Covid 19 -

[Citroënbender]

The ABC is kite-flying early about the (un?)reality of Sydney’s current position being extended into September. A given, for so long as they dream the impossible dream.

[slowsnake]

Watched the "Seekers" on TV few days ago, took me back to a simpler world, a childlike world, but they sung their whole repertoire, and the very poignant "the Carnival is Over"...and folks the Carnival really is over, we are done like a dog's dinner, and all the reality TV fools, on and off screen and those poor folk who think Home and Away and Neighbours is real are in for a shock, but that is the basic mentality of most folk, they believe in faeries and angels, how do you communicate something so complex and destructive as a corona virus to their small selfish minds?


Cheers bWilliam

[buggerlugs]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-...ntry/100329374

[tweeked]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

What do you believe is the difference then between the people of NSW and SA?

1986 - 2020...The mullet never went away in South Australia?

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

What do you believe is the difference then between the people of NSW and SA?

Population density and numbers.

I think each state is fairly equal in compliance with the law and/or ethical standing.

[Citroënbender]

My research is shallow, and the number five years stale:

https://profile.id.com.au/australia/dwellings?WebID=250

Nearly 440 000 residential flats in greater Sydney, in 2016. Extrapolation suggests over 1M of the city’s population are thus contained.

If 75% of those are older buildings with insufficient funds to implement and maintain an “interventionist” Covid management strategy - as in, simply relying on people doing what are considered the right things - that’s a substantial amount of the city’s population at imminent risk of contagion.

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

My research is shallow, and the number five years stale:

https://profile.id.com.au/australia/dwellings?WebID=250

Nearly 440 000 residential flats in greater Sydney, in 2016. Extrapolation suggests over 1M of the city’s population are thus contained.

If 75% of those are older buildings with insufficient funds to implement and maintain an “interventionist” Covid management strategy - as in, simply relying on people doing what are considered the right things - that’s a substantial amount of the city’s population at imminent risk of contagion.

Well we are not unique like that, but, shows how reliance on CBD's is really not a good thing and like any good business diversification is a good policy.

If Australia was any closer to the rest of the world we would be ^%%$'d with our current game plan. But to be fair we could be a bit more choosey and see how other countries were managing it before we adapted which isnt a bad ploy.

Our mistake is solely on the vaccination of the at risk people and its ongoing roll out.

Vaccines are not a golden bullet but it is a way to reduce the severity to the individual and ultimately the spread.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by Polyal

Population density and numbers.

How does population density and numbers in Sydney stack up against Melbourne?

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by Mont5.0

Why isnt Avi wearing a mask?

In one of his other videos he is pulled up for it then released. Press doing their job (reporting) don't need it.

Much like Gladys removes hers when talking on the microphone.

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[Whitey-AMG]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

How does population density and numbers in Sydney stack up against Melbourne?

As per the ABS

Australia's population density at June 2020 was 3.3 people per square kilometre (sq km).

The most densely populated areas were:

inner-city Melbourne (22,400 people per sq km)

Potts Point - Woolloomooloo (16,700) and Pyrmont - Ultimo (16,500), both in inner Sydney


Overall density
Sydney v Melbourne
Area (SYD) 2,037km2 (MEL) 2,542km2
Pop. per km2 (SYD) 1,900 (MEL) 1,500

[ford71V8]

Originally Posted by Mont5.0

Why isnt Avi wearing a mask?

Like he likes to point out, when he is working with the mic he is not required to wear one.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by Whitey-AMG

As per the ABS

Australia's population density at June 2020 was 3.3 people per square kilometre (sq km).

The most densely populated areas were:

inner-city Melbourne (22,400 people per sq km)

Potts Point - Woolloomooloo (16,700) and Pyrmont - Ultimo (16,500), both in inner Sydney


Overall density
Sydney v Melbourne
Area (SYD) 2,037km2 (MEL) 2,542km2
Pop. per km2 (SYD) 1,900 (MEL) 1,500

Thanks.

So we see Melbourne's inner city not only has the highest population density in the country, it is also on par for total number of people at 3.8m over the given area

So considering the two cities are very close on that front, what's the difference between NSW and Victoria?

[Work Horse]

Originally Posted by ford71V8

Catching up on some of the footage Avi has put up and recognised this woman in one of his vids
@2mins and @4.20mins, I reckon thats her

Well spotted, that 'small business owner', Carly Soderstrom went bankrupt in 2019 not Covid lockdown related. She owes creditors over $400,000. She took over $60 000 from people who fell for her lockdown bankrupt Viral BS through a GoFundMe page.

One of the other women only set up shop 18months ago and blames lockdowns for her small business failure. She set up an events hire business at the start of a pandemic! I'm sorry for her but it was just really bad luck.

Rebel News is like a Canadian version of Fox news. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but just so we realise they have a far right agenda. So when he says 'just the facts', you have to take it with a handful of salt..

[russellw]

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT July 28th 2021.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting.

208 new cases for Australia and 0 deaths so the CMR is 2.751%.

1 new case and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 0.908%.

The UK had a higher 25,402 cases yesterday and lower 127 deaths for a CMR of 2.243%.

A higher 77,825 new cases in the USA yesterday and higher 603 deaths sees CMR at 1.773% and there was also a +33,758 adjustment in overall case numbers.

Other notable points:
Global deaths pass 4.2M, the last 50k in 6 days;
Global cases pass 196M, the last 1M in 2 days;
Yesterday was the first day over 600k cases since May 21st;
Asia passes 61M cases;
Europe passes 51M cases;
Oceania passes 100k cases;

Laos (280);
Eswatini (539);
Algeria (1,927);
South Korea (1,896);
Mozambique (2,460);
Kazakhstan (6,925) - the 7th consecutive day;
Morocco (9,428);
Cuba (9,323);
Iraq (13,515);
Bangladesh (16,230);
Thailand (16,533); and
Malaysia (17,405)

... recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

Sri Lanka moves above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period while no countries drop below.

[tweeked]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Thanks.

So we see Melbourne's inner city not only has the highest population density in the country, it is also on par for total number of people at 3.8m over the given area

So considering the two cities are very close on that front, what's the difference between NSW and Victoria?

The overall figures are similar, but Sydney has far more 1960 - 1990 suburban apartments (6-50 dwellings - more like flats)

Melbourne has had a huge surge in the last 15 years of large residential projects of 50 to 2000(!) apartments mainly concentrated in the CBD and Southbank.

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by tweeked

The overall figures are similar, but Sydney has far more 1960 - 1990 suburban apartments (6-50 dwellings - more like flats)

Melbourne has had a huge surge in the last 15 years of large residential projects of 50 to 2000(!) apartments mainly concentrated in the CBD and Southbank.

Id plainly suggest that VIC has been more trigger happy and is more practiced with how a lock down works.

As the NSW gov has been a bit defiant (I actually approve of the strategy) then this is really the first "major" lockdown they have had and they are learning the hard way.

There is no rocket science here.

[FairmontGS]

Originally Posted by russellw

The UK had a higher 25,402 cases yesterday and much higher 603 deaths for a CMR of 2.243%.

A higher 77,825 new cases in the USA yesterday and lower 107 deaths sees CMR at 1.773% and there was also a +33,758 adjustment in overall case numbers.

UK 603 deaths yesterday?

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by Polyal

Id plainly suggest that VIC has been more trigger happy and is more practiced with how a lock down works.

As the NSW gov has been a bit defiant (I actually approve of the strategy) then this is really the first "major" lockdown they have had and they are learning the hard way.

There is no rocket science here.

If we were talking about any other topic then I'd say fair enough, but this is Covid Delta.
That hundreds died in Victoria as a result of the less transmittable original strain would suggest that how Victoria has handled it and subsequent outbreaks would be the absolute standard.
To 'learn the hard way' is to not only gamble with lives, but to sacrifice lives in order to test your method.
That is a disgrace and something that should be held accountable for.

You're right though, its not rocket science, its logic.

This recent suggestion from Gladys and co. That spread is happening between people in essential areas is hardly believable.
Unless they are checking receipts for proof of essential activity then how can you prove Joe Blogger wasnt shopping for non essentials when they caught it.

On top of that, throughout all the previous lockdowns not once have I read of a suggestion that the continued spread was from essential activity until now. It is clearly a contrived narrative again designed to suggest it would be spreading no matter how much harder or earlier they went despite the results from similarly high density populated areas interstate suggesting otherwise.

The only thing different between NSW and Victoria is that Victoria didnt have the luxury of prior example of how to handle it swiftly, they lost hundreds of lives to show the rest of us how NOT to do it.
They learnt, we learnt, NSW...

[John 13]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

My research is shallow, and the number five years stale:

https://profile.id.com.au/australia/dwellings?WebID=250

Nearly 440 000 residential flats in greater Sydney, in 2016. Extrapolation suggests over 1M of the city’s population are thus contained.

If 75% of those are older buildings with insufficient funds to implement and maintain an “interventionist” Covid management strategy - as in, simply relying on people doing what are considered the right things - that’s a substantial amount of the city’s population at imminent risk of contagion.

While the proportion of the Perth population living in blocks of flats/units is no where near that of the major Australian capitals it is significant. This type of housing is increasingly being built in lower market inner suburbs of Perth. The problems associated with this type of development were highlighted by Bill Ranfolph UNSW in his article published 23/8/17. He used the terms "Investor grade product" and "Vertical slums", the term Covid Castles may now also be appropriate.

[BENT_8]

Just so people understand why im so filthy with the NSW government, right now 6 million NSW residents are in lockdown, **** loads of them are eligible for the federal governments handouts and will be at a greater rate until they get their **** sorted out.

We here in SA went into lockdown for 7 days due to the Delta strain escaping NSW, my industry has been smashed once again and whilst Scomo's financial offerings will cover that 1 week, my industry will take weeks to return to normal.

I was given notice yesterday that Schools wont be arranging competition sports before 11/8, so there will be no income for me whilst that is the case, nor can i claim any ongoing financial assistance from Scomo as we're no longer in lockdown.
So whilst you mob continue to get 'financial assistance' despite ****ing up, i get nothing and will get nothing until late August when i finally get an income again.

[snap0964]

[BENT_8]

Have a read of this, Glady's suggests this is the 'harshest lockdown conditions Australia has ever seen'
Who writes this womans ****, fair dinkum.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-...ered/100332578

You cant travel more than 5km's for essential needs, unless you cant get them within 5km's, cue everyone who conveniently cant get what they need within 5km's to do as they please.

You cant travel more than 5km from home for exercise, we couldn't travel more than 2.5kms from home to exercise.

Yeaah, real harsh..

[russellw]

Originally Posted by FairmontGS

UK 603 deaths yesterday?

Sorry - got the UK and the USA swapped around! Should be 127 for the UK and 603 for the USA.

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

I'm wondering if Sydney numbers will pass 200 in the coming days after the shenanigans over the weekend?

I'm in Sydney, smack bang in the middle of one if the LGA's ordered to stay home.

There are noticeably less people out and about. Perhaps the message is finally sinking in??

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Only took 2 days to hit 239...

And more restrictions for those in certain LGA's.

Does Gladys realise she is aspiring for expectations that are impossible to achieve?

No worries. Just keep throwing money on a forest fire in the hope enough will smother it.

This is how serious our government is on getting everyone vaccinated..

The hours of the Mass Vaccination Hub at Homebush:

Hours of operation
Sunday – 9am to 5pm
Monday – 8am to 8pm
Tuesday – 8am to 8pm
Wednesday – 8am to 8pm
Thursday – 8am to 8pm
Friday – 8am to 8pm
Saturday – 8am to 8pm

Why the hell is this facility not 24 hrs?? I've gone past it a few times and there is always long lines snaking all around the block.

But... it's not a race... I shouldn't complain, there are people far far worse off than me but I'm getting sick of this treatment.

What will happen some time in 2030 when we decide to open borders and we are at 50% vaccination and daily numbers are in the thousands like other countries??

According to current logic we will be in lockdown... forever.

[cs123]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

According to current logic we will be in lockdown... forever.

How's the vibe there. As an outsider it seems they are doing much the same thing day in, day out and expecting a different outcome.

Or they are holding the fort and hoping the vaccine is the pathway out.

[FTE217]

YT, whilst I agree with you places like the chemists and all should have been given the clearance months ago.
Just to give you some feedback having a doctor nearby and I quickly got a test done in my area yesterday arvo.

The Doc telling me people are not getting/or even thinking how much burn out our Docs/nurse's, in clinics/testing stations etcetc are breaking down.
Like all of us, life is covid this covid that, news/radio in daily lives.
So we need to give those in the front line some slack, they are working hard.
Thats every State obviously when under the pump.
What 85000 tests a day right now.
So just a thought, some may say get the forces in to back up.
Hey not our call but you'd think why isn't it considered.

I went to get a test by 4pm yesterday just to be sure to be sure, I got my Negative SMS around 11.30pm last night.
I thought wow they are pumping these out, how long hours do these Labs run for and staff, I heard we have been flying some interstate its that many.

[Citroënbender]

Yes, you’re so right about the stress on all of them. I’ve this week experienced doctors and pharmacists almost in tears; surely this constant grind will manifest eventually as trauma.

[xkxlxm]

Regarding: "harshest lockdown conditions Australia has ever seen" mentioned by BENT_8. I heard her say that today. Has any part of Sydney had a night time curfew? Melbourne had one starting at 8pm but I can't remember how long it went for.

This might be a bit controversial, but I find it hard to view the NSW Premier as the kind of authority figure needed in this situation.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by FTE217

YT, whilst I agree with you places like the chemists and all should have been given the clearance months ago.
Just to give you some feedback having a doctor nearby and I quickly got a test done in my area yesterday arvo.

The Doc telling me people are not getting/or even thinking how much burn out our Docs/nurse's, in clinics/testing stations etcetc are breaking down.
Like all of us, life is covid this covid that, news/radio in daily lives.
So we need to give those in the front line some slack, they are working hard.
Thats every State obviously when under the pump.
What 85000 tests a day right now.
So just a thought, some may say get the forces in to back up.
Hey not our call but you'd think why isn't it considered.

I went to get a test by 4pm yesterday just to be sure to be sure, I got my Negative SMS around 11.30pm last night.
I thought wow they are pumping these out, how long hours do these Labs run for and staff, I heard we have been flying some interstate its that many.

Well said. Sometimes it gets forgotten that the clinics and labs etc are all run by humans, who are dealing with covid just like everyone else.

Also the constant demanding for vaccine rates to improve... You can't supply what you don't have. Some people just need to take a breath and a step back.

[T3rminator]

They are really going for gold here. Its one thing to get ADF to man borders and hotel quarantine, but its another to get them to walk the streets to enforce lock down? What country do we live in again?

And didn't the feds previously refuse ADF support for Vic to enforce public health orders, because they had "no legal authority". What has changed?

NSW Police request ADF help to crack down on COVID-19 compliance in Sydney
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-...help/100334878

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Just so people understand why im so filthy with the NSW government, right now 6 million NSW residents are in lockdown, **** loads of them are eligible for the federal governments handouts and will be at a greater rate until they get their **** sorted out.

Fully understand. There are many people who are filthy mate. I got no beef with the people who are getting support if they are unfortunate enough to need it, but to announce an increase on the day that SA and Vic came out of lock down is pretty slimey. Does the new rate apply retrospectively for SA and Vic residents?