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My paint was a bit rough to the touch after 6 years in the SUN (car hasn't seen a garage). I just thought that's as good the paint is gonna get be with regular polish and wax. WOW what a difference the clay made, all this yelow/brown build upcame off with the clay and the paint is now as smooth as glass. If your paint is rough to the touch, BUY THIS STUFF! You won't regret it. |
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Ill post up a pic to try to show how good it comes up... |
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Yeah I don't get what this clay shit is. I might go down to Autobarn and have a look.
I gave the EL a good wash yesterday and then hit it with the Turtle Wax shit and then Meguiars Gold Class. MMmmmmanannnnn what a difference! Looked like it had just been delivered by the dealer!!!! So I've got my kit done! Might have to buy some clay stuff but. Sundeep |
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i generally buff the whole car down with scratchx with a motor hand buffer, then go over with wet look wax, that does the treat
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OK, I was about to wax the ute when I noticed it said you should use paint cleaner before applying to remove dirt, resude, other waxes etc. Is this necessary, or should I just wax it anyway??
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Then you just polish and wax after that. |
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If your paint is smooth or even slick and is in good condition, go ahead and seal or wax the finish If not then do clay it however I recommend that you do it quickly but lightly, don't rub or scrub Only use paint cleanser occasionally and don't polish so often. Polishing every three months is overkill. Instead use ultra fine products first like vanilla moose, paint cleanser, clay, quick detailers and hand glazes.
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So I can use the sealant even without the paint cleaner, just make sure I wash it good before hand...
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For example, you could polish and nothing else, but since you haven't used the paint cleaner, the polishing may not be as good. Also if you don't wax it the polish won't last as long. Panda
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stoopid question, is paint sealent the same as wax??
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They are both forms of paint protection but here's the diff Wax - carnuaba natural and synthetic (silicone polymers) Melting point 180 F Sits on the paint and provides one to four months protection Pro's - easy to apply and remove, 0-30 mins bonding time, great shine with carnuaba's, carnuba's can be applied over top of sealants provide excellent depth and wetness to paint Con's - won't last as long Acrylic, super polymer, ceramic and polymer sealants Melting point 800+ F Given from 15 mins to two hours and up to 24 hours, will bond to the paint and cure, then becoming a rock hard protective layer between paint and the elements three to 12 month protection in most cases Pro's - better protection, great shine and decent depth, can be layered for increased depth Con's - lacks real depth and wetness, must wait 24 hours between coats
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Zaino sell an accelerator for their sealant so you can do up to 3 coats in 24 hours
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thanks for the helpful info. So, if I use the sealent, then use wax, that is the way to get the best protection and shine?
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I've known about Zaino's booster for many months. Being a member of the world's #1 detail site provides me with updates on new products Am not a zaino user however and prefer to let them cure naturally
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Quik Clay is awesome stuff everyone agrees including me.
What I dont know how Megs Aus and retailers justifies the asking price of between $35 -45 cos I saw it in Walmart (equivalent to Big W) in the US 2 months ago for 9.99(US)! They've definately cornered the market here at the premium end and personally i'd love to see some of the lesser known brands such as Poorboys more widely available to give them a run for their money. |
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It's gonna happen mate, with me, wax it, eclipse and concourse car care slowly but surely bringing in the latest products from the states, meguiars will face stiff competition eventually No chance of removing them from the market completely but their market share will be attacked Quik clay is good but it's only poly clay. I find that type of clay to be sticky and leaves more residue than traditional clays Instead of paying $35-$45 for the container of clay and lubricant, get yourself a blue or red clay magic bar at $40 which is 200 grams, twice to three times the size of the quik clay and then get a 3.78 - 5 litre container of quick detailer and every time you have half emptied the 500ml - 1 litre spray bottle, fill it back up with purified water Will last a lot longer and save you heaps
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I actually sell those at a discount to ford forums members. If you cut the block into two or four pieces and shape into square the size of your palm, then if you drop a piece you still have others to use as if you drop it you must throw it out And you can either shampoo the whole car down and then clay or use quick detail spray on a dry car as lubricant
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I found the terry towel excellent when waxing... Although I havent used a microfibre one to compare with...
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You can do either one of the following Send money order or cheque to Dream Machines Matthew Gibb PO BOX 369 Virginia South Australia 5120 or direct debit BSB # 633-000 Account 110985017 Cost each is $40 dollars and $10 dollars for postage all over australia
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are these polishers any good they are on special at hs for 40 bucks
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I doubt it. Polishers like that do not have the torque to do the job. It may be better than the ones seen at supercheap's but it's a 10 inch pad and won't be easy to manouvere in certain areas
For around $150 - $200 you can get random orbitals that will do a superb job The rotary I am updating to soon is $450 wholesale and reduces torque and speed when you put pressure on the paint (albeit moderate) otherwise you will burn or eat through more paint. It speeds back up with no pressure as well.
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If all you want to do is apply wax & save some time those cheap type orbitals could be useful but if you want to do some polishing or want a really good result you'll be disappointed unfortunately
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I picked up a Meguiar's microfibre polishing cloth (see pic below) and microfibre chamois last week (20% off at AutoBarn).
Are these items OK? Can the microfibre polishing cloth also be used as the drying cloth instead of the chamois? From what I've read the microfibre cloths are better than chamois' for drying because they don't scratch the paint. I currently use Meguiar's NXT generation tech wax and car wash...both are great! My white BA also has some fine scratches on it as well as water marks that don't wash off. What's the best option here? A clay bar? If so, which is the best value for money? I'm not sure if I can bring myself to pay $50 for a red clay bar, but then if it's not much more than the 'others', then I guess I will! My XF's paint is a little tired and is thinning in quite a few spots, and has the trademark variations in colour that go with many silver paints. What can I do to gently rejuvenate it, short of a respray? |
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i didnt wanna start a new thread on this,,,BUT has anyone had any problems with the meguiars range?? I've spone 2 the company on many occasions and already know me on a first name bassis (they most likely call me BALLBreaker!!!!!! lol), asking them if there stuff is clear coat safe and they assured me it was!! it just throws me off when there is no indication on the new products like the teck wash and wax and the clay bar which i must do!! anyone have any issues with the clay bar!!!??
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The #9 meguiars swirl remover doesn't remove swirls. It only fills and hides them and is far too fine to remove any. They will come back after a couple washes.
You can either shampoo the car and clay with the shampoo on it or wash and dry and then use quick detailer on each panel and rub the bar over and wipe with an MF To get rid of all swirls by hand is impossible. You can remove up to 60% with alot of work However with a rotary, PC or orbital, you can do it with two steps. Wash & clay cut or cleanse paint swirl mark remover (choose the grade (either ssr 3, 2.5, 2 or 1) that you need and then finish with #1 finishing polish enhance paint (clearkote vanilla, raspberry and yellow moose or by themselves if your in a hurry) Seal with either acrylic, ceramic or super polymer sealer (2-4 coats is great) Wax - concourse wax is my choice That of course is my method for the ultimate finish, some cars may require only paint decontamination, cleansing, minor swirl mark removing and sealing
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