Covid 19 -

[russellw]

Asia

Likewise, some countries case numbers per 100k of population have increased substantially including: Thailand (165), Iran (310), Malaysia (412), Kuwait (528), Bangladesh (948) and Cyprus (1,068).

The trends show very mixed results. Amongst the largest group, I've actually taken Indonesia out of the graph as the trend is so steeply high that it makes the rest hard to see but the remainder are mostly trending downward except for Bangladesh.



The next group are also all downward trending apart from Kazakhstan:



.. and a similar story for the smallest group with only the UAE and Kyrgyzstan trending upward.



Individual countries:

[T3rminator]

Source of the leak to tiktok man has been busted. I'm guessing they used the good old Tyrion Lanister, Game of Thrones, trickery!

Originally Posted by cs123

IMO it's a pretty dangerous time as people can be infectious without any symptoms and can easily spread it.

Agree 1000%. There needs to be a plan to vaccinate all states at around the same rate before opening up. We can't have one state opening up faster, putting everyone else at risk.

[Trevor 57]

https://youtu.be/gE0Xf3cHJ58

[russellw]

Africa

The last 10 days have highlighted some countries where case numbers per 100k of population have increased substantially including: Libya (361), South Africa (401), Namibia (684) and Tunisia (862)

Below are the trend graphs for Africa with the first group (those with the highest case numbers) both heading in the wrong direction again.



The remaining group is a mixed bag with mostly upward trends except for Ethiopia and Kenya.



Individual countries:

[Citroënbender]

I read today, that it’s being implied one target of the NSW Government’s current restrictions is to achieve a vaccination rate of 80% or greater. I don’t know if that’s of gross population or eligible adults. Either way, it’s - as Sir Humphrey once said “courageous”.

[tweeked]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

Source of the leak to tiktok man has been busted. I'm guessing they used the good old Tyrion Lanister, Game of Thrones, trickery!



Agree 1000%. There needs to be a plan to vaccinate all states at around the same rate before opening up. We can't have one state opening up faster, putting everyone else at risk.

Well I say Valar morghulis to that!!!!!

6 States are following the plan to a certain extent, with between 40 and 52% total shots compared to total population.

1 state isn't, no prize for guessing which state thinks locking everyone out is the answer. 27% for them. So I say let them keep digging their iron ore and McGowan can sit on his iron throne worried about walkers from East of the wall. In the rest of the country, if you cant get Pfizer, see your GP and get AZ!! Or stay at home for the long winter.

Shameless multiple Game of Thrones references in my open up when the rest of the country is at 70% opinion.

[russellw]

Miscellaneous

The global CMR is up slightly this last fortnight to 2.147%, with 82 countries having worsened CMRs during the last fortnight.

In total 219 countries have now had at least one case and only 13 of those haven't had a fatality while 33 countries have a CMR over 3%, led by Peru with 9.034%.

9 countries have less than 10 cases per 100k of population but they are mostly tiny island nations while 147 countries have more than 500 cases / 100k of population with Bahrain (15,742), Czechia (15,603) and Montenegro (16,207) leading the way amongst the more populated countries. There are several others over 10k/100k including Lithuania (10,276), the Netherlands (10,496), the USA (10,562),Argentina (10,524), Aruba (10,518), Sweden (10,835), Uruguay (10,906), Luxembourg (11,623), Slovenia (12,419) and the Maldives ( 14,037) - only counting countries with more than 1M of population.

39 countries have less than 2 deaths per 100k of population while 89 countries have more than 50 deaths per 100k, led by: Peru (591), Hungary (310), Bosnia (294), Czechia (283), North Macedonia (263), Bulgaria (261), Montenegro (258), Brazil (255), Slovakia (229), Colombia (228), Argentina (224), Belgium (217), Slovenia (212), Italy (211) and Croatia (200).

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

Source of the leak to tiktok man has been busted. I'm guessing they used the good old Tyrion Lanister, Game of Thrones, trickery!

Oh do tell! I have been away from the wireless all day.

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

Oh do tell! I have been away from the wireless all day.

After 5 successful "calculations" in a row, he got today wrong. He called 105, but today was 98. I didn't watch the presser, but workmate told me NSW Health was asked if there was a sting set up to catch the leak. NSW Health denied there was one set up. There has been lots of rumours swirling around the use of tiktok guy. Some even linked him with GB, suggesting it was a way to soften the blow of the message, or to take attention away from the current crisis i.e. get everyone talking about tiktok guy rather than the case numbers. Some say he has been using the CovidSafe app which provides some details that you can use to calculate the numbers. All rumours and conjecture with no evidence.

Anyhow, he is now claiming that the numbers published today by NSW Health are "incorrect" and has been deliberately changed to discredit him. Sounds like a looney?

My theory - they fed a bunch of suspected leakers with different incorrect numbers. So when tiktok guy published 105, they know who leaked it to him. The Tyrion Lanister trick!

[Citroënbender]

A bit sad that catching the leaker is more important than many other jobs for the incumbents.

And it looks like the “hang ‘em high” crowds calling for blood of the infamous Molong removalists, have one corpse as a consequence. Also a bit sad.

[b0son]

Why would anyone believe anything other than it being leaked? The formulas/diagrams he had on his whiteboard didnt even correspond to anything that could plausibly be linked to a case count calculation. It just looked something he got off a scene from Good Will Hunting.

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

South Aus joining NSW and Vic by introducing Level 4 restrictions (not a lockdown).

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

I didn't want to put a political spin on it. Deliberately left it open ended so that those who sought the answers could see for themselves. 100% of the deaths occurred in privately operated aged care under the federal jurisdiction. ZERO in public state operated aged care....ZERO. Chance or coincidence? It wasn't until Vic Gov sent in their staff, even though they were not authorised to do so, that things started to change.

Also have a look at the concentration of aged care services and beds per state, Victoria is by far the most vulnerable in this area. Hence why we can't gamble with the outbreaks. IMHO.

I know the Feds are responsible for aged care residents but aged care facilities are also subject to the public health laws of their host state or territory, so state governments retain some responsibility for residents.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by Officemanager

I know the Feds are responsible for aged care residents but aged care facilities are also subject to the public health laws of their host state or territory, so state governments retain some responsibility for residents.

but not the processes they are registered under - nice try to deflect

My wife works in home based child care and she works under the Federal rules

The Feds have let the system down, no walking away from that

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

but not the processes they are registered under - nice try to deflect

My wife works in home based child care and she works under the Federal rules

The Feds have let the system down, no walking away from that

Accept the truth Trevor, no need to go in denial.
BTW I never denied the Feds let the system down just saying Danny boy also contributed.

[pottery beige]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

A bit sad that catching the leaker is more important than many other jobs for the incumbents.

And it looks like the “hang ‘em high” crowds calling for blood of the infamous Molong removalists, have one corpse as a consequence. Also a bit sad.

im not sad

[snap0964]

[Citroënbender]

I really hope these seemingly-endless loops tonight from around Gladesville to Dundas by Polair, are part of a one-off activity and not the “new normal”.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by snap0964

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there is a lot of that going on

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by Officemanager

Accept the truth Trevor, no need to go in denial.
BTW I never denied the Feds let the system down just saying Danny boy also contributed.

of course they had nothing else to worry about?

All States stepped up to cover the Feds **** for quarantine

All States stepped up to help with the vaccine roll-out

All States were busy managing their States issues and now you are saying they should have stepped up and looked after another Federal responsibility - seriously? Get your ScoMo blinkered glasses off

ScoMo has a history of this - holidaying in Hawaii while the Eastern half of Australia was on fire - there is a saying 'couldn't organise a r*** in a b*****' and it fits here

[slowsnake]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

I really hope these seemingly-endless loops tonight from around Gladesville to Dundas by Polair, are part of a one-off activity and not the “new normal”.

They looking for YOU.....
They were informed a certain person has been working undercover of darkness, rewiring a building, breaking the contractors curfew!.. lol..


Cheers Officer Stedenko

[tweeked]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

of course they had nothing else to worry about?

All States stepped up to cover the Feds **** for quarantine

All States stepped up to help with the vaccine roll-out

All States were busy managing their States issues and now you are saying they should have stepped up and looked after another Federal responsibility - seriously? Get your ScoMo blinkered glasses off

ScoMo has a history of this - holidaying in Hawaii while the Eastern half of Australia was on fire - there is a saying 'couldn't organise a r*** in a b*****' and it fits here

No, anyone who actually reads what he said without blinkers on can see he is not saying that.

Dan let the zombies out of quarantine with absolute incompetence.

The Feds let the zombies then get into Federally run nursing homes with absolute incompetence.

They are both equally culpable. If either of them did a good job it would not have happened that way.

[LG17]

I'm over all the blaming of different states and Commonwealth.
It doesn't help the situation at all.
All I want is the Commonwealth, states and territories to work together and find a workable solution.
No one of them is to take the credit. It should just be a collective agreement.

[Yellow_Festiva]

I think we will need to face the reality that soon enough EVERY one of us will get Covid.

Looking at what has happened in the UK, Israel, USA, Canada, Germany etc

All around or past 50% vaccination. All with large numbers being found every day.

Daily numbers in the hundreds or thousands. They had a great head start, they had a far greater infection rate pre vaccination (population with possibly more natural immunity?) yet they have faced the reality that total eradication is never going to happen.

Singapore no longer lists new Covid cases apparently, but rather deaths - makes sense seeing as the numbers alone play mind games and cause unnecessary fear and social tension.

Our government is striving for an impossible target, perhaps they are trying to save face after their recent fall from grace. Who the hell knows?

Continual lock downs, population control and 'expert advice' has caused nothing but personal and financial destruction to a huge percentage of our population.

I hate to say it but this madness has to stop before we are already more rooted than we already are.

[FTE217]

Originally Posted by LG17

I'm over all the blaming of different states and Commonwealth.
It doesn't help the situation at all.
All I want is the Commonwealth, states and territories to work together and find a workable solution.
No one of them is to take the credit. It should just be a collective agreement.

spot on and thats what should be discussed not bringing up a politcal slanging match due to differing opinions and agendas for thats what would happen.
They ALL have failed (mind you who read the rule book/instruction manual how to deal with a covid19 in 2020) let alone its showing up the constitution is out of date under National attack, be it a germ let alone imagine a proper ol school land invasion.
We'd be stuffed.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

Singapore no longer lists new Covid cases apparently, but rather deaths - makes sense seeing as the numbers alone play mind games and cause unnecessary fear and social tension.

I like that thinking

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

I hate to say it but this madness has to stop before we are already more rooted than we already are.

I agree

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by FTE217

let alone its showing up the constitution is out of date

I am not sure about that, I think the Constitution is fine the way it is - do you want the Feds to over-rule the States? Really?

It has highlighted to the uneducated about how our Constitution works - my kids thought that the Feds ruled over the States, this has certainly educated them on how it really works and on some issues where the power sits and that education is a good thing

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

of course they had nothing else to worry about?

All States stepped up to cover the Feds **** for quarantine

All States stepped up to help with the vaccine roll-out

All States were busy managing their States issues and now you are saying they should have stepped up and looked after another Federal responsibility - seriously? Get your ScoMo blinkered glasses off

ScoMo has a history of this - holidaying in Hawaii while the Eastern half of Australia was on fire - there is a saying 'couldn't organise a r*** in a b*****' and it fits here

Trevor you are being irrational and showing your political bias, keep to the facts and one of those facts is Daniel Andrews stuffed up.
Why do you think Daniel and his government ministers had memory loss to the Coats sham inquiry and not one of them had the guts to put their hand up to take responsibility.

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

Singapore no longer lists new Covid cases apparently, but rather deaths - makes sense seeing as the numbers alone play mind games and cause unnecessary fear and social tension.

I was going to mention the other day that eventually, once we achieve sufficient levels of vaccination, we'll let Covid do it's thing and run through our community and recording of cases will not mean a lot. Not dissimilar to influenza. However, I did a bit of research and see that the medical community still record the number of positive influenza cases, so didn't post anything.

But, I do see a point in time where the medical community may still record the number of Covid infections, but both the general community and the media will lose interest in it, as it probably has little relevance for the average person.

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

Our government is striving for an impossible target, perhaps they are trying to save face after their recent fall from grace. Who the hell knows?

Continual lock downs, population control and 'expert advice' has caused nothing but personal and financial destruction to a huge percentage of our population.

I hate to say it but this madness has to stop before we are already more rooted than we already are.

If we had a sufficient level of vaccination, then I'd agree with the above completely. But whilst our vaccination rates are so low and the potential impact upon our hospital capacity and death rates are high, I don't see that we have much other choice. Lockdowns, financial, social and mental health impacts may not be pleasant, but I think things would be far worse if we were to allow the virus to run rampant with such low vaccination rates as we have atm.

On another note, I see that Queensland has recorded one locally acquired case today. A female who studies in Melbourne. Of most concern, she was in the community whilst infectious. This has the potential to gather momentum for Queensland.

E: Interesting to hear that she was fully vaccinated with Pfizer, too.
2E: And visited Cairns and dined out in Mooloolaba whilst infectious.

[slowsnake]

Originally Posted by LG17

I'm over all the blaming of different states and Commonwealth.
It doesn't help the situation at all.
All I want is the Commonwealth, states and territories to work together and find a workable solution.
No one of them is to take the credit. It should just be a collective agreement.

We should all move to the "Big Rock Candy Mountain" then!...its a brilliant fantastical world conjured up by an American musician named Harry McClintock, way back in the 1920's...must of had similar issues then too!


Cheers Billy