NSW Speed Camera Tolerance to be 0kph

[Stefan]

Wait until they decide to link your credit card to your rego and number plates.....speed camera direct debit. No credit card no rego...

Give it a few years.

[Ben73]

Everyone should of voted for the parking metre party in the NSW election the other day. They say they would get rid of all revenue raising mobile speed cameras

[joolz]

Bought an FG XR6 20 months ago and at the time the speedo read on digital 100km/h and dial just under by approx 1km/h yet the GPS flickered between 101-102km/h. Now with digital speedo and dial same as above GPS shows 99km/h!!! My cousin whom is also TOG officer can confirm on a constant speed GPS is very accurate. So having new roadworthy tyres will play a part in being snapped for speeding as opposed to having bald ones in the wet which the cameras wont pick up on unless its the taken by the NSW coronor....

[joolz]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Wait until they decide to link your credit card to your rego and number plates.....speed camera direct debit. No credit card no rego...

Give it a few years.

Better still GPS tracking and direct debit.... Broke and unlicenced and thats just getting to work!!

[delete94]

Originally Posted by Ben73

Perhaps they need a motoring party so someone can actually stand up against all this nonsense.

I used to think that’s what motoring advocacy groups, such as the RAC were for, to lobby the relevant authorities on behalf of their members, which are supposed to be representative of a wide cross section of the motoring public.

Unfortunately, to me at least, my perception over recent years is that it seems even they’ve succumbed to the whole speed spin being pushed by the authorities. Whenever the issue of road safety or speed in general comes up, it seems the standard response is: “We praise/welcome any moves which will help reduce speeding on our roads”. I’ve seen this phrase written on a number of occasions in the press and even in their own magazine.

Don’t get me wrong though, I’m not bashing the RAC, far from it. I only use them as an example because they are probably one of the single biggest motoring groups in this country. I actually think they do a good job. They have some good campaigns and get some good results, especially with their black spot roads campaigns, which in itself is a plus for road safety.

But maybe, just maybe, if they and other motoring organisations started lobbying for change, there might be a greater chance of the relevant authorities sitting up and taking a bit more notice of what we, the motoring public, actually think about speed cameras and the government’s appalling attitude in general to road safety.

Wishful thinking I know, but at the very least, it may help to make this issue a little less frustrating if at least I knew there was an organisation like this in there batting for us and pushing for a system that promotes road safety as a serious issue, rather than just a means of revenue raising.

[vztrt]

Actually this would be perfect for the government. String a whole heap of 1 point fines at $150 a pop is good revenue, especially for a state in the red.

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[XR6TCraig]

Originally Posted by xe351

Or maybe go transporter style, hit the button and your plates flip over - this sounds good lol.

I actually picked up a magazine today that had a 1/4 page add for this very thing.

A device that you can buy that could make your number plates flip down flat at the push of a button!

Illegal I am sure but I am tempted!

[Captain Stubing]

I drive a police car at work. It's fitted with an aftermarket digital speedo, because the factory one is so innacurate! The BA Falcons used to show about 5km/hr lower. For the last four years I've only driven Hilux dual-cabs, but the Hilux is over 15km/hr out at 100kph!

How can Mr & Mrs Smith know if they're doing 2km/hr over the limit?

However, the factory speedo does show you driving faster than you actually are (service intervals come quicker?)

[HULK EF]

The width of the needle against the speedo fascia can hide the true km per hour reading.. aswell as habibs with their seats reclined back in the airline seat sleep position... lol

[Happymate]

Just get good, undetectable radar detectors

[TheInterceptor]

Well yeah if there was such a thing haha. Detectors send out a signal to detect detectors...your detector will be detected..and off to gaol you go...

Best thing i can think of in forms of detection is well...a UHF on ch40. Listen for warnings from others about coppers and such.

[xe351]

Originally Posted by Craiginmackay

I actually picked up a magazine today that had a 1/4 page add for this very thing.

A device that you can buy that could make your number plates flip down flat at the push of a button!

Illegal I am sure but I am tempted!

sounds like an interesting read! any possibility of scanning it in and posting it up, or pm'ing me with it?

[Happymate]

Originally Posted by TheInterceptor

Well yeah if there was such a thing haha. Detectors send out a signal to detect detectors...your detector will be detected..and off to gaol you go...

Best thing i can think of in forms of detection is well...a UHF on ch40. Listen for warnings from others about coppers and such.

You can still get them, and there are two that are genuinely undetectable They pick up NSW mobile cameras easily, same with HWP cars. These detectors dont send out a signal, they wait to receive any threats. The fine is pretty high though, 7 points and near $1000+, not including the cost of surrendering the device.

Alot of people swear by the UHF ch40. I should give that a try too, are there any particular radios that are recommended?

[TheInterceptor]

Originally Posted by Happymate

You can still get them, and there are two that are genuinely undetectable They pick up NSW mobile cameras easily, same with HWP cars. These detectors dont send out a signal, they wait to receive any threats. The fine is pretty high though, 7 points and near $1000+, not including the cost of surrendering the device.

Alot of people swear by the UHF ch40. I should give that a try too, are there any particular radios that are recommended?

Didnt know there was such a thing, happy to be corrected!

Yeah ch40 can be full of bs and swearing on the occasion as you would but other times its decent. As for units, good brands GME, Oricom, Icom even Uniden have some decent stuff nowadays...
Theres an Oricom in car unit going for $144 on ebay that seems good value.
Theres an Oricom handheld pack 2W of power for $114 also on ebay which is also good value.

They are getting cheaper because there will be 40 more channel's being released in a years time if im not mistaken. The cheaper units cant be reprogrammed with the new channels this bearing a lower price tag.
The 40ch ones can still be used though when the extra channels are released.


Sorry off topic

[Ben73]

If you get caught with a detector 9 points and 1000$ fine.

I believe they beep when they pick up a radar and beep quicker as you approach. So when it starts beeping it turn it off and slow down. Once you past camera/cop turn it back on

[flappist]

Originally Posted by TheInterceptor

Well yeah if there was such a thing haha. Detectors send out a signal to detect detectors...your detector will be detected..and off to gaol you go...

Best thing i can think of in forms of detection is well...a UHF on ch40. Listen for warnings from others about coppers and such.

You might want to do a bit of research on how RDDs actually work.

You are completely wrong here.....

[Keepleft]

The UHF CBRS additional channels, should be early this year. NZ adopting the same bandplan.

http://www.uhfcb.com.au/Uniden-Media-Releases.php

http://www.uniden.com.au/AUSTRALIA/p...ile_radios.asp

[|||]

sanity prevails

Originally Posted by a fair dinkum legend

IN ONE of his first acts as Deputy Premier, Andrew Stoner has not only ordered the Roads and Traffic Authority to reinstate the leeway given to speeding motorists, but he has asked for it to be increased.

Mr Stoner met the RTA chief executive, Michael Bushby, on Tuesday and directed him to axe a Labor cabinet decision to remove the leeway, which would have allowed motorists to be fined for exceeding the limit by just 1km/h.

A Keneally cabinet document leaked days before the state election last weekend revealed the previously secret tolerance was 3km/h, but that the budget committee of cabinet had endorsed its removal.
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Mr Stoner, who is expected to be sworn in as roads minister this week or early next week, would not say what the tolerance was but he confirmed it had been increased.

The RTA had always kept the tolerance secret, although there has been an assumption that it was about 10 per cent of the speed limit to allow for faulty speed cameras or speedometers.

Police have warned that a new set of tyres or the width of a speedometer needle could put motorists over the speed limit under zero tolerance.

While NSW has always fiercely guarded its tolerance, the Victorian government revealed in 2007 that its level was 2km/h for fixed speed cameras and 3km/h for mobile speed cameras, plus a discretionary tolerance.

It is believed that Mr Stoner would have pushed for the tolerance to be at least 5 per cent, if not slightly higher.

The Deputy Premier said the Coalition government was eager to bring an end to needless revenue-raising.

''The NSW Liberals and Nationals are determined to restore commonsense to government in NSW - this is one practical step towards that,'' Mr Stoner said.

''We are determined to earn the trust of motorists by focusing on road safety, not revenue-raising. The NSW Liberals and Nationals government doesn't want to punish safe drivers who try to do the right thing.''

Mr Stoner also promised to ask the Auditor-General to investigate speed cameras and will audit speed limits - which road safety experts criticised, warning that increasing rural speed limits will mean more deaths on the roads.

Mr Stoner said that he simply wanted to bring consistency to what were ''confusing speed limits'' in NSW.

http://smh.drive.com.au/roads-and-tr...330-1cgdb.html

[ltd]

Bravo. Good to see NSW is on the road to recovery from the draconian socialists. Now what to do about Vuvuzela the Bogan Ranga and her Carbon Craptacular?

[TheInterceptor]

Originally Posted by flappist

You might want to do a bit of research on how RDDs actually work.

You are completely wrong here.....

Thanks for letting me know, will look into it..

Originally Posted by |||

sanity prevails



http://smh.drive.com.au/roads-and-tr...330-1cgdb.html

Wow there is still hope yet.

[aussie muscle]

Originally Posted by Ben73

Everyone should of voted for the parking metre party in the NSW election the other day. They say they would get rid of all revenue raising mobile speed cameras

i didn't see them on the electoral form, then again, i might not have ventured all the way to the other side. That page is big enough to sleep a family of five.

[burnz]

which road safety experts criticised, warning that increasing rural speed limits will mean more deaths on the roads.

these clowns allways have a say, be interesting if the new gov can silence them..

[Bud Bud]

Originally Posted by vztrt

Actually this would be perfect for the government. String a whole heap of 1 point fines at $150 a pop is good revenue, especially for a state in the red.

Ha ha yeh I have often thought of something like this and maybe even going one step further!

Set a zero tolerance and then charge a default of say $25 per km over the sign posted limit with no loss of points until the speed hits maybe 5-7 km over the posted limit, then ramp up the penalties with loss of points etc. accordingly there after.

This would not only guarantee a steady income by making it affordable to most, but by not taking their licence away for minor offence repeat offenders under the cap (but penalising the real serial inappropriate speedsters) it also leaves them to remain on the road so the cycle can continue unabated over and over.

That would soon help top up the Gov coffers and all in the name of safety, Ka-ching!

Bud Bud

[TheInterceptor]

Originally Posted by Bud Bud

Ha ha yeh I have often thought of something like this and maybe even going one step further!

Set a zero tolerance and then charge a default of say $25 per km over the sign posted limit with no loss of points until the speed hits maybe 5-7 km over the posted limit, then ramp up the penalties with loss of points etc. accordingly there after.

This would not only guarantee a steady income by making it affordable to most, but by not taking their licence away for minor offence repeat offenders under the cap (but penalising the real serial inappropriate speedsters) it also leaves them to remain on the road so the cycle can continue unabated over and over.

That would soon help top up the Gov coffers and all in the name of safety, Ka-ching!

Bud Bud

Not just that, it allows Darwinism to happen!

[Paxton]

Nothing from Harold Scruby yet. Let's hope that he does not have an ear with this Government, because if he does, god help us all.

[vztrt]

Well at least NSW faired better then Victoria after we had a party change.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by Paxton

Nothing from Harold Scruby yet. Let's hope that he does not have an ear with this Government, because if he does, god help us all.

I suspect he does not have a hope.

This government appears to be distancing itself from the "loony lobbyists" and "dictatorial public vegetables".

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by burnz

these clowns allways have a say, be interesting if the new gov can silence them..

I wonder what one has to do to become a road safety expert?

I swear the RTA's road safety experts are the people in charge of the finacial department.

But if this article is true, maybe the liberals will actually be able to change the pathetic focus on revenue raising which is doing SFA for real road safety.

[Paxton]

Originally Posted by flappist

I suspect he does not have a hope.

This government appears to be distancing itself from the "loony lobbyists" and "dictatorial public vegetables".

I think you might be right. Andrew Stoner (Nat's Leader/Roads Minister) seems to be a car bloke. All this talk of changing speed limits, tolerances and Speed Camera reviews is a bit of a different story to the previous mob and their cash grab. 'Bout bloody time (and I bet you're itching to ditch Capt. Bligh).