Commodore Anyone? - Page 4

**russellw** · 25-05-2013, 10:47 AM

In one word, no.

We'll be fortunate enough to update both current daily drivers before 2016 comes along so that defers the decision until 2020 at least. Certainly the FG will be likely replaced with another Falcon based equivalent but the Territory is already under review in favour of an Expedition if they find their way here.

When the next round after that comes we'll look at what is available but another 300C SRT8 would be a starter before anything else.

Cheers
Russ

**Elks** · 25-05-2013, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by stevz

I will believe it when I see it. This is just a BS rumour which has been spread by that airhead J. Dowling.

It's also being spread by Michael Devereux. Chief Executive of Holden, so it's probably true.

svo supporter · 25-05-2013, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BluXR6T

I would probably take you more serious if you didn't have that stupid avatar. Not much else erks me then defaming the FORD badge like that, reminds me of a certain V8 Supercar team with a hog as there badge.

Strangely enough, have you seen where I have said there would be no way I'd have a Ford in my driveway?

BTW, I do actually own a Ford as well as a Commodore, so I'm not biased either way

svo supporter · 25-05-2013, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Auslandau

..... meanwhile the Ford bashing never stopped has it! Checked your avatar lately? Some people here are the king of Ford bashing .......... not pointing fingers or anything .....

.

You of all people know I don't get on here bashing Fords....I have an unbiased opinion towards all makes and models....I own both makes and I fix all makes.....So if anything, I hate them all, but it keeps food on my table and me off the dole.....So I wonder how many ex-Ford employees are going to be less fortunate than me? If it's 1 it's 1 too bloody many...

T4ME · 25-05-2013, 11:06 AM

Want to be part of the problem then buy a non Australian car.....want to be part of the solution....you know the rest

Trek · 25-05-2013, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bigwil

Sounds like you're also describing Collingwood supporters.

They go hand in hand

Failing that, it's also Hawthorn supporters, I've found.

I am still undecided if I would resort to this, as the association with subhumans is something I'd rather avoid.

I still love Ford first and foremost.

Magna · 25-05-2013, 11:13 AM

1 more territory for me before 2016. i'll worry about it after that if there are any locals left.

**ebxr8240** · 25-05-2013, 11:24 AM

Remember when Ford had financial issues BEFORE the financial crisis ??
They changed BEFORE it hit the fan !!!
I think the SAME thing is going on here !!
New cars will be hatch back type cars, small station wagon SUV type were Mum can stuff all her groceries in without issue.. Plus be a $18 - $32K vehicle at that !!!
Two box front wheel drive construction is so much easier, cheaper to make !!
I can [hopefully] see the time when Holden sales people see new Fords driving past there showrooms... Wishing they had changed before Ford ...Ford just MAY have a jump on them ...

AGS302 · 25-05-2013, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by svo supporter

Strangely enough, have you seen where I have said there would be no way I'd have a Ford in my driveway?

BTW, I do actually own a Ford as well as a Commodore, so I'm not biased either way

Did you buy them new?

**Elks** · 25-05-2013, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by svo supporter

Didn't think it'd take long for the Holden bashing to come through......

After some of the crap I've read from Holden supporters this week, it's a resounding NO!

Brazen · 25-05-2013, 11:40 AM

I'm getting a VF in a few weeks time for a week or so, I'm happy to put a few pics up and thoughts.

aZ` · 25-05-2013, 02:07 PM

I own both Holden's and Fords and prefer to support local industry.
But what locally made car is going to tow my two and a half tonne boat?
I hope the Terry is carried right through to 2016 however tipping money into a company that's already bolted seems like a waste.
I already feel betrayed after buying my current Terry.

ryeman · 25-05-2013, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by aZ`

I own both Holden's and Fords and prefer to support local industry.
But what locally made car is going to tow my two and a half tonne boat?
I hope the Terry is carried right through to 2016 however tipping money into a company that's already bolted seems like a waste.
I already feel betrayed after buying my current Terry.

Ranger MPV ?

gtxb67 · 25-05-2013, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Elks

After some of the crap I've read from Holden supporters this week, it's a resounding NO!

it is kind of funny the crap you hear from them while being frustrating at the same time
the funny thing is that for all of ford na's sabotaging of ford aus and receiving half of the money gm aus has, that brand will only manufacture cars for a few short years after ford aus stop . . . . they are in the same situation as ford aus, they just had a bigger fan base to start with
the drop for them is just as sharp as the ford aus drop

it is a major pity as far as jobs go, because it isn't just ford, toyota and the other brand's jobs - it is the suppliers and the knock on effect when so many thousands of people no longer have spending money
not really sure how the government/s allowed this to happen

Gadgetman · 25-05-2013, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

Firstly, I am a Falcon lover and a Ford Man. I have become more entrenched in my devotion as time has gone on.
But at the end of the day, for whatever reason, Ford has chosen to nolonger service my wants, and in doing so has driven another nail into the coffin of Australian manufacturing.
To be honest I hate Holdens, with an irrational passion. I will love and cherish my old Falcons till the day I die.
But for those of us that come to looking at buying a new car in the near future, is it time to start batting for the other team? I don’t know what the future is for Commodore, but assuming for the moment it stays reasonably “Australian,” should we throw our weight behind one of the last vestiges of Australian Auto Manufacturing?
I'm sure many remaining fleet Falcon buyers will now switch.

Nah mate. I just keep buying Falcons. Cant stand the commodore just like I cant stand eating anything but zinger burgers and drinking VB's cause I'm a bogan!

stevz · 25-05-2013, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Elks

It's also being spread by Michael Devereux. Chief Executive of Holden, so it's probably true.

I don't believe Mike Devereux has been spreading it at all. He probably stated that it was one option out of several they may be looking at, but Dowling ran off and began spruiking it as if it was confirmed and set in concrete.

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While he would not reveal any details about the platform or engineering of the next Commodore – including whether it will switch to front-wheel or all-wheel drive – Mr Devereux said that there was never any doubt or debate about the future of the series.

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...257B0C00170587

ryeman · 25-05-2013, 03:21 PM

Since then he's said beyond 2017 nothing is set in stone.

302 XC · 25-05-2013, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TMC

Camrys have the look of a washing machine. Boring, soulless, but reliable. But your nanna will love it.

Not the washing machine maker bashing again ......
Funny part is washing machine or white goods sell
They (toyota) have been in the top seller list for decades,they are on the ball, they make what people buy, boring soulless and reliable cars
(Did I mention better resale, demand and value as well)
Cant argue with the majority wanting washing machines
Soulless, boring,reliable, that's what sells
What are any others offering ???
Nothin, why because they will all be closed soon
So chalk one up to "Washing machine manufacturing"

bigwil · 25-05-2013, 05:17 PM

Has Holden themselves said the VF is the last aussie commodore? If yes any links to that story, or is it just more rubbish from the media.

ryeman · 25-05-2013, 05:23 PM

Michael Devereux said they were committed to the 2017 VJ in April but now says NOTHING is set in stone. I certainly wouldn't bet on it!

Ford17 · 25-05-2013, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ryeman

Michael Devereux said they were committed to the 2017 VJ in April but now says NOTHING is set in stone. I certainly wouldn't bet on it!

I always though Holden in using up the unused Commodore V* model codes (i.e. VE, VF, VJ), which should have otherwise been used in the 1st half of the 1980's, was a sure sign the Commodore wasn't meant to last much longer than ~2009 (after the VE's model life).

If VE Commodores onwards were really meant to last for another decade or so, surely Holden would have started a new model code (eg YA, or AA) for models post the VZ, as they have mostly always done.

To me, using up these stray V* codes seemed to be an inside joke; as if to say this will be the last one.

burnz · 25-05-2013, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bigwil

Has Holden themselves said the VF is the last aussie commodore? If yes any links to that story, or is it just more rubbish from the media.

holden is committed to stay in oz.
but as mike said nothing is set in stone, if the dollar climbs no one buy cars???
gmna pull the plug??

they will stay as long as profitable..

aZ` · 25-05-2013, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ryeman

Ranger MPV ?

Is the Ranger made in Australia? ...

I should have specified, it's the wife's daily, she doesn't want a ute, and a large wagon is far more practical for us, 7 seats etc.

NX74205 · 25-05-2013, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by aZ`

Is the Ranger made in Australia? ...

No but it was designed and engineered here.

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Originally Posted by aZ`

I should have specified, it's the wife's daily, she doesn't want a ute, and a large wagon is far more practical for us, 7 seats etc.

Ranger based 4WD wagon is being developed.

svo supporter · 25-05-2013, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Elks

After some of the crap I've read from Holden supporters this week, it's a resounding NO!

Push came to shove and it was Holden announcing the closure, I'd buy a new Ford just to support local business....

So just showing there is no bias this end.....Can't say there is much the other way.

svo supporter · 25-05-2013, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bigwil

Has Holden themselves said the VF is the last aussie commodore? If yes any links to that story, or is it just more rubbish from the media.

From all reports, they're only saying Holden is committed to manufacturing in Australia til 2022......There has been no reports what model is being built after the VF....After all, you have 2 models being built by Holden....The Commodore and the Cruze....

As long as the commitment is being adheared to, it can only be good news for all Aussies and their jobs....

svo supporter · 25-05-2013, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by gtxb67

it is kind of funny the crap you hear from them while being frustrating at the same time
the funny thing is that for all of ford na's sabotaging of ford aus and receiving half of the money gm aus has, that brand will only manufacture cars for a few short years after ford aus stop . . . . they are in the same situation as ford aus, they just had a bigger fan base to start with
the drop for them is just as sharp as the ford aus drop

it is a major pity as far as jobs go, because it isn't just ford, toyota and the other brand's jobs - it is the suppliers and the knock on effect when so many thousands of people no longer have spending money
not really sure how the government/s allowed this to happen

There are media reports (whether they're believeable or not) that the world wide car manufacturing is propped up by their respective gov'ts....

As to why the Aussie gov't didn't prop Ford Aust as much as Holden....Who knows....That'd be one to ask the gov't officials....

TMC · 25-05-2013, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 302 XC

Not the washing machine maker bashing again ......
Funny part is washing machine or white goods sell
They (toyota) have been in the top seller list for decades,they are on the ball, they make what people buy, boring soulless and reliable cars
(Did I mention better resale, demand and value as well)
Cant argue with the majority wanting washing machines
Soulless, boring,reliable, that's what sells
What are any others offering ???
Nothin, why because they will all be closed soon
So chalk one up to "Washing machine manufacturing"

Washing machine washing machine washing machine.

TheZHLANE · 26-05-2013, 10:27 AM

Does this mean we will get the mustang at a similar price to the yanks? 55k gt500 anyone?

anto · 26-05-2013, 10:50 AM

Not likely my friend