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slowsnake · 08-06-2021, 09:49 AM

Dan Andrews spinal injuries were severe, fractured T7 vertebrae and 5 or 6 broken ribs?..not only is the pain bad but the last thing ya want is stress from outside, a work injury as bad as his would have you off work for maybe 2 or 3 years.
More stress less heal time, if he couldn't do his job before his injury then the chances of performing his duties afterward would be at least 60% less!
Not just physical but the mental stress would be debilitating, he should be left alone to heal, wether you like or dislike the man he needs a long time to heal.

Cheers Billy.

lumen8 · 08-06-2021, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by HIPO

He's being reprogrammed!

He's gone Michael Schumacher for 3 months.

And now this is doing the rounds... tin foil hat on before having a read...

https://cairnsnews.org/2021/06/07/pr...eculation-now/

FPV8U · 08-06-2021, 10:48 AM

And in breaking news it appears they have traced the Delta strain leak from a Victorian quarantine site, not interstate as they had tried to infer, egg on face yet again.

Bossxr8 · 08-06-2021, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by FairmontGS

Quite a lot was learned. Mainly "lift your game, do your job and don't let it happen again"... and it didn't.

Ruby Princess coronavirus inquiry slams 'inexcusable' mistakes made by NSW Health

By Jonathan Hair
Posted Friday 14 August 2020 at 4:34pm, updated Friday 14 August 2020 at 6:23pm

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-...-down/12557714

And was anyone ever held accountable? Seems like every time these inquiries happen no one ever loses their job. Public servants and government employees are untouchable.

No wonder screw ups happen all the time. Why would you care when you will never face repercussions?

Bossxr8 · 08-06-2021, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by FPV8U

And in breaking news it appears they have traced the Delta strain leak from a Victorian quarantine site, not interstate as they had tried to infer, egg on face yet again.

Let's wait for Tickford to come back and tell us that it's impossible for victorian quarantine to make mistakes, because it's gold standard, and how it must be NSW or SA's fault

jmack · 08-06-2021, 10:56 AM

[QUOTE=slowsnake;6587455]Dan Andrews spinal injuries were severe, fractured T7 vertebrae and 5 or 6 broken ribs?..not only is the pain bad but the last thing ya want is stress from outside, a work injury as bad as his would have you off work for maybe 2 or 3 years.
More stress less heal time, if he couldn't do his job before his injury then the chances of performing his duties afterward would be at least 60% less!
Not just physical but the mental stress would be debilitating, he should be left alone to heal, wether you like or dislike the man he needs a long time to heal.

this injury would not stop an egotistical tool like this from fronting the media.the hardest work he does is picking up his bags of cash

**russellw** · 08-06-2021, 10:57 AM

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT June 7th, 2021.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting.

19 new cases for Australia and no deaths so the CMR is 3.014%.

No cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 0.969% and active cases 17.

The UK had a higher 5,584 cases yesterday and 1 death.

10,231 new cases in the USA yesterday and 181 deaths sees CMR at 1.790%.

Other notable points:
Global deaths pass 3.75M, the last 50k in 5 days;
India recorded the first day under 100k cases since April 5th;

Only -
Afghanistan (1,582)

... recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

No countries move above the 90th percentile for their 10 day average and Honduras drops below.

**FairmontGS** · 08-06-2021, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

And was anyone ever held accountable? Seems like every time these inquiries happen no one ever loses their job. Public servants and government employees are untouchable.

No wonder screw ups happen all the time. Why would you care when you will never face repercussions?

There was accountability but no-one lost their job in the end.

https://www.afr.com/politics/berejik...0200817-p55mhh

slowsnake · 08-06-2021, 11:07 AM

Every Australian worker is entitled to compensation and medical treatment, no matter how high up the ladder or how low!
Its a "right" not a privilege, a very hard fought fight for basic rights for every Australian citizen or permanent resident.

His injuries would of been covered privately not through Medicare, he is entitled to pay whilst off work and a right to privacy, that's the law, like it or not!

Cheers Billy.

**Polyal** · 08-06-2021, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by slowsnake

Every Australian worker is entitled to compensation and medical treatment, no matter how high up the ladder or how low!
Its a "right" not a privilege, a very hard fought fight for basic rights for every Australian citizen or permanent resident.

His injuries would of been covered privately not through Medicare, he is entitled to pay whilst off work and a right to privacy, that's the law, like it or not!

Cheers Billy.

What are you on about, no one is disputing he has the "right" for human rights..holy OTT.

What is suspect is the situation is happened, he could easily do a video call now and then etc...you dont see anything odd in how it all went down?

T3rminator · 08-06-2021, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by lumen8

He's gone Michael Schumacher for 3 months.

And now this is doing the rounds... tin foil hat on before having a read...

https://cairnsnews.org/2021/06/07/pr...eculation-now/

They say conspiracy theories often have a 10% truth. But it appears not so this time around. Seriously, if the opposition can't make any headway after all these lock downs, and have to resort to conspiracy theories, there is a massive problem. Personally I would prefer to see two strong parties holding each other accountable.

Ambulance Victoria release statement on Premier Daniel Andrews’ fall after ‘cover-up’ comments
https://7news.com.au/politics/daniel...ents-c-3045355

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"“Ambulance Victoria received a triple zero call for an ambulance at 6.36am on Monday March 9 for a patient who had fall on steps at a house in Sorrento,” it read.

“Based on information provided during the call, the case did not require and immediate lights and sirens (life-threatening emergency response) and the call underwent secondary triage.

“The triage determined that the case was appropriate for ambulance response, and as ambulance was dispatched from the nearest ambulance branch in Sorrento under normal road conditions at 6.47am. The ambulance arrived at 7.01am.

“The patient was assessed by treating paramedics as having suspected fractured ribs and pain relief was provided.

“The patient requested to attend a local hospital in order for the attending crew to remain within the area once cleared from the case.”"

**cs123** · 08-06-2021, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by T3rminator

They say conspiracy theories often have a 10% truth. But it appears not so this time around. Seriously, if the opposition can't make any headway after all these lock downs, and have to resort to conspiracy theories, there is a massive problem. Personally I would prefer to see two strong parties holding each other accountable.

Ambulance Victoria release statement on Premier Daniel Andrews’ fall after ‘cover-up’ comments
https://7news.com.au/politics/daniel...ents-c-3045355

Well that's a boring answer....

**FairmontGS** · 08-06-2021, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by cs123

Well that's a boring answer....

I thought the Cairns News story had more depth

T3rminator · 08-06-2021, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by FairmontGS

I thought the Cairns News story had more depth

Interesting they named the alleged assailant. Defamation suit coming? $$$$$

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Disclaimer
Cairns News- This site is not linked to the Katters Australia Party in any shape or form but we support the common sense KPA policies because they represent the wishes of the majority.

**FairmontGS** · 08-06-2021, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by T3rminator

Interesting they named the alleged assailant. Defamation suit coming? $$$$$

Yeah, I thought that was pretty brave/crazy as well. Maybe the website can't be traced back to any real person/owner.

Citroënbender · 08-06-2021, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FGS

Maybe the website can't be traced back to any real person/owner.

Yes, the usual gutless muck-throwing.

I can accept vanity as a solid reason for Premier Andrews not appearing in the public eye. When my mate was having chemotherapy, he pretty much hid from everyone possible because he didn’t want to be seen as “sick”. It was a big pivot from someone who was on top of video calls and multiple site visits daily.

T3rminator · 08-06-2021, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FairmontGS

Yeah, I thought that was pretty brave/crazy as well. Maybe the website can't be traced back to any real person/owner.

Oh it can be traceable alright. But depending on jurisdiction it can be a lot of effort. This one is registered to US, Arizona

. Even if the owner claims they didn't publish the actual article, they provided the platform, and have some accountability. Sorry, back to Covid.

tweeked · 08-06-2021, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by T3rminator

Oh it can be traceable alright. But depending on jurisdiction it can be a lot of effort. This one is registered to US, Arizona

. Even if the owner claims they didn't publish the actual article, they provided the platform, and have some accountability. Sorry, back to Covid.

Yeah that is some pretty wild stuff being claimed, and very specific. Open and shut case for defamation, there is only one defence that would protect you.

Anyone publishing untrue stuff like that needs to be taken to the cleaners.

lumen8 · 08-06-2021, 02:33 PM

I saw a tweet somewhere... "stockholm syndrome isnt quite the same without Dan"

Funny thing is they were being serious.

**russellw** · 08-06-2021, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tweeked

Yeah that is some pretty wild stuff being claimed, and very specific. Open and shut case for defamation, there is only one defence that would protect you.

Anyone publishing untrue stuff like that needs to be taken to the cleaners.

The only valid defence in this instance is that the accusations are believed to be 'substantially' true as none of the other six defences allowed under the UDL would apply.

The legally murky bit is the 'believed to be' but the standards applied to journalists and other public commentators are more rigorous than they might be for you and I, particularly in terms of the requirement to have pursued reasonably comprehensive checking of the facts before publication.

We've been threatened a few times with actions for defamation over comments made by members in relation to goods and services but when such threats are made we confirm with the OP that the facts are correct and can be backed by documentary evidence and that is probably more checking than we are required to do.

**Polyal** · 08-06-2021, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tweeked

Yeah that is some pretty wild stuff being claimed, and very specific. Open and shut case for defamation, there is only one defence that would protect you.

Anyone publishing untrue stuff like that needs to be taken to the cleaners.

Agreed, its still suss though and the Ambo story is applicable whether he slipped or otherwise.

Back to covid, I am on day 12 and it is horrible, so I feel for the Vics after all the **** taking. Got another test just to be sure and will be free from Friday.

WFH is over rated too.

Itsme · 08-06-2021, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by T3rminator

As a Victorian I'd love to see a royal commission. Heck I'd support a levy to fund it. There would be a lot of sphincter twitching and I reckon you may not get the result you are after.

But, alas, we don't like officials being besmirched so it'll never happen. Tell me, what lessons did we learn out of Ruby Princess "special" commission?

The truth would be a start; I know it would be near impossible getting that from comrade Dans cronies.

**FairmontGS** · 08-06-2021, 05:19 PM

WA expands vaccine rollout to over-30s

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Western Australians aged 30 to 49 will be able to get a COVID-19 vaccination from Thursday, according to WA Premier Mark McGowan, as the state looks to speed up its vaccine rollout.

Premier McGowan said bookings would open today, with vaccinations to start on Thursday.

30-49 year-olds will receive the Pfizer vaccine, while WA residents aged over 50 will be given the AstraZeneca shot, said McGowan.

WA health minister Roger Cook said the state currently has access to 45,500 AstraZeneca vaccines and 107,000 Pfizer vaccines.

He expects 1.2 million more doses of Pfizer and AstraZeneca to be delivered to the state over the next eight weeks.

https://www.afr.com/politics/federal...0210608-p57yyd

zilo · 08-06-2021, 05:48 PM

Good to see Premier Paluszuk getting the Pfizer instead of the povvo vaccine....(she is 51 years old)

Aw shucks it's cause she has to go to the Olympics.

Well..we all got somewhere to go....sounds like preferential treatment, or maybe she just wants something thats actually gunna werk.

Work Horse · 08-06-2021, 06:03 PM

I got the AZ jab last week, on the same day I ran with scissors and went for a swim straight after a big lunch.

I don't care if I live or die...

Citroënbender · 08-06-2021, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Work Horse

…I got the AZ jab last week

Been nice knowing you, tovarishch. On standby for the minyan. :p

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Originally Posted by Aunty

…Victoria's COVID-19 response commander Jeroen Weimar said a positive case attended the vaccination centre yesterday.

Mr Weimar said the person went to have a COVID test and then presented at the vaccination centre, but was told to leave and isolate.

[Source]

I’m starting to think the lockdown will extend at least in some significant form, another fortnight. I’m usually wrong with these predictions.

T3rminator · 08-06-2021, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Citroënbender

.......
I’m starting to think the lockdown will extend at least in some significant form, another fortnight. I’m usually wrong with these predictions.

If you follow past events, without the political blinkers on, the logic to lifting lock down has been pretty consistent. If we get another handful of cases that have known links tomorrow and Thursday, lock down will be lifted 11:59 on Thursday, but many covid safe restrictions to remain i.e. tight gathering rules, masks inside and out, no metro to regional travel etc.

Finally got my appointment, but its a month away, and at the recently reported hotspot

Gonna try to shift it to a better location if I can, Sandown would be preferred, heck I'd even go to Franga if there were doses available.

Work Horse · 08-06-2021, 07:22 PM

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heck I'd even go to Franga if there were doses available.

And I thought I was the risk taker, you are next level bro!

**Charliewool** · 09-06-2021, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by FairmontGS

Victorian liberal demands Premier Daniel Andrews answer questions about his injuries

Ms Staley issued a statement demanding the premier answer questions about the fall and his continued salary while on sick leave.
"Daniel Andrews has been off on sick leave for 91 days. He has continued to be paid as Premier despite not doing the job," the statement read.
"Over his time off he has pocketed over $110,000 ($1209.42 per day) of the taxes paid by the long-suffering people of Victoria."

Ms Staley said she wanted the following questions answered by Mr Andrews before he returns to work.
Who was in the house at the time of the incident?
What is the address of the house where it occurred?
Who owns the property?
What time was an ambulance called?
Who called the ambulance?
What time did the ambulance arrive?
Which ambulance station was the ambulance dispatched from?
Who made the decision to take the Premier to Peninsula Private?
Were the police contacted?
Did the police attend?
Has Daniel Andrews been interviewed either formally or informally by the police in relation to anything that occurred over that long weekend?

https://www.9news.com.au/national/li...4-a26dfeb8a355

And not the first time Louise Staleys had a crack at Andrews (and Fox) relationship!
Some VERY large brown paperbags for Avalon Quarantine?

https://amp.news.com.au/finance/busi...f1ac2d693f7c04

oldel · 09-06-2021, 01:05 AM

Never heard of her so I had to look at pre covid info. Previous career in finance. Won her seat by 15 votes.
Seems normal, out for blood to save themselves...

Could save the embarrassment. I don't think Dan is going for re-election* - he's done. If he does embarrass himself by running then the opposition should go all out. But them trying it on now is just fail.
*I think that's why he's talking extended leave, to set up his successor, but whoopsie, new outbreak. Whoopsie 2 different outbreaks. Point is Dan already fell on his sword and was probably intending a successful handover of a covid free Vic to the acting prem to ensure a labor win next state election.