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If everything continues to open up as mooted, that’s a significant number of people excluded from things like Christmas shopping, EOY lunches, other workplace or community events. I’d think victim blaming of those who’ve recovered from Covid (which still seems to be an implicit response in some areas) in the form of saying “bad luck” or similar, to be poor form, too. Last edited by Citroënbender; 18-10-2021 at 10:17 AM. Reason: Lack of clarity |
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NSW/VIC
NSW records 266 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate decreases to 0.9242 (from 0.9462) while the actual line remains above the predictive trend line but is heading down at about the same rate of decline. ![]() VIC records 1,903 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate decreases to 1.0148 (from 1.0234) while the actual line remains below the predictive trend. ![]()
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Also, now we both won’t be able to train at the gym at the end of the week due to health advice, however both of us are allowed to continue to work in our respective workplaces. Surely a contingency for single dose or has been mentioned previously infected and recovered individuals should be within the rule set? |
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People have had plenty of time to get vaccinated, they chose not too, fine its their choice (as I am sure they have touted). Some wanted to and it was delayed, I am one of them, but I have my 2nd booked so I just lay low until its done. If you need a shot to get into somewhere then you cant until you do. We are at the % rates now in each state due to some good work, the people left just need to catch up or they are probably not going to get it anyway because they know better. I suspect the no jab no play rules will phase out in 6-12 months, its just to painful to administer. BUT, its certainly a good stick/carrot to get those who are sitting on the fence to just get it done which in turn raised the overall %.
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The elapsed time for me is about 19 weeks, that’s from when I booked, to a fortnight after second dose. I waited a fortnight after my father’s first vaccination in case he became ill as a side-effect and needed more TLC - if we’d both been unwell it wouldn’t have been workable. (I had great concerns about relinquishing him to paid care; I eventually did and it promptly led to his death.)
To bring the second dose forward from the twelve week point might look good for the government right now, but it implicitly compromises the result and that’s just back-loading a contract. The reasons overall in my case might be somewhat unique but the long timeline is likely more common than credited. |
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This made it into the news as its own article? With 1000+ deaths a day in the US still I figured this type of story would be very common |
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Data valid as at 00:00 GMT October 17th 2021.
Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting. 2,149 new cases for Australia and 16 deaths so the CMR is 1.070%. 52 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 0.561%. The UK had 44,696 cases yesterday and 57 deaths for a CMR of 1.640%. 34,320 new cases in the USA yesterday and 464 deaths sees CMR at 1.626%. Other notable points: (weekend reporting) Brunei (504); and Russia (34,303) ... recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day. No countries move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period while Germany and Guatemala drop below.
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The local primary school is making up for lost opportunities. If I had a beer every time Principal Stentor said “…boys and girls” over the PA this morning, I’d be well on the way to doing a Dylan Thomas.
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I also have another child that is 5 years old in the same school, that is today back at school due to the incompetent ruling that allows them to be back at school. My 9 year old has remote schooling today but back tomorrow where we have already been alerted to some students in his year/class that have been visiting family in Melb etc and disobeying the Covid directives but yet selfishly their families think it's all ok to put my child at risk because evidently if you listen to most , Covid is only a cold in children and they get over it so easily......... I am really annoyed at the lack of respect to those that have children that are immune compromised and have no options, if you take them out of school, they are classed as absent, we are unable to remote learn as according to the school the directives are that all student's are to be on site. It's very much politically driven the decisions made of late and not to the safety or thoughts of those that are very vulnerable to Covid, no fault of their own. |
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For yourself and Trev, I don't know exactly what you want from the Gov or society? How can they/we cater for everyone? The only practical thing I can think of is for you to wait until a jab is OK for kids which will be some time off, in the mean time the high percentage of the population needs to get back to work. Not entirely sure there is a right answer here?
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You sound like my eldest daughter, her eldest, 14, has asthma, her youngest, 8, has significant coeliac and is immune compromised, she gets so angry (boiling point angry) at parents of healthy kids for so little consideration for others. My daughter is taking immune suppressants as well. Her 2 eldest 2, 14 & 12 got their first vaccine jab today happily
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a bit of understanding from the masses would be really helpful, not the ****ty '**** you' attitude
A bit of 'oh my kids are healthy, but what about other kids' would be really ****ing good, for a start
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Cant speak for everyone else but I don't think I have the capacity to think of every unique situation out there, its impossible. That doesn't mean we operate with reckless abandon but decisions are made for the majority that hopefully doesn't negatively effect the minority?
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But what exactly do you expect to happen? Do we shut down the whole of society to protect the weak? How did immune compromised people function in society before hand? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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https://www.health.gov.au/sites/defa...compromise.pdf
This was a surprise to me as all I have heard is people saying that they cannot be immunised due to being compromised, but it seems they need the vaccine more than everyone else. (It is a different matter for children as it has only been the last month or so that ATAGI changed there advice for them). I should read less on social media and listen to doctors more!!!!
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The 3 adult immune compromised women in my family have all received both jabs and 2 of them very very early on - they are now looking for the booster that was talked about last week
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But I am not going to ask for every other kid to miss out to even things up.
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why is it the people on this forum think that being vaccinated makes you immune?
you can/will get it, your vaccination status is irrelevant, you get it your a carrier..
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You are the interesting one.
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how far do I need to go back to find that little gem?
If you think people don't know that here now, you need to stick around a bit more often
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i don't normally come to this thread trev;
only for russ's updated charts.. oh and the post is on the same page..16103
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sorry @russellw, I was posting on here and my favourite (totally unmoderated) American drag racing forum at the same time (2 screens and 2 pages open) and got a bit carried away
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You dont catch Covid, you catch SARS-CoV-2. You may then develop Covid-19. Your chance of catching SARS-CoV-2 is reduced somewhat (less than what was being claimed IMO), but then your chance of developing Covid-19 is significantly reduced. So yes you are 100% correct, though it is a bit like saying motorcycle helmets are no good, because although the save you a lot of the time from brain injury, they do not prevent it completely.
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