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**FTE217** · 21-10-2021, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0

Thought I'd share my morning's experience with you all.

But before I get into today's details, I need to provide some background info from yesterday. My daughter booked in for her second moderna dose, about 30 mins or so before she was due to start work. She doesn't handle needles too well and was a bit frazzled beforehand. She got stressed because they took a while to get around to giving her the dose and she was worried she'd be late for work. Needless to say she didn't feel well afterwards: she was flushed, hot, felt nauseated and was dizzy. She soldiered on through work but really didn't feel much better.

She didn't feel like much for dinner, so didn't eat much. Went to bed about 10. I got woken up at 12 with her searching for some pain relief for her arm and a headache. Got her back off to sleep and hit the sack myself.

Got woken up again at 5:30 with her complaining of chest pains. Her breathing was very shallow and I figure she might be having a panic attack.

After a bit of discussion, we decide to head up to the emergency department. Arrive at the hospital and we're screened outside. Whilst waiting, I let the ex know what's going on and she decides to come up. My daughter is taken into a cubicle and I go back outside to wait for the ex to arrive. Ex gets here and goes in with my daughter (only one allowed at a time).

About 30 minutes later, ex texts me to say there's been an announcement that there is code yellow for x-ray , emergency and one other department. Nurse comes outside and tells me and one other person waiting outside that there has been a covid exposure and that the site may be considered a tier 1 exposure site and that they are awaiting advice in that. We're told not to leave as we may be required to test and isolate. My daughter and ex are not allowed to leave. Either.

So, it's now 11 and still no word as to what's going on. The code yellow happened about 8:30.

Looks like it could be a quiet weekend coming up.

imagine how many varying scenarios have been occuring similar in hospitals - in some case's for the worst as we've seen reported.
Touch wood all a ok in the end Fox all the best.

I'll pass on one that occured last night as well re one of the fsmily.
There we were celebrating our eldest son's bday dinner (even better having some fam joining us due to restrictions loosening) my wife gets a sms from one of her sisters we are close to their 13yr old fit son staying at a friends place had suddenly gone all dizzy gasping for air - they called the ambos thankfully got him under control rushed to hosp.
Only my bro inlaw could enter hosp covid rules so you can imagine how my sister inlaw was feeling waiting outside.
Straight to intensive care and scans etc ends up its Wolff Parkinso - White syndrome. (yes thankfully can/will be treated)
So their night and the boys were one of those you never wish for as a parent.
Thankfully cardioligist has it all under control, the poor fella has to stay in hosp procedure done next week.
The poor kid like any active one having been locked up for 3mths + finally gets out and about and now this, you can't pick it eh.
Yep thankfully he'll a ok but a day in a life says it all.

Trevor 57 · 21-10-2021, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jaydee

I agree, I get a shiver down my spine

remind you of an old Skyhooks song that came out in the same year as Goughs political demise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjEQq_6yWKQ

**FairmontGS** · 21-10-2021, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Charliewool

Booked?… Care to share flight cost? (Serious question, as I’ve had quotes as high as US$62k.. one way LAX to SYD)

Doesn't make sense Mr Wool - I'm looking at QF flights now on the laptop and they are 1300$-1800$ each way from 01/12?

**FTE217** · 21-10-2021, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FairmontGS

Doesn't make sense Mr Wool - I'm looking at QF flights now on the laptop and they are 1300$-1800$ each way from 01/12?

I have had intel from others over US side flight costs mad like that, not sure in some case's incl quaranteen for eg as things are changing alot lately.
A biz mate of my bro quoted few weeks ago $50k or abouts, he's staying put for now.

We just done some flight checks Syd/LA/Vegas return.
Bro is booked in I'm not going - he's mad imo but cost was under $4k.
He's flying out Nov 2 or abouts.
I'm not risking being around all those zombies despite being vaxxed at this stage.
Worse is being on their domestic flights, I'm sure all seats are full.
No way, early next year hopefully.

Itsme · 21-10-2021, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by russellw

Oh dear, poor things. Let's hope that they never have to face real hardship then like our grandparents did.

I say the same but that has nothing to do with todays pandemic conditions we are facing; my comment was more to the point of peoples mental wellbeing as to how well they are coping with present conditions imposed on us.
From my perceived observation most people do not want to be locked down anymore, they want their freedoms whether right or wrong.

**russellw** · 21-10-2021, 01:58 PM

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT October 20th 2021.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting.

2,120 new cases for Australia and 19 deaths so the CMR is 1.055%.

60 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 0.537%.

The UK had 48,245 cases yesterday and 179 deaths for a CMR of 1.619%.

84,940 new cases in the USA yesterday and 2,671 deaths sees CMR at 1.630%.

Other notable points:
The USA passes 46M cases;
Europe passes 62M cases;

Belarus (2,076);

... recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

No countries move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period and none drop below.

**FairmontGS** · 21-10-2021, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FTE217

I have had intel from others over US side flight costs mad like that, not sure in some case's incl quaranteen for eg as things are changing alot lately.
A biz mate of my bro quoted few weeks ago $50k or abouts, he's staying put for now.

We just done some flight checks Syd/LA/Vegas return.
Bro is booked in I'm not going - he's mad imo but cost was under $4k.
He's flying out Nov 2 or abouts.
I'm not risking being around all those zombies despite being vaxxed at this stage.
Worse is being on their domestic flights, I'm sure all seats are full.
No way, early next year hopefully.

Just did a search on one-way LAX-SYD, Y, ~1800 USD 1/12 down to ~1000 USD from 01/01.

tweeked · 21-10-2021, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Charliewool

Booked?… Care to share flight cost? (Serious question, as I’ve had quotes as high as US$62k.. one way LAX to SYD)

Managed to grab 3x Business class, BNE - LAX and LAX - SYD for about $1600 plus 650,000 points the other morning. Heard on the grapevine that rewards filghts were dropping at 7am. I have got pretty good status with Qantas which helps.

To get 3 seats classic rewards Business both ways was pretty lucky. I didn't look at economy prices, but the same flights Bus tickets on the sale fare was about $25k all up, I would never pay that.

Trevor 57 · 21-10-2021, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Itsme

I say the same but that has nothing to do with todays pandemic conditions we are facing; my comment was more to the point of peoples mental wellbeing as to how well they are coping with present conditions imposed on us.
From my perceived observation most people do not want to be locked down anymore, they want their freedoms whether right or wrong.

you need to talk to people who lived through WWII and the depression before you say that - my parents did

**FTE217** · 21-10-2021, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tweeked

Managed to grab 3x Business class, BNE - LAX and LAX - SYD for about $1600 plus 650,000 points the other morning. Heard on the grapevine that rewards filghts were dropping at 7am. I have got pretty good status with Qantas which helps.

To get 3 seats classic rewards Business both ways was pretty lucky. I didn't look at economy prices, but the same flights Bus tickets on the sale fare was about $25k all up, I would never pay that.

yes and to FGS, there has been many varying reports by many people on costs, from where who what and the other big click then comes down to status as tweeked mentioned.
Those who have a good status have the best chance for better deals as we know, gen public well, we know the leprecorn for eg and most airlines love em.

**russellw** · 21-10-2021, 03:08 PM

I almost missed it but Victoria reached another (sad) milestone yesterday in passing the 1,000 mortalities mark.

**FTE217** · 21-10-2021, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevor 57

you need to talk to people who lived through WWII and the depression before you say that - my parents did

yes well I'm sure many of us have Trev, parents who went through it and we cherish them for it and above all love hearing the stories for thanks to them here we are, older wiser and done well thanks to them.

As you know its some 76yrs since WW11 ended.
My kids as much as they love the family history and all and respect their grand parents parents etc lap it all up BUT in the big general picture many cannot relate period.
You could sit down and do a great presentation let alone all the info available in todays world on the topics and it goes in one ear and out the other.
Not all of them but in general for sure.
They have never had to suffer - thankfully not might I add BUT this is their sufferance to them - todays plague - last 2yrs years.
To them it is big for how can you expect most millineals to relate of the past 76yrs ago let alone many other before.
These kids to day right now would feel absolutely ripped.
Thats all they know but they'll survive, some would be learning from this besides being a good lesson for many of us adults might I add.
I'm not going to judge all as if their idiots, thats not fair, looking down on them going, you know what sunny, back in my days and my parents days yaddayaddayadda, many will appreciate things as they mature, don't we all.

slowsnake · 21-10-2021, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Itsme

I say the same but that has nothing to do with todays pandemic conditions we are facing; my comment was more to the point of peoples mental wellbeing as to how well they are coping with present conditions imposed on us.
From my perceived observation most people do not want to be locked down anymore, they want their freedoms whether right or wrong.

You know what, people cope no matter what the conditions are, wether in dire straits, or winning lotto, we get by, sure its not easy but we are not in a refugee camp in Africa or some place just as bad, when the going gets tough, the tough get going, and they look after the weaker folk, and try to direct the stupid.

From a Jail Wardens point of view, prisoners do not want to be locked up anymore, they too want their freedoms, and as you know all people in jail are innocent, just like the victims of covid!

Just get on with it, that's it, no more or less.

Itsme · 21-10-2021, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevor 57

you need to talk to people who lived through WWII and the depression before you say that - my parents did

Why? my parents grew up in the great depression dad served in WW2 in two theatres (middle east and Papua New Guinea) so I'm quite well versed in what they and others went through for our country and I do know how tough it was in bygone era's, actually the war had a great effect on my family afterwards as to what my dad had to deal with returning with his ongoing PTSD issues like many other service personal.

Anyhow fast forward we have our present day issue of covid to deal with and that is what I was commenting on.

Citroënbender · 21-10-2021, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0

All three of us are now in iso for 14 days. Test required day 3 and 13. Covid exposure was in the cubicle next to my daughter.

Quiet two weeks coming up!

Have you got enough toilet paper, pasta and rice?

Actually you’re in a good position (not that you wanted to be there) to impartially critique the contact and management aspects of your isolation, because you’re not easily rattled.

Trevor 57 · 21-10-2021, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FTE217

yes well I'm sure many of us have Trev, parents who went through it and we cherish them for it and above all love hearing the stories for thanks to them here we are, older wiser and done well thanks to them.

As you know its some 76yrs since WW11 ended.
My kids as much as they love the family history and all and respect their grand parents parents etc lap it all up BUT in the big general picture many cannot relate period.
You could sit down and do a great presentation let alone all the info available in todays world on the topics and it goes in one ear and out the other.
Not all of them but in general for sure.
They have never had to suffer - thankfully not might I add BUT this is their sufferance to them - todays plague - last 2yrs years.
To them it is big for how can you expect most millineals to relate of the past 76yrs ago let alone many other before.
These kids to day right now would feel absolutely ripped.
Thats all they know but they'll survive, some would be learning from this besides being a good lesson for many of us adults might I add.
I'm not going to judge all as if their idiots, thats not fair, looking down on them going, you know what sunny, back in my days and my parents days yaddayaddayadda, many will appreciate things as they mature, don't we all.

you raise some great points

Trevor 57 · 21-10-2021, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by slowsnake

You know what, people cope no matter what the conditions are, wether in dire straits, or winning lotto, we get by, sure its not easy but we are not in a refugee camp in Africa or some place just as bad, when the going gets tough, the tough get going, and they look after the weaker folk, and try to direct the stupid.

From a Jail Wardens point of view, prisoners do not want to be locked up anymore, they too want their freedoms, and as you know all people in jail are innocent, just like the victims of covid!

Just get on with it, that's it, no more or less.

one of my clients is a jail warden, and the **** they put up with every day would make most peoples eyes water, let alone the last 18 months - this has just added another layer of complexity to their already demanding job

Itsme · 21-10-2021, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevor 57

this is still spiraling, turns out the school bus driver was the 'super spreader' amongst the kids on the bus. The buses here pick up all over the place, drop some at a central point (interchange), some kids get off, some more kids get on then the buses drop the kids at various schools (primary and secondary), some buses include the school run as part of the normal town service that operates through the day. Poor bugger has spread it far and wide

I used to be angry at the people who spread it, but with this DELTA variant people don't know they are crook until too far down the track

Correct, my eldest daughter family has had two bouts of covid quarantine once when her husband got it from a stay in hospital and my grandchildren picking it up from school, symptoms did not show until they were halfway through quarantine each time. It was only contact tracing that alerted them to having the virus.

**Cav** · 21-10-2021, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevor 57

you need to talk to people who lived through WWII and the depression before you say that - my parents did

PFFTT!

That was nuthin' compared to the hysteria of the looming Y2K BUG

Itsme · 21-10-2021, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cav

PFFTT!

That was nuthin' compared to the hysteria of the looming Y2K BUG

Cav I like your sense of humour; you are definitely one in a million.

**Fordman1** · 21-10-2021, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cav

That was nuthin' compared to the hysteria of the looming Y2K BUG

Uhmm, that’s just disrespectful and stupid.

Enjoy your ignorance

**Charliewool** · 22-10-2021, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tweeked

Managed to grab 3x Business class, BNE - LAX and LAX - SYD for about $1600 plus 650,000 points the other morning. Heard on the grapevine that rewards filghts were dropping at 7am. I have got pretty good status with Qantas which helps.

To get 3 seats classic rewards Business both ways was pretty lucky. I didn't look at economy prices, but the same flights Bus tickets on the sale fare was about $25k all up, I would never pay that.

Thanks for that!… Sounds promising for the future!
This is a sample from back in mid-late August….

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**FTE217** · 22-10-2021, 06:15 AM

Damn ! talk about price hiking, thats wicked as you quoted earlier.

Citroënbender · 22-10-2021, 06:57 AM

Those prices make cargo ship bunks look like a good alternative.

**FTE217** · 22-10-2021, 09:00 AM

and so Melb finally gains some release from midnight, 260ish days overall.
Rejoice all welcome back !

**FairmontGS** · 22-10-2021, 09:03 AM

Qantas brings forward some international routes for NSW reopening

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Qantas will bring forward the restart of flights between Sydney and destinations including Singapore, Bangkok and Johannesburg as NSW prepares to become the first state to reopen for international travel on November 1.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...22-p5927e.html

**Cav** · 22-10-2021, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Fordman1

Uhmm, that’s just disrespectful and stupid.

Enjoy your ignorance

I thought it was hilarious because I'm that kinda guy.

Was it my good looks that upset you?

**Polyal** · 22-10-2021, 09:39 AM

Talking with alot of our suppliers for a mine site shipping has gone out of control as well.

Delays of months, costs x10 what they were not long ago, cant get containers because they are all sitting in Australia (??)....2 years into Covid you think we would be over it by now but there seems to be a good 6 months in the world pulling its finger out again.

**FTE217** · 22-10-2021, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

Talking with alot of our suppliers for a mine site shipping has gone out of control as well.

Delays of months, costs x10 what they were not long ago, cant get containers because they are all sitting in Australia (??)....2 years into Covid you think we would be over it by now but there seems to be a good 6 months in the world pulling its finger out again.

Being I'm importing this has been going on since pandemic started Polyal and once the first lockdowns opened anywhere things got on a roll and demands have been huge.
China doing well re all this I tell you.
Lead times went from 60 to 120days for ages now.
Container costs have doubled and for some way more.
Chinese factories have issued price rise's last 12mths, just recently I know another company different industry copped 15% increase.
We had another 6% issued last month.
Everyone is ordering double you used to and you still can't get enough talking here.
I also do a bit of drop shipments to other countries, they are experiecing the same.
Its crazy.

**russellw** · 22-10-2021, 10:42 AM

NSW/VIC

NSW records 345 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate increases to 1.0065 (from 0.9866) while the actual line moves further above the predictive trend line and is heading upward again.

VIC records 2,189 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate increases to 1.0519 (from 1.0449) while the actual line falls behind the predictive trend.