Earthquake Japan

[pulpist]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

Nasty turn of events. Whatever the Japanese government says is likely to be less than the real scale of the disaster.

I don't think they would, not under such close scrutiny from the nuclear authorities who are monitoring this situation closely, and the rest of the world, who are, like you and me, glued to their TVs

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by pulpist

I have a sneaking suspicion he will be standing on a Japanese street on Monday morning wearing the regulation Akubra and Driza-Bone.

ROFL... With John Williamson doing fair dinkum Aussie voice overs?

[CJR09]

source - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...-live-coverage


The latest from the Fukushima reactors is that the government is now saying that there has been "no radioactive leak so far" at the nuclear plants. That seems to contradict an earlier statements by Japan's nuclear safety agency and the Tokyo Electric Power company.

[bungarra]

Originally Posted by CJR09

source - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...-live-coverage


The latest from the Fukushima reactors is that the government is now saying that there has been "no radioactive leak so far" at the nuclear plants. That seems to contradict an earlier statements by Japan's nuclear safety agency and the Tokyo Electric Power company.

A radioctive leak is classified as release to outside environmental areas. Japanes plants have a recirc loop for air for these types of small releases. The main worry would be nuclear fuel leak not radioctive gas. Radioactive gas breaks up in atmosphere rather quickly, nuclear fuel leaks contaminate anything and everything it touches. Australia has higher back ground radiation levels due to the granite in the ground in lots of areas.

Even if the reactor went to fail point as they can keep coolant levels hig enough the immediate danger would be to the local population unlike Chernobyl which was a dry melt down that became a China Syndrome event, where there is zero cooling and the core melts the reactor and hits ground water causing an explosion.

Hopefully it is only a gas vent leak which is at least fixable and minimal risk to the majority, but I prayer for those that have to repair it.

[mik]

CJR09 if i`m not mistaken the last report in that article was 1.13 am ?

[CJR09]

Originally Posted by mik

CJR09 if i`m not mistaken the last report in that article was 1.13 am ?

yes thats GMT - Japan time = GMT + 9hrs

so that report @ 10.13am Japan time

[mik]

Originally Posted by CJR09

yes thats GMT - Japan time = GMT + 9hrs

so that report @ 10.13am Japan time

ok .......cheers

[pulpist]

172 earthquakes near the epicentre of the 8.9 since the 10th of March.
Average magnitude of 5.4.
That is a lot of energy release.

You can see it's even set off magnitude 6.2 and 5.5 earthquakes on the mainland.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquak...e10/140_40.php

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquak...140_40_eqs.php

[buggerlugs]

Japan's No 1 Nuclear reactor could be in meltdown...........

[Road Games]

Originally Posted by buggerlugs

Japan's No 1 Nuclear reactor could be in meltdown...........

Yep, they are in for a world of hurt... but in a few hours someone will come on here and probably say unsubstantiated rumours...

I simply qouted what I heard last night for instance...

Nothing more nothing less...

Some people need to look at the BIGGER picture surrounding the planet NOT just someone who appears to be wrong on the internet FFS !

[buggerlugs]

Some of the video footage is staggering...........

[oddnutz]

(in Japanese, but with a Google-Translate link) ... Jiji News ...
Primary or core meltdown in the discovery of cesium in the vicinity of the first-Hukushima - NISA
Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry on August 12, the first nuclear power plant damaged by earthquake Toukyoudenryoku Hukuzima East (town Ookuma Fukushima Futaba town) in Unit 1, soluble in hot fuel rods "meltdown" has occurred likely announced.

According to NISA, No. 1 around the detection of radioactive cesium on NIRS team. Cesium is contained in nuclear fuel rods, because of its high melting point, it is estimated that the likely cause meltdown.

http://www.jiji.com/


does not look good if this is correct.


more on the possible meltdown >>>

3:04pm

Japanese nuclear authorities say there is a high possibility that nuclear fuel rods at a reactor at Tokyo Electric Power Company's (TEPC) Fukushima Daiichi plant may be melting or have melted, Jiji news agency reports.

Experts have said that if the fuel rods have been damaged, it means that it could develop into a breach of the nuclear reactor vessel and the question then becomes one of how strong the containment structure around the vessel is and whether it has been undermined by the earthquake – and if it can withstand the likely aftershocks.

You can see a photo of the Fukushima Daiichi plant here. The plant is one of the 25 largest nuclear power stations in the world, has six separate units on site, and lies over 200km north of Tokyo.

For more on the possibility of a nuclear meltdown, see our news story.

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/asia...e#update-10551

[FG XR]

ok so we have QLD and VIC floods, QLD Cat 5 cyclone, riots and unrest in the middle east, massive earth quake in NZ, shortly after another massive quake in Japan, then followed by a Tsunami, NOW another quake in Tonga and NOW a nuclear meltdown in Japan.

Far out are you sure we are not going to be in "doomsday" anytime soon??

[NC1183]

Originally Posted by Nitro XR6

ok so we have QLD and VIC floods, QLD Cat 5 cyclone, riots and unrest in the middle east, massive earth quake in NZ, shortly after another massive quake in Japan, then followed by a Tsunami, NOW another quake in Tonga and NOW a nuclear meltdown in Japan.

Far out are you sure we are not going to be in "doomsday" anytime soon??

Don't forget the massive floods in Brazil, around the same time as the QLD floods

[Road Games]

Originally Posted by Nitro XR6

ok so we have QLD and VIC floods, QLD Cat 5 cyclone, riots and unrest in the middle east, massive earth quake in NZ, shortly after another massive quake in Japan, then followed by a Tsunami, NOW another quake in Tonga and NOW a nuclear meltdown in Japan.

Far out are you sure we are not going to be in "doomsday" anytime soon??

Short answer NO !

Superannuation based on current events wont release our funds anyway ...

[Falc'man]

Originally Posted by Nitro XR6

Far out are you sure we are not going to be in "doomsday" anytime soon??

It is imminent although we haven't seen all it's signs.

[DJM83]

http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/2011...ima120311.html

[FG XR]

yeah and brazil ;/ not good.

Just heard radioactive leaks have being detected at 2 nuclear power plants now and meltdown is already underway but that hasnt being confirmed yet.

[oddnutz]

and lots of fish and bird die offs around the world.

a good site to keep up to date on a lot of this stuff is abovetopsecret, lots bs on there too so do not get to overwhelmed but it is quite a good site for keeping up to date on all this.

[FG XR]

Pics of Tsunami:

Wirlpool:


Imagine seeing this:

[GasoLane]

I'm just waiting for some Greenie to blame it on climate change!

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by GasOLane

I'm just waiting for some Greenie to blame it on climate change!

Not a greenie but maybe they need more funding.

http://www.theage.com.au/environment...413-1ddaw.html

Climate change link to earthquakes
April 13, 2011 - 2:01PM

Long-term climate change could be responsible for moving the Earth's tectonic plates.

A team of scientists based in Australia, France and Germany has established a link between monsoons in India over the past 10 million years and the motion of the Indian plate.

The scientists have found that, as monsoons in the area increased, the plate moved by almost one centimetre a year.
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The researchers say it's the first time climate change has been recognised as having the potential to influence the motion of tectonic plates.

"It is known that certain geologic events caused by plate motions have the ability to influence climate patterns over a period of a million years," Dr Giampiero Iaffaldano from the Australian National University said in a statement.

"Now we know that the opposite holds as well.

"Long-term climate change, or the natural changes in climate patterns over millions of years, can modify the motion of plates in a feedback mechanism."

Dr Iaffaldano said the findings could help to reveal more information about the cause of earthquakes.

"Ultimately, we aim at understanding what caused plate motions to change and which regions are currently more prone to large earthquakes," he said.

"To that end, we may also have to consider the history of climate over the past million years."

Link to the actual paper

AAP

[CJR09]

crazy, from the guardian

An expert from the USGS has told CNN that the quake appears to have moved Japan's main island by 8 feet and shifted the world on its axis.

Originally Posted by GasOLane

I'm just waiting for some Greenie to blame it on climate change!

In light of the seriousness of this disaster there has been talk of a corelation between extreme low and high pressure weather systems putting stain on the earths crust and mantle - obviously this has been touted as been due to climate change (talking extreme high and low systems) - this is not necessarily my belief, just saying it has/is being talked about

[CJR09]

also found this interesting article on Japans quite extraordinary warning system!!


http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente...for_tokyo.html



not good also just reported explosion at Fukushima Daiichi (No 1) reactor

[Jim Goose]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...12/3162450.htm

Explosion heard at quake-hit nuclear plant

Updated 15 minutes ago
The quake-damaged Fukushima nuclear power plant

The quake-damaged Fukushima nuclear power plant in the Japanese town of Futaba (AFP/Jiji Press)

* Related Story: Possible meltdown at Japan nuclear plant
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An explosion has been heard and white smoke can been seen at the quake-hit Fukushima No 1 nuclear power plant in Japan's north, according to local media reports.

Footage on Japanese television showed smoke billowing from plant.

According to public broadcaster NHK, the plant's exterior walls are gone and only the skeleton structure remains.

The broadcaster says several workers were injured in the blast.

Local media also reports that radioactivity at the plant is now 20 times the normal level.

The cooling system of the Fukushima plant was damaged when a massive 8.9-magnitude quake struck the region on Friday.

More than 45,000 residents within a 10-kilometre radius of the plant have been evacuated.

Thousands more have been evacuated from near a second plant, Fukushima No 2, which also suffered damage to its cooling system.

More to come.



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This is not good....

[vanman_75]

Just heard on 7 that there was an explosion at the reactor .....not good

[mik]

was listening to the radio a little while ago they said there is 2 reactors still in danger, hopefully it`s a mistake.

[My poor XF]

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news...-1226020387955

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news...-1226020368329

Not good if true, though no confirmation yet.

[Jim Goose]

Some very umm... weird advice to people!!!

Explosion at quake-hit nuclear plant

Updated 8 minutes ago

PreviousNextSlideshow: Photo 1 of 2
An explosion at the Fukushima No 1 nuclear power plant

The nuclear plant's exterior walls are reportedly gone and only the skeleton structure remains (YouTube: groktheha)

* Related Story: Possible meltdown at Japan nuclear plant
* Related Story: Radioactive steam released from nuclear plants
* Related Story: Japan launches monster rescue effort
* Related Story: Nuclear alert amid devastation in Japan
* Related Link: YouTube: NTV video of Fukushima plant blast

Several workers have been injured in an explosion at the quake-hit Fukushima No 1 nuclear power plant in Japan's north, according to local media reports.

The explosion was heard at 3:36pm (local time) following a series of large tremors at the site.

According to public broadcaster NHK, the plant's exterior walls are gone and only the skeleton structure remains.

Footage on Japanese television shows white smoke billowing from the plant.

Local media reports say radioactivity at the plant is now 20 times the normal level.

Nearby residents are being warned to stay indoors, turn off air-conditioners and not to drink tap water.

If people must go outside, they should avoid exposing their skin and cover their face with masks and wet towels.

Chief cabinet secretary Yukio Edano has held a press conference asking people to remain calm.

The cooling system of the Fukushima plant was damaged when a massive 8.9-magnitude quake struck the region on Friday.

More than 45,000 residents within a 10-kilometre radius of the plant have been evacuated.

Thousands more have been evacuated from near a second plant, Fukushima No 2, which also suffered damage to its cooling system.

The government earlier warned of a meltdown at the No 1 plant, but said the risk of radiation contamination was small.

- AFP/Reuters

Stay home??????

sorry id be leaving the damn country, not wrapping a wet towel over ones face!

[nstg8a]

lol, probably stay home as opposed to grabbing the camera and going for a sticky beak...

but im the same, id be getting the hell out of there before that place becomes the next chernobyl...