty sure its made in the bridgend plant in the uk.

And i reckon they would have sold bugger all in the f series. Would have been a pretty rare engine option.

Dagenham, UK.
Currently, have 3,000 unsold at dealerships in the US, there’s like 20,000 EB V6 and V8s.
Ford made the things but then made damn sure buyers never heard about them.
Americans are addicted to horsepower, the 3.0 diesel made no sense in US market.

[Franco Cozzo]

Americans hate diesel engines so no surprise there that the light duty models like RAM/Silverado 1500 and F150 sell bugger all diesels in comparison to their unleaded equivalents.

I don't think the Silverado 1500 even has a diesel option.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Americans hate diesel engines so no surprise there that the light duty models like RAM/Silverado 1500 and F150 sell bugger all diesels in comparison to their unleaded equivalents.

I don't think the Silverado 1500 even has a diesel option.

Yes it does, GM built a brand new alloy block 3.0 I-6, press raved over it 31 mpg highway
but you guessed it, SFA buy it…..

Internet pressed Ford and GM Ford diesels in F150 and Silverado 1500, had to be a winner…..
Unfortunately, the real world of vehicle sales is a very different place, buyers like gasoline engines.

[Burnout]

Once EV road tax hits the market & the costs of a re-charge, we'll see the honesty of the ev-V-ice market then.
At the moment in this country Coal fired power and ice transport is propping up ev & renewable power by a huge margin.
Then, wait another 20yrs and add the replacement cost of renewable infrastructure to the costs, not least of which the cost of disposal of billions of tons of degraded ev junk almost none of which has been discussed in any meaningful way.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by Burnout

Once EV road tax hits the market & the costs of a re-charge, we'll see the honesty of the ev-V-ice market then.
At the moment in this country Coal fired power and ice transport is propping up ev & renewable power by a huge margin.
Then, wait another 20yrs and add the replacement cost of renewable infrastructure to the costs, not least of which the cost of disposal of billions of tons of degraded ev junk almost none of which has been discussed in any meaningful way.

Literally everything you have just said has been discussed and disproven on numerous threads in this forum. Such a poorly researched comment.

But this has nothing to do with the Ranger/Everest Ideas and I don't want a holiday for not staying on topic.

[naddis01]

The turbos are different between PX and PXII.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by naddis01

The turbos are different between PX and PXII.

And then, the Americanised version of 3.2 in their Transit, had much better NOX
with little or no loss of power and torque (US Transit power figures rated like Super Duty).

V6 Powerstroke having no other applications only exists because of Ranger and Everest.
Does that give the T6 team freedom to request single and twin turbo versions?

[CyberWasp]

Seeing they are sharing the platform with VW could they have used their Diesel from the Amarok?
Isn't it a de-tuned version from the higher end cars in their companies fleet?
Way more potential for 'Raptor' like performance.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by CyberWasp

Seeing they are sharing the platform with VW could they have used their Diesel from the Amarok?

Using a VW diesel after dieselgate is like putting a giant s**t stain on your product…..
$30 billion loss over dieselgate is the reason why Ford is making Transits and Rangers for VW….

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by CyberWasp

Seeing they are sharing the platform with VW could they have used their Diesel from the Amarok?
Isn't it a de-tuned version from the higher end cars in their companies fleet?
Way more potential for 'Raptor' like performance.

Not really sharing the platform. Ford are doing just about the whole program, and even building them alongside ranger. The vw will just be mildly different to look at.

VW are getting out of ICE rather quickly. That v6 will be gone soon enough. Not viable to use it going forward.

[Bossxr8]

https://fordauthority.com/2021/07/20...h-touchscreen/

That’s huge.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

https://fordauthority.com/2021/07/20...h-touchscreen/

That’s huge.

Sync 4. It was always going to be updated.

Not a big fan of the mechanical volume control dial in the middle of the screen but its not a deal breaker either.

[FlipXW]

Those VAG 3.0 V6 diesels are a neat bit of kit though. A mate has an Audi SQ5 and seat of pants feels as quick as a stock fg turbo. Doesn’t sound or feel like a diesel either thats for sure. Hopefully the powerstroke can offer something similar. Very keen on a new Everest but will all depend on what’s offered under the hood. After years and years of ownership I’m tired of slow diesel 4x4’s.
I still want another 4x4 in either a dual cab or a wagon but this time Im hanging out for something that performs much better than the norm.

[XR Martin]

If people didn't want more power then how would you explain such a large aftermarket tuning market?

[Falcon SXR8]

Originally Posted by XR Martin

If people didn't want more power then how would you explain such a large aftermarket tuning market?

I wouldnt think there is a large percentage of them getting tuned, they sell thousands a month, most would stay stock and doodle around the city. Some get tuned and that gets them going a lot better. Brothers got a tune only dmax it makes 200hp and 500ish nm to the wheels, it moves out very well. I certainly wouldnt want more in a crappy handaling ute.

Each to there own though

[au2000]

I’m not much of a twin cab fan admittedly but even now as I’m beginning to plan to move into the segment in the next 4 years or so I’ll admit the only one I’m thinking of is the RAM.

[FPV8U]

There are plenty of potential duel cab buyers out there that aren’t sold on pure work horse powertrains, I don’t really tow much if at all, our Territory has had something bigger than a 6x4 trailer behind it once in the last 5 years.

While diesel is efficient it’s also as boring as it comes, even the 3L V6 diesel after watching reviews for F150 will likely be a great engine for those that use these things are work utes and tow vehicles all the time there are those of us out there that would enjoy something that a little more enjoyable, the 2.7L EB would be great for this while maintaining good economy.

Im likely going to be looking for a Duel Cab 4x4 in about 12 months and an XLT level Ranger with EB would tick a lot of boxes for me while maintaining the ability to tow if required.

[Vesper Martini]

From my own experience high Torque diesels keep them at low RPM where they should be.
This vastly improves the way they drive & feel, and I believe contributes to using less fuel.

[nibble]

I'm also a potential buyer eagerly waiting on the new Ranger. Not interested in a diesel, want petrol. Ideally a long stroke V8. Surely Ford could do something with the Coyote engine??

[CyberWasp]

Here is what Ford should have built the Raptor to be in the 1st place.
It sounds Bad A$$.
If people are willing to pay the big $$$ to have one converted then there is a market for it from factory.


V8 Ranger Raptor 1st Test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6TLN9r0mDI&t=571s

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by CyberWasp

Here is what Ford should have built the Raptor to be in the 1st place.
It sounds Bad A$$.
If people are willing to pay the big $$$ to have one converted then there is a market for it from factory.


V8 Ranger Raptor 1st Test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6TLN9r0mDI&t=571s

That's amazing. I'd sign up for that. If it was 5 figures.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by CyberWasp

Here is what Ford should have built the Raptor to be in the 1st place.
It sounds Bad A$$.
If people are willing to pay the big $$$ to have one converted then there is a market for it from factory.


V8 Ranger Raptor 1st Test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6TLN9r0mDI&t=571s

Is that real? Sounds like the audio has been laced onto the video. Sound is too clear for a drive by.

[jpd80]

What Ford fan doesn’t brag about the type of V8 in the conversion let alone show it?

[CyberWasp]

The question I have been asking is in how much Bronco DNA is coming to the Everest and if it will have 35's as a wheel option.

[jpd80]

3.0 Powerstroke weight = 514 lbs
3.2 I-5 Diesel weight = 501 lbs

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by jpd80

3.0 Powerstroke weight = 514 lbs
3.2 I-5 Diesel weight = 501 lbs

Not much in it. The 3.2 is a cast iron block, what is the powerstroke? Compacted graphite iron?

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Not much in it. The 3.2 is a cast iron block, what is the powerstroke? Compacted graphite iron?

Correct, the weight difference is nothing compared to the extra power and smoothness.
Ford has a massive opportunity here to put Ranger and Everest over the top.

[FlipXW]

https://youtu.be/bdjxBos7XKY Looks pretty real to me.