Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers - Page 6

gtxxr6 · 20-07-2014, 09:23 PM

sacked the car today all round.. looks great but handling performance definatley drops off which brett told me it would. still drives very nice even through the city, very comfortable still just a fair amount of driveline vibration etc and far less grip than when it was at ideal height. will leave it for now til i go to the drags and then ill probably keep it high. its just so much nicer to drive when its higher

furiousgibbon · 21-07-2014, 09:55 PM

drove the F6 in the McRae Rallysprint yesterday, I did a bit of testing in the morning (track day session) and ended up with the coilovers set 8/10 front and 7/10 rear. With better tyres I could have gone firmer, but this felt good. It would have been great to feel the difference between stock suspension and the Shockworks kit, but I'm fairly certain trying this with the stock suspension would have been a disaster. I found the oversteer to be very controllable (considering I've never driven RWD on track before), and the handling was predictable and composed for an 1800kg beast with crap tyres (Sport Maxx).

No mods other than the coilovers and a Herrod intake.

Fastest run: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSzFrM7m5B4
Oversteer moments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lJe6Hj0FqQ

dl86 · 23-07-2014, 12:20 AM

Good control there in the top video.

I remember those days of driving with the Dunlops LOL! That's hilarious.

I can just go flat stick into almost anything now and not worry about that happening with the Hankook RS3 285's on the back. I gotta be doing something REALLY stupid to loose it and even then the rear doesn't kick out anywhere near as much.

flux · 31-07-2014, 05:36 PM

Anyone recommend a place in Sydney to get my fg 335 gt fitted out with a set of shockworks coilovers?

Shockworks · 31-07-2014, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by flux

Anyone recommend a place in Sydney to get my fg 335 gt fitted out with a set of shockworks coilovers?

We use Dave at Eastcoast suspension who does a great job with the install and alignments. You can call Dave on 02 95318966.

flux · 01-08-2014, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Shockworks

We use Dave at Eastcoast suspension who does a great job with the install and alignment. You can call Dave on 02 95318966.

Anyone in Nth or West Sydney? Unfortunately I'm about as far away as you can get from them and still be in Sydney and the gt is my daily...

Grum · 01-08-2014, 11:03 PM

Dave is worth the drive and the job is worth being done right.

dl86 · 06-08-2014, 11:33 PM

Here is a video of me running 1m 13.0s at Wakefield Park. First time on a race track.

Second lap there is my quickest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShYr...jhQcxg9YTHO6dQ

I will probably go a fair bit quicker next time with -3 camber on the fronts as my outside edges are heavily worn from running only -0.5 camber. Turn in at speed was a big issue for me aka under steer as I just couldn't get enough rubber on the ground on the front due to the rubbish front camber. Also will have 376rwkw instead of 296rwkw under the belt with the new tune!

The Shockworks brake rotors were excellent by the way. ZERO fade from multiple brakes above 160kmh and 190kmh down the straights over 15 min sessions. The rotors still look fresh even with the aggressive Project Mu HC+ pads lol. I'll up the ante with some true race level pads next time to give them a real work out haha

natedog · 10-09-2014, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dl86

Here is a video of me running 1m 13.0s at Wakefield Park. First time on a race track.

Second lap there is my quickest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShYr...jhQcxg9YTHO6dQ

I will probably go a fair bit quicker next time with -3 camber on the fronts as my outside edges are heavily worn from running only -0.5 camber. Turn in at speed was a big issue for me aka under steer as I just couldn't get enough rubber on the ground on the front due to the rubbish front camber. Also will have 376rwkw instead of 296rwkw under the belt with the new tune!

The Shockworks brake rotors were excellent by the way. ZERO fade from multiple brakes above 160kmh and 190kmh down the straights over 15 min sessions. The rotors still look fresh even with the aggressive Project Mu HC+ pads lol. I'll up the ante with some true race level pads next time to give them a real work out haha

Good to hear some real track feedback on the brake kit, i'll be giving them a good test at Phillip island in October, looking forward to seeing how the brakes, coilovers and pilot super sports combine together!!!

masda74 · 05-09-2014, 04:12 PM

Does anyone in Perth install them by any chance?

Shockworks · 05-09-2014, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by masda74

Does anyone in Perth install them by any chance?

Hey masda,
We are using Malaga suspensions and Tom really knows his stuff with the Fords with a happy customer just getting back to me today with their good service and install.
Cheers
Brett

graphicgoose · 05-09-2014, 04:15 PM

They don't have a dealer/set shop in Perth Marco. They've previously used WA Suspension, but Brett shipped mine straight to Malaga suspensions to see how they go.

gtxxr6 · 06-09-2014, 11:23 AM

Shameless plug for Shockworks again. After purchasing a set of shockworks coilovers for my FG sedan around 2 months ago, I have been more than impressed as most already know, but around 2 weeks ago Brett messaged me saying he has found a new way to get a bit more grip in the rear end by adjusting the valving in the rear shocks, so I dropped them in with him, and got them back 3 days later with the modifications done and a complete check over to make sure everything was how it should be.
The reason I recommend them so highly, isnt just because they perform so well, its that after sales support that no other brand offers. What you pay for when you buy your kit is a wealth of experience which will be on hand to help you along the way with any after sales support. I've not seen another company look after people so well after they already have your money.

graphicgoose · 06-09-2014, 11:30 AM

I haven't even had my coilovers fitted yet and already I have to agree with gtxxr6 regarding Brett's customer service. I don't think I've ever had such a positive customer service experience in my life. Brett genuinely seems to care about his customers and really wants them to have the best experience with his product possible. I even had Brett emailing me asking excitedly if I'd had the coilovers fitted yet and that he was hoping I was loving the new feel of the car, how good is that?! My kit is getting fitted on the 12th, so I'll be sure to post up my thoughts and impressions afterwards. If the coilovers are anything like the guy designing and tuning them I have no doubts they'll be amazing.

Also, Brett, this adjustment to the valving to increase rear end grip that gtxxr6 has mentioned above, is this something you're doing with all new kits that you're sending out (i.e. did you manage to do this adjustment to my kit before it was sent out?).

Cheers,
Dan

Shockworks · 06-09-2014, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by graphicgoose

I haven't even had my coilovers fitted yet and already I have to agree with gtxxr6 regarding Brett's customer service. I don't think I've ever had such a positive customer service experience in my life. Brett genuinely seems to care about his customers and really wants them to have the best experience with his product possible. I even had Brett emailing me asking excitedly if I'd had the coilovers fitted yet and that he was hoping I was loving the new feel of the car, how good is that?! My kit is getting fitted on the 12th, so I'll be sure to post up my thoughts and impressions afterwards. If the coilovers are anything like the guy designing and tuning them I have no doubts they'll be amazing.

Also, Brett, this adjustment to the valving to increase rear end grip that gtxxr6 has mentioned above, is this something you're doing with all new kits that you're sending out (i.e. did you manage to do this adjustment to my kit before it was sent out?).

Cheers,
Dan

I want to get it on a couple of customers who are local to me for their feedback. The customers car we just did, has a good steerer and does some drags as well, so wanting to see if he is totally happy before we make any changes to the production set. As always if we find a clear improvement we will introduce into production and revalve any customers cars for free but testing first:-)
Cheers
Brett

gtxxr6 · 06-09-2014, 11:38 AM

i'm pretty sure it was more aimed for big power cars going to the drags, im making around 450rwkw so we are trying to see how well we can get the car out of the hole.
plenty of people in the past have written off coilovers for the drags because they think they are too stiff, but they are just buying the wrong brand!

raband · 06-09-2014, 05:20 PM

Haha - just responded in another forum to a question as to how I was finding the Shockworks at the strip. Reposting here because it's relevant to the above

Rears are still on full soft from when they were fitted - have played with the fronts but not the rears yet. Will do that shortly.

So yeah, full soft at the rears, full hard at the front for the drags.

8 runs last night - all in the 1.9's for the 60' and a 1.8. Previously on stock springs 2.2 was the norm. (doesn't take into account that I'm slowly improving myself as well, but does show a definite difference)

Definitely give more grip that the stock setup, but also gives back fantastic feedback when on the road. Under acceleration you can feel where the tyres are getting to their limit of traction and keep a nice balance with them at that limit. Would be expecting even greater control once I do find the proper firmness to dial the rears in at too. I think the fact that they're non-progressive gives them a huge advantage in that regard - constant spring rate the whole way through the load.

gtxxr6 · 06-09-2014, 09:28 PM

didn't realise that was you at calder last night
what was your best time in the end?

raband · 06-09-2014, 11:26 PM

Ah - which one was me? Was a few FG's :P
(Silver one, COMPEX numberplate was me)

ended up 12.15 - seems about where the car and me are stuck at the moment. Am now happy with it off the line, but doesn't seem to matter what I do down the track - doesn't make much difference. 12.3 for a bad run, 12.1 for a good one - about ready to give up on the magical 11.9 run.

Pretty happy with that for an LPG family taxi, but will be speaking with Mick during the week towards eeking the little bit more from the tune to get the barge an 11.

Which one were you in? Did we have a chat?

gtxxr6 · 07-09-2014, 05:04 PM

yeah compex, guessing company car haha, me and a mate loved it, drive it for a work car every day then take it to the track and smash all the ls1's
nah i was only spectating
this is mine

naddis01 · 09-09-2014, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gtxxr6

yeah compex, guessing company car haha, me and a mate loved it, drive it for a work car every day then take it to the track and smash all the ls1's
nah i was only spectating
this is mine image

What are those wheels mate?

raband · 07-09-2014, 06:02 PM

That's it ;)

egoxr6 · 09-09-2014, 09:47 PM

I want

gtxxr6 · 10-09-2014, 07:03 PM

concave concept cc02 in 18x9.5 +22 all round

gtxxr6 · 10-09-2014, 07:04 PM

rear fitment is good with a 235 on it, they poke perfect, fronts sit in a touch, would need a 10mm spacer to be perfect

rab · 10-09-2014, 07:21 PM

Haven't trawled through 7 pages (sorry), do these help or negate axle tramp ?

gtxxr6 · 10-09-2014, 09:37 PM

i have no tramp. but i had none before i got my set so i dunno if that counts

graphicgoose · 14-09-2014, 08:30 PM

I played with the settings on my Shockworks today. First chance I've had to really give them a good test since having them fitted. I had to take the rear wheel off first to see where the adjuster for the rear dampener was, but now I know where it is it's easy enough to reach from under the car.

Definitely a night and day improvement in handling! The floaty boat characteristics are gone and the car feels much more composed. Grip feels to have increased and to be much more progressive and predictable.

There's also a much more noticeable difference between fully hard and fully soft than I found with the Teins in my old car. Fully soft with the Shockworks is great for just cruising around on, still has great handling but maintains almost OEM type levels of comfort. Fully hard is ridiculous! It's not painful, but it's uncomfortable. The car transmits every bump and bounces around heaps if there's bumps through a corner. Brett's recommendation of 3 on the front and 4 on the back (0 being the softest and 10 being the hardest) seems like a great compromise for spirited street driving. The suspension soaks up the bumps without unsettling the car and allows a heap of grip. The car also sits flats though the turns and doesn't jump around when you're on the limits of grip.

I'm pretty happy so far.

I should add too that a mate of mine had a drive this arvo. He'd driven it stock before and at the time thought it didn't inspire confidence through the twisties at all. He jumped in it today and his comment was "I'm actually really enjoying driving your car now, this is much better!" Just as a comparison, he's got Teins in his Monaro, so he's used to somewhat similar cars handling.

natedog · 15-09-2014, 09:24 AM

Quality of tyres make a massive difference!

The old rears I had would struggle round corners if I went 4/12 clicks!

With the pilots on I am 8/12 at front and 8/12 rear and it still feels pretty sticky and balanced not too bouncy through corners I go through regularly to test.

It's trial and error, and good fun learning as you go!!

marcyeo · 15-09-2014, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by graphicgoose

I played with the settings on my Shockworks today. First chance I've had to really give them a good test since having them fitted. I had to take the rear wheel off first to see where the adjuster for the rear dampener was, but now I know where it is it's easy enough to reach from under the car.

Definitely a night and day improvement in handling! The floaty boat characteristics are gone and the car feels much more composed. Grip feels to have increased and to be much more progressive and predictable.

There's also a much more noticeable difference between fully hard and fully soft than I found with the Teins in my old car. Fully soft with the Shockworks is great for just cruising around on, still has great handling but maintains almost OEM type levels of comfort. Fully hard is ridiculous! It's not painful, but it's uncomfortable. The car transmits every bump and bounces around heaps if there's bumps through a corner. Brett's recommendation of 3 on the front and 4 on the back (0 being the softest and 10 being the hardest) seems like a great compromise for spirited street driving. The suspension soaks up the bumps without unsettling the car and allows a heap of grip. The car also sits flats though the turns and doesn't jump around when you're on the limits of grip.

I'm pretty happy so far.

I should add too that a mate of mine had a drive this arvo. He'd driven it stock before and at the time thought it didn't inspire confidence through the twisties at all. He jumped in it today and his comment was "I'm actually really enjoying driving your car now, this is much better!" Just as a comparison, he's got Teins in his Monaro, so he's used to somewhat similar cars handling.

Great writeup Goose. Would you say on full soft the Shockworks are still softer a ride than the Teins would be? I've been thinking of getting a set of these, or some Bilsteins with H&R springs.

Shockworks only problem is they don't have anyone in Brisbane yet to install these, otherwise would have gotten a set long ago..