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regen,, you burn a fine particle (soot) into another type of fine particle (ash)
but ash will pass threw eventually, so how long does it last,, like a cat converter if it never gets overheated 15+yrs.. then suddenly collapse,, buy such time the wreakers would be full of them.
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I don't mean to seem rude but you didn't answer the question. What sort of involvement with dpf-related stuff do you have that you can base your comments from? What are your skills/experience/expertise that tells you the life of a DPF is from 15+ years to limitless?
I'm just asking for you to back up what you're saying because anyone can say anything on a forum, it's nothing personal. |
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Nothing wrong with getting sidetracked a bit, but the capabilities of Australia's Collins submarines have nothing to do with the subject, but could make an interesting topic on the Bar.
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As far as this thread is concerned it's about diesel.
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PS: the life of a DPF is entirely up you the consumer!!
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We are talking about diesel.
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define 'a few years'?? do some simple research and maths regarding the amount of tonnage carried by diesel transport, and then work out how many 'greener' vans will be required to distribute this throughout the areas that are currently serviced by diesel haulage. its fine to be an idealist. but idealists and reality are generally poles apart. |
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I was referring to your comment below, where you alluded to going off topic whenever you thought fit.
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Tesla trucks. Problem solved
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They will just ban trucks that wont meet the latest euro standards .
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Just read whole thread, phew.
For my 2c the most interesting engine development seems to be going on at Mazda - the Skyactiv-X seems to be somewhere between a petrol and diesel engine. It should run on 91, has a compression up near the diesel, and can burn petrol in a compression phase at times. A dedicated ethanol engine will also feature this higher compression and efficiency. So what we might get (in passenger cars) is the petrol and diesel morphing into one. Also I've noticed Tojo teaming Atkinson cycle motors with its hybrid drive - can anyone explain why these motors are a better choice? Toyota are making (some of, one of?) their DI motors have a separate injector behind the valves so these dont suffer the extreme carbonation that small turbo petrols have in recent years. Lastly, no one mentioned gassing monkeys in a diesel thread. Think of the monkeys
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This is not the same thing as "make more power". In the mid-late 1800s James Atkinson came up with a linked connection between what would ordinarily be called a connecting rod and crankshaft. What this intermediate linking allowed to happen was for all 4 cycles on an internal combustion reciprocating engine to happen in 1 revolution of the crankshaft instead of 2. I have never analyzed one of these so I can not say where the inherent efficiencies are in doing this. Now let's talk a little bit about what is being called an "Atkinson" cycle engine these days. Anyone dismantling one of Toyota's "Atkinson" cycle engines will be disappointed if they are expecting to see this linked arrangement. It is not there. What will be found is an engine (I believe in Toyota's case) claimed to be Atkinson is an arrangement the intake valves are held open a significantly longer period of time than usual. This pushes some of the fresh intake charge back into the intake track, which does 2 things from a fuel efficiency standpoint. 1. There is a reduction of pumping losses; power lost to running the internal pump, which an IC engine is. 2. The intake charged push back into the intake track contains residual spent contaminants remaining from the previous combustion. A built in EGR which primarily helps with how fuel is burned in daily driving applications. For a technical break down of EGR principles I would have to defer to Peter (yearby). Both methods listed above, original Atkinson cycle and today's "Atkinson" cycle, result in an overall less powerful engine, yet produce more power for amount of fuel consumed. Unless someone can point me in another direction, what today is called an "Atkinson" cycle engine if really a Miller cycle engine. I know some may have been taught or told contrary, but Ralph Miller patented 2 Miller cycle designs. One of these principles is at the heart of what Toyota and the world journos call an Atkinson cycle. The other reduces cylinder pumping losses by closing the intake valve way early prior to the piston reaching bottom dead center (BDC) during the intake cycle. The cylinder never fills up, so it is easier to compress during the compression cycle. It doesn't do anything with EGR. Again resulting in less total power, yet more power per the amount of fuel consumed. |
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I don't think Greenies comprehend economics.
Ban this! get rid of That! Protest protest, but they never come up with a Practical viable solution
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Yes, the load of frozen fish has been dropped at our outer depot and is currently being reloaded into our fleet of smaller greener vehicles for your convenience.
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