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Old 21-05-2020, 02:38 PM   #1
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Ford is going hybrid in its quest to take down the all-conquering Toyota HiLux.

Confidential plans about the 2022 Ford Ranger and Everest have leaked ahead of a drip-feed of information about the new models, which kicks off later this year.

The plans, exclusively obtained by CarExpert, detail the range of drivetrains and offer a breakdown of next-generation Ranger and Everest models to be offered by Ford, including plug-in hybrid variants of both the dual-cab ute and off-road SUV.
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Old 21-05-2020, 03:11 PM   #2
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Not surprised at all as I think you will see all the car manufacturers heading in this direction with 4wd/suv/utes etc, long overdue imo.
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Both look great if the renders are correct. Huge improvement to the look of the Everest rear end. Engine options sound exciting too.
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if that render is the new Everest..... Im sold ,.... that looks tough as and be finally something in the Ford Range id be interested in
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That Everest Looks a bit Ranger Rover(ish) at first Glance.

Also Means there's No chance of a Factory Backed F150 coming Here... IMHO
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Pic from last year...
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all i want to know is if the lower dash will be far enough away from my knee that i don't bash into it over every bump
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I wonder if Everest's body will follow that squarer styling or something else in between..
I do like the idea of Ranger and Everest having a squarer profile.

The power and torque specs on the 2.3 EB Hybrid seem a bit too precise to be made up
as is the combined fuel economy figure of 3.0 l\100 km, is this a leak or did someone
make some well informed guesses?

Reading some of the comments on the website, some people still think that VW will be
providing the V6 diesel.....it's hard to convince some people that Ranger and Everest
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Damn that front styling looks TOUGH!
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An electric 4WD and SUV. I wonder how they will cope wading in 800mm of water? What is the life cycle of the batteries, replacement cost and where will the batteries be disposed at the end of their life? The local tip?
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V6 diesel...nice!
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Reading some of the comments on the website, some people still think that VW will be
providing the V6 diesel.....it's hard to convince some people that Ranger and Everest
are all Ford.
Isn't it the same diesel that Land Rover and Jag have been using for years?
The same one the Territory should have been fitted with.
The same one that usually sees Disco 4 & RR Sport for sale at half the market value with buggered cranks...
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Isn't it the same diesel that Land Rover and Jag have been using for years?
The same one the Territory should have been fitted with.
The same one that usually sees Disco 4 & RR Sport for sale at half the market value with buggered cranks...
Ford did some changes to the Lion V6 when they put it into the F150
but now the diesel is being quietly dropped from the range. (lack of interest)

Just on buggered cranks, I don't recall that being a major issue in the diesel Territory,
perhaps owners have experiences they can share...

The lion V6s and V8s were actually built by Ford and sold to J/LR.

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I'll eat my hat if the Everest looks that good. Actually I'll just buy one.

Those tyres look like 33's or bigger. I'm sure for production they will skip leg day and sell it with the 30's which is standard size on most other 4x4's
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Everest is a terrible car/truck/SUV.

This new one looks ok though if comes outs like it.
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Any indication on the US Ranger? Not too long ago the rumour was both the diesel V6 and 2.7 Ecoboost V6 were going to be options
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An electric 4WD and SUV. I wonder how they will cope wading in 800mm of water? What is the life cycle of the batteries, replacement cost and where will the batteries be disposed at the end of their life? The local tip?
Doesn't really matter, the people who can afford these just flip them every 3 years for the new fancy model. Its the second hand buyers who have to worry about that
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Ford did some changes to the Lion V6 when they put it into the F150
but now the diesel is being quietly dropped from the range. (lack of interest)

Just on buggered cranks, I don't recall that being a major issue in the diesel Territory,
perhaps owners have experiences they can share...

The lion V6s and V8s were actually built by Ford and sold to J/LR.
I've only seen D4s with the 3.0 V6 been sold for scrap value because they're in need of a new engine.
I can't say I seen any 2.7 powered D3s (or Territory) with the same issue.
Thats only my observation of regularly checking out the used market for Land Rovers but there are quite a few documented cases of failed 3.0 V6 on google.
These engines are over ten yeas old now so I guess any manufacturing or design faults will have been dealt to.
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If a 3L Land rover does an engine or even a Turbo you need to pull the body off the chassis to fix.
Can't imagine too many workshops, let alone owners willing to do that on something so heavily depreciated.
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These both “look the goods“, if the renders and info are accurate.
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if that render is the new Everest..... Im sold ,.... that looks tough as and be finally something in the Ford Range id be interested in
Its just the big tyres that make it look tough, grab a current Wildtrack & fit big feet & they look the goods, I'm yet to see an Everest kitted out the same way.
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I like the looks and the engines on offer. They look tough. Means when the time comes, I may look at the previous models on offer at hopefully a discounted rate.
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Its just the big tyres that make it look tough, grab a current Wildtrack & fit big feet & they look the goods, I'm yet to see an Everest kitted out the same way.
There's one near my house fitted with off road mods and big tyres. From the front it looks pretty tough, then you look from the back and that tough image is shattered.
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Its just the big tyres that make it look tough, grab a current Wildtrack & fit big feet & they look the goods, I'm yet to see an Everest kitted out the same way.
That one looks like it’s something called Wildtrak X
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There's one near my house fitted with off road mods and big tyres. From the front it looks pretty tough, then you look from the back and that tough image is shattered.
yeah not a fan of the current rear, Prados dont look right without the spare on the door either.

Trailblazer is the worst though - reminds me of that car off Waynes World
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I've only seen D4s with the 3.0 V6 been sold for scrap value because they're in need of a new engine.
I can't say I seen any 2.7 powered D3s (or Territory) with the same issue.
Thats only my observation of regularly checking out the used market for Land Rovers but there are quite a few documented cases of failed 3.0 V6 on google.
These engines are over ten yeas old now so I guess any manufacturing or design faults will have been dealt to.
The 3 litre was beefed up for F series use. So it's not the same internally as the one used by JLR.

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Can't imagine too many workshops, let alone owners willing to do that on something so heavily depreciated.
That's only because the 3 litre was incompatible with the double chassis they used for D4, as it had to use that chassis with the different 3 litre. It wasn't an issue with the 2.7. More likely a case of not being able to re-design the chassis to fit it. For an all new model it wouldn't be an issue, cause you can design around it.
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If those CGIs are close to what Ford is planning to deliver, their engineering and styling team are to be applauded,
add in a RHD Bronco and Ford would have a triple header win,, all Ford need to do is have faith in their own products.
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yeah not a fan of the current rear, Prados dont look right without the spare on the door either.

Trailblazer is the worst though - reminds me of that car off Waynes World
Surely the pajero sport with its 'bleeding eyes' tail lights is the worst.
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If those CGIs are close to what Ford is planning to deliver, their engineering and styling team are to be applauded,
add in a RHD Bronco and Ford would have a triple header win,, all Ford need to do is have faith in their own products.
Problem is these renders have used the image of the leaked clay, which might not even be the one they have used (cause i think they do a few proposals and choose 1 to move forward on), and stuck bits from other ford vehicles on to finish it off. It has the current US Ranger tailgate and taillights for example, while the Everest has the rear end from one of the US suvs. Maybe Expedition or Lincoln Navigator?

I hope they do look like that though. They are tough looking for sure.
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Surely the pajero sport with its 'bleeding eyes' tail lights is the worst.
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