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DIY Tragic
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It may be those options are sorted in order of “least worst” long term environmental imprint?
The cynic in me notes how soon after ascendancy a new government discovers a crisis and “saves” the little people from it. |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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What sort of crisis is this?
Petrol - roads are still chockers, more so than a month ago. The long weekend just passed, roads between metro and regionals were full of toorak tractors and their caravans. Energy - east coast has had an arctic blast in the last couple of weeks. As far as I'm aware, no significant power outage has occurred.
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Peter Car
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These idiots have no idea was base power is. They think solar and wind can do it all. |
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Also, even if people are currently spending it doesn’t mean they can afford to. I remain lacking in confidence that the government will do anything meaningful to encourage restraint.
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May be a good time to get a transfer switch installed and a portable generator I reckon, power goes out here enough in boganistan as it is,
When it rains, the power goes out When there's wind, the power goes out When its warm, the power goes out When its cold, the power goes out When there's war in Europe, the power goes out ![]() |
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It’s funny you say that, I’ve got such work scheduled ASAP, been waiting on sparky of choice since before this latest round of nonsense came up.
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That's alright we'll just outsource more steel production to China, who started a trade war with us in the last few years, just like how we're buying Russian timber, how's that working out for the construction industry ![]() |
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The problem has been progressively getting worse not better. |
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Peter Car
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Dan Andrews getting the blame for gas supply due to his fracking bans. The country would have 4 times the amount we would ever need if they could just get it out of the ground in Victoria. Of course he's denying it has anything to do with that, cause he's never done a thing wrong ever. Just ask him.
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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Wow, is there a crisis that man hasn't caused
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When I worked in the UK, the office would shut down all air conditioning and "non essential" power every Wednesday at 3pm for a couple of hours. Apparently due to price peaks. That was back in 2008!
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![]() Yes, that's exactly what I've been talking about in the last few pages of this thread, we're the world's biggest exporter of LNG...... We have no 'shortage' - we just export it all for ZERO revenue, then create an artificial shortage in our domestic market and Australians buy their own LNG at global market prices because our third rate politicians are on the take from the industry through miniscule political donations and favourable positions on boards of energy companies post politics so they won't create any gas reservation policies for our own market. It would be like Saudi Arabia paying $2.25/L for 91 then running their own market short of unleaded because they export it all causing prices to go through the roof. The only state which has gas reservation policies is WA that they implemented 15 years ago, so they pay 8-10x less than we do in eastern states (and SA) Then because the domestic prices for LNG are so high, the government tries to step in to regulate energy prices, so what the generators do is withdraw their services instead of bidding at the government mandated price, creating a shortage of energy generation - so QLD and NSW are facing blackouts because the generators are refusing to run because it's not profitable. This is basically solvable by legislation changes for gas reservation policies on a state level, it's a good test for their political will. It effects us in VIC less because we have brown coal generating the majority of our power, we're not heavily reliant on gas generation like other states. Even if we allow fracking in VIC all that's going to happen is that new gas reserves are going to go to China and Japan, unless we implement gas reservation policies/legislation. |
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What area is this gas supply? |
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Article says it's all on shore in Victoria. Doesn't mention where though. Just says Victoria would have enough gas to power every home in the state for 200 years, if only they were allowed to access it.
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![]() Once they are back, we should be alright? We've had tradies here all week, they leave all the doors open, so our gas heating has been going on full blast non stop. ![]() Yes, was thinking just that, we could raid our land of all its resources, destroy agricultural land whilst at it, and all that would do is just get sold off anyway, doesn't fix the root cause.
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Aust already has way more than it needs (The Moomba gas fields in SA have been there since the 60's) we just don't get to keep it.
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Fracking would destroy agricultural land and water tables and for what, so we could let the multinationals continue to drain and export our existing gas fields. This article shows how bad fracking is for the environment. Could we really expect companies to do the right thing when fracking and for it to be properly policed.https://www.investopedia.com/ask/ans...nvironment.asp |
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With all the political ideology and the green mantra we are doomed to shortages and high prices, honestly we look like idiots compared to the rest of the world, we just one big joke. |
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It’s OK, maybe soon there will be laws passed to stop us criticising the government, then everything can just go on however it already does (eg, BOHICA).
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![]() NSW Police does a decent effort of it too with their 'fixated persons unit' which only seems to target journalists looking into politicians ![]() I think we should be looking into biofuels, yes I know the inputs don't make it worth it from a purely environmental perspective but it would give us energy independence from the Middle East and I don't see that as a bad thing. You can make very high quality biodiesel feedstock from tallow which is a waste product from our beef industry, SA was doing it for a while there. Canola oil also works well as a biodiesel feedstock but is a bit more expensive. |
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And don't forget the Top Gear Diesel Benz that Clarkson had running on old re-used Fish and Chip oil! |
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Rudolph Diesel who invented the things, designed it to run on peanut oil and other various fuels. Highly doubt anything modern would run on WVO/SVO due to the viscosity of it and the tiny holes in modern injectors at the huge injection pressures they run, but a high quality biodiesel could work, think of synthetic motor oil vs mineral oils for lubricity purposes. |
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There is some retarded thinking we don't have enough and therefore we need to open it up more.
We have enough for our domestic supply and can also export the surplus too, what we don't do is reserve it for ourselves, If they open up more, they'd just flog that offshore too ![]() |
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I hear it not so easy to expand that condition now, a missed window of opportunity. |
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This goes back to the Howard days when he allowed big Gas to export without a National Reserve requirement. I think there were 25+yr contracts signed with countries and exports. I read, it's now cheaper for australia to buy in exported gas than use what is here!! The only Country in Aus with their heads screwed on correctly is WA! |
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Did I hear correctly on the radio this morning that energy "crisis" has been averted?
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BTw trucks are 50/40/10 atm in winter and 90/10 in summer re biodiesel mix. Was watching a guy on YT running a hotshot outfit in the US using bio in a Dodge ram 5.9 without problems.
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