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Just had a quick Google and yes that is the reports. The good thing is we have licence to produce AZ vaccine here for ourselves and potentially more.
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Would you prefer to use Xmas island, Manus Island or maybe we could use Nauru which I think the answer would be "No" I don't think we need to alienate returning people by imposing them to isolated areas. |
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Data valid as at 00:00 GMT February 5th, 2021.
Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting. 4 new cases for Australia and no deaths so the CMR is 3.152%. 2 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.080% and active cases 62. The UK had 19,114 cases yesterday and 1,014 deaths. Just over 130k new cases in the USA yesterday and 3,668 deaths sees CMR up to 1.712%. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences. Other notable points: Global deaths pass 2.3M, the last 50k in 3 days; Only: Albania (1,089) ... recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.
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Data valid as at 00:00 GMT February 6th, 2021.
Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting. 6 new cases for Australia and no deaths so the CMR is 3.151%. No new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.080% and active cases 62. The UK had 18,262 cases yesterday and 828 deaths. Just under 132.5k new cases in the USA yesterday and 3,665 deaths sees CMR up to 1.717%. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences. Other notable points: (weekend reporting) Global cases pass 106M, the last 1M in 2 days; Europe passes 31M cases. Only: Albania (1,130) - for the 6th consecutive day ... recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.
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Because it was so distinctly impacted by coronavirus, the current outbreak of professional tennis in Australia probably belongs in this thread, not the Sports Bra.
I have to ask, looking at the trophy wielded by Ms Barty for winning the Yarra Valley Classic - what was the creator thinking? It looks like a sucking-pig, needing only the apple in its mouth and a bed of roast vegetables surrounding. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-...final/13130124 |
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DIY Tragic
Join Date: Apr 2018
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So… The merry-go-round has fired up again in NSW and Victoria. Where did they go, is anyone else infected?
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It'll keep happening. We are playing a game of chance. Hotels are not quarantine facilities. Come winter our odds might be different.
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And we might need to start considering 21 days quarantine like some other places have been doing. And jab all hotel staff with the vaccine that reduces transmission.
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I’m puzzled why staff are not semi-quarantined themselves, to form more manageable “cells”. And further why it’s still OK for some to work multiple jobs.
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Only hotel staff involved in quarantine can't work multi jobs. This is a support worker. Workers like GPs can still work multi jobs. Gov can't pay their full wage.
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First you have to transport everyone there. That means a multitude of bus drivers, extra flights etc. Then you need to house all for the workers that will service the site. Are they going to live there too? Then you have to transport them out at some stage - more transport workers. Quarantine will never be perfect. This is the next couple of years. Test everyone that works there every day, no second jobs, move anyone who tests positive immediately to a hot facility. Anyone whose condition deteriorates should not be on Christmas Island or the like. The current system keeps them close to the required medical support. That is as good as it can be.
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Remote mining camps, offshore Christmas Islands, etc, etc. Every time you move someone with the plague you open up risk. The further the distance, the more people involved, the greater the risk. Hotels at the airports are the least risk - walk off plane and across the road to your room.
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apart from likely being cold and wet, I can't see it happening anyway. there's enough upset over the Tennis.
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I get what you are saying but you then have x amount of people to run the place working back to back. They all get vaccinated etc first, yes you run the risk of them bring it back but I would have thought thats better than having these facilities in our CBDs... Im sure we can set up make shift medical facilities on the islands etc..maybe we should just label all incoming flights refuges and that will get them on an island for sure ![]() edit: this would have to be something led by the feds too IMO
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Absolutely agree the Feds should do it. The problem with this they would need all of the States to agree and accept how it is being done.
But so far that has been like herding cats.
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The other thing with hotel quarantine, no one is catching it walking past the hotel. It is staff when they go home, have a family gathering, go to a cafe. So it is actually no different than if it was somewhere out of the city. Those people will still go home, have a family gathering, go to a cafe.
Unless you lock up the staff for two years, remote quarantine is actually totally ineffective. It will just make people feel safer. But they wont be.
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id alse think if the qarentining procedure had been totally isolated then we wouldnt have had state lockdowns which the stated did want control off and lastly i feel with the loss of taxes and the amount of cash they spent in to the comunity due to covid , doing qarintening isolated ivrecon would have been cheaper and the broader comunity would have kept nirmal lifes , as we didnt have it here we brought it in from overseas
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Lots have been said about costs, but if you count the costs of border closures, the costs of running disparate systems across the states, the cost of mental health from restrictions, the cost of illnesses and deaths resulting from outbreaks, and the future costs of health complications from those that have caught the virus......I think a centrally managed and remote system might end up being "cheaper". On staff, you could have a system where they work monthly or quarterly on site, and remunerate them appropriately. Much better then them going home every night and mixing with the crowd. Having said all this, we have still done it better than 99% of other countries. |
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The Blokes who own the Toowoomba Airport want to builds a Quarantine Station right next to It.. Walk off the Plane straight into It.. https://www.abc.net.au/radionational...ntine/13131412 |
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![]() You've got to then put them on domestic / charter flights and get them to Toowoomba and that's opened up the movement risk again. |
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