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Wow. Are we allowed to be critical yet? Would love to be a fly on the wall at national cabinet this week
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Its probably like NZ ...there excuse for being really slow at vaccination rates is that they signed up for sole use of the Pfizer vac and were supposed to be right out of supply about now , supposed to be a big shipment from Pfizer coming end of july ......probably the same thing happening over there ....they just dont want to admit it ?
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For an example of this, a mate’s 80 year old father had advanced dementia, he had a fall and broke his hip, while laid up he developed pneumonia and in the rehab gym (still being treated for pneumonia) he caught Coronavirus. He died, which was frankly a blessed release. I understand that at the time of his death, it was logged as having died from the virus but that pays no heed to underlying ailments. (This was, however, in the US.)
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Well in that case the virus was clearly what whisked him away, so died of it. Would the pneumonia or dementia have caught up with him? Probably. But they didn't.
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![]() Then this BBC link came up. Sounds like some loonies have taken something that, by itself, is not very controversial, and created some pretty wild dystopian theories. Happy to learn more, but not for this thread. Hope this calms you down ![]() The coronavirus pandemic 'Great Reset' theory and a false vaccine claim debunked https://www.bbc.com/news/55017002
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You’d think some form of asterisk might be appropriate for deaths “with additional complications” that affect mortality. Like how people can plead “guilty with an explanation” in court to driving penalties.
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BBC has gone down the gurgler recently. But you can choose, that or conspiracy groups on Facebook and Twitter. Blue pill or red pill?
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'PURPOSE OF THE DOCUMENT
This document describes certification and classification (coding) of deaths related to COVID-19. The primary goal is to identify all deaths due to COVID-19. A simplified section specifically addresses the persons that fill in the medical certificate of cause of death. It should be distributed to certifiers separate from the coding instructions. DEFINITION FOR DEATHS DUE TO COVID-19 A death due to COVID-19 is defined for surveillance purposes as a death resulting from a clinically compatible illness, in a probable or confirmed COVID-19 case, unless there is a clear alternative cause of death that cannot be related to COVID disease (e.g. trauma). There should be no period of complete recovery from COVID-19 between illness and death. A death due to COVID-19 may not be attributed to another disease (e.g. cancer) and should be counted independently of pre existing conditions that are suspected of triggering a severe course of COVID-19.' https://www.who.int/classifications/...h_COVID-19.pdf
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People need to start challenging, not protesting, ranting and raving, but challenging, even the MSM has started challenging
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WOOPS! Taking bets on when Barilaro gets gagged. And why are these popping up on my google feeds?
![]() Minister Victor Dominello re-enters quarantine after NSW Health admits contact classification error https://www.9news.com.au/national/vi...8-3206d2310aa5 "After reassessing the situation, NSW Health announced on Wednesday evening that Mr Dominello was once again being considered a close contact and he immediately re-entered isolation when contacted by health officials. There was some concern after Mr Dominello appeared alongside Premier Gladys Berejiklian, Health Minister Brad Hazzard and Chief Health Officer Dr Kerry Chant at a press conference in the afternoon." "But for some reason his interaction, which he has admitted to, has been interpreted differently and I think this honestly shows it is a lucky dip ... it depends which contact tracer you get on the end of the phone," Mr Barilaro said.
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Perhaps start another thread and people interested in discussing fringe beliefs will follow. The last thing we want is this thread being clogged up with people regurgitating the same BS over and over...... ![]()
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Has the Feral Garment’s rather expensive Covid app been quietly put out to pasture? You can still download it, but there’s nil mention of it in the everyday media or by state heads.
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![]() Why not challenge, it is what brings the truth out, if we all just trot along like little sheep, we could be being led to the slaughterhouse So I have to listen to your BS over and over, but that is OK? ![]() I have had my first AstraZeneca shot and I will have my 2nd in early August I have no doubt the disease is real, but the pandemic rhetoric is wearing a little thin I am a big believer in lock-downs if they are genuinely worth it - but this latest round . . . . . . . . . . . We needed to lock down in Victoria last year as we were in a spiral (a bit like NSW at the moment). I fully support what the NT Government have done with Alice Springs, there are too many vulnerable people in a small space
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I'm a bit annoyed the amazing headlines I shared this morning are being buried. Maybe that's the conspiracy!
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I am starting to feel like a mushroom. I have been a 'true believer' up until a couple of weeks ago - but I am starting to think there is a bigger game at play here, to what end I don't know, but just a gut feeling My feelings have nothing to do with socialism, communism or any of that conspiracy theory rubbish, but I am feeling there is definitely something going on behind the scenes
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I heard the media question its effectiveness yesterday - seems a bit of a WOFTAM to me - and we have to QR scan into everywhere anyway
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Most likely. It didn’t work very well, most people have deleted it or turned it off, and I suspect the government is hoping that everyone forgets about it and the large expense for something that proved to be useless.
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The federal one's a dead duck, states/territories have there own and want you to use it, in Tas they have even mandated the use of there own over the Fed one....I got 4 now, Qld, NT, Tas and WA....
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My mum got the AZ jabs as she doesnt qualify for the criteria for the pfizer. She had no side effects. Considering a normal flu vaccination knocks her about for a few days afterwards, and all the stuff surrounding the AZ, she has no complaints.
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I doubt that there are any conspiracies. Just lack of coordination between state and federal governments, mistakes, arguing, blaming, excuses and general confusion about rules. They don’t have the time or resources to conspire about anything else.
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