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02-01-2020, 10:29 PM | #1 | ||
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A V8 Everest?
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Just a shame the everest raptor never made it. The “canyonero” looked tough as nails for those that saw it.
In a wheels story about ranger raptor they said only issue was the rear guards, getting them to work with flares for an everest raptor. |
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02-01-2020, 11:15 PM | #3 | ||
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Bloody hell 85k for the 2 litre Raptor, yeah worried this will crack 100k
Still reckon it will sell well at that price. Will probably be the best Ute in the world Last edited by Brazen; 02-01-2020 at 11:24 PM. |
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03-01-2020, 12:23 AM | #4 | ||
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There was a guy in queensland i think it was, that built his own coyote ranger a couple of years ago. From what i recall he said it took very little work to make it fit. The biggest issue he had was getting the electronics to work in tandem with the rangers. But the engine fit like a glove.
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I am not sure if anyone knows the answer or the question is beneath some, but is the current motor in a Mustang a 'coyote'? or is it different and if so, is it smaller, lighter etc than the engine that was used in the attached video of the Ranger V8 conversion.
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Will be lighter as it doesn’t have a supercharger sitting on top of it. Size wise it’s much the same. |
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As for the parts, anyone remember the Tickford XR8s?
The engines came shipped in 175kw guise, Tickford took the heads, intake, throttle bodies off and threw them all in the bin. I saw the skip fulls of them in 2001. Wouldn't surprise me if they didn't do the same with the 2L soot chucker
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3.2 diesel is 235kg, 5L is 200kg.
Can't find the 2L TTD specs but in the Ranger its about 30kg lighter than the 3.2.
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I can see this being a $100,000 plus ranger but this is what I'd suggest most people wanted or expected from a Raptor from the start.
Hell if If I was to look at a twin cab this would be enough for me to sway me back from the RAM option instead. Really excited about this possibility ... fingers crossed it actually happens.
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Diesels are inherently heavy anyway. I wouldnt expect much weight difference. Coyote is all alloy and has plastic rocker covers and intake manifold which helps keep weight down from higher up. While the ecoblue has beefy internals, 2 turbos and an intercooler adding weight. I will be interested to see the weight difference. |
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When I was working on the details for a 302 swap into my 91 4runner back in 1993 weight on the suspension etc was a consideration.
This was soon dispelled when I weighed a 2.8 litre Toyota diesel versus the 302 Windsor as it turned out to be lighter. So it wouldn't surprise me that an alloy Coyote could also be lighter than the 4cyl diesel currently being used or if not very close to being equal. |
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Ford may have hit on something here. A petrol engined V8 ute …… there's an idea.
Now, if they can lower it about 300mm so that it goes around corners as well ……….. |
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Considering, the super ute series is heading into v8's this year and no other manufacturer has a v8 ute here, this would be a real winner by Ford.
Just make 500 of them and test the waters! |
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03-01-2020, 11:25 AM | #20 | ||
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Be insteresting to see what transmission they use?
Ranger Raptor is about 530Kg heavier than Mustang Fastback 10 Sp Auto according to Cars Guide Comparison. Being a premium model do you think the engine maybe be given a helping hand? |
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Is there any chance they could also use new 7.3L as the perfect tow vehicle and the 5.0L as performance variant?
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a heavier frame, longer wheelbase and longer tray for the crew cab? That would jack up the gross combined weight rating... A "Magna" Ranger, make it four inches wider, job done.. ^^^^ that would put the wind right up a lot of competitors. |
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The yanks have ideas that will pop up. The potential merging of t4 and t6 as has been reported in the future throws up some options though. Still not sure how it’s going to work. |
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What they're talking about is a single business cost centre, there's talk that the yanks will take back Ranger after this next product cycle which I hope is wayyy off in the future. Man there's no way you can design common frame parts for an F150 and Ranger not unless the size gap between the two is narrowed considerably. |
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A V8 Raptor would be awesome but a V8 XLT would be pretty good too. Realistically and as someone earlier pointed out who needs all the bling of a Raptor. I have been looking at a Ranger for a while but a Wildtrak or Raptor doesn’t interest me, sure if money was no object, but for practicality the XLT or FX4 is where it is at.
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I think Ford will be keeping a close eye on demand and if it's through the roof then yeah I think the V8 will, or at least should be made an option for lower specced models, and the Everest. My question is which V8 spec will they get? The Mustang spec or the F series spec? There's quite a difference in power and torque, the latter being made for durability with around 300kW and 500Nm. Still stout. Queue the aftermarket superchargers and Turbochargers. |
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Not so long ago, suggesting Ford would do a V8 Ranger would get you laughed off the boards. Now we're seriously considering what power level V8 should Ranger have. Why not: Ranger Raptor....300kW and 500Nm (F150 V8 cheaper and easier fit than EB V6) Ranger Raptor R Spec.......Mustang R Spec S/C 5.0 V8...for those terminally addicted. Honestly, these three engines for Ranger and job done: 2.0 diesel, 3.0 diesel, 5.0 Coyote Most HP buyers would love the V8 even if it was 300 Kw F150 version, the potential is huge. Last edited by jpd80; 03-01-2020 at 08:56 PM. |
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