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https://www.theage.com.au/national/k...04-p56rob.html
Hat tip to MM, well done on protecting WA's people. With no virus, your economy can zoom along. Hopefully Vic can get rid of it once more.
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Sure iron ore is a 'good ****' thing but not only what we do here |
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For sure he is doing a good job. That is not to say that Glady's and Dan are doing bad jobs. Their job is orders or magnitude harder that WA. They have such bigger populations and much higher population densities. They also have tightly coupled states along the East coast. Closing borders is dramatic for Vic, QLD and NSW. To offer advice by press release and public statements lacks class. But one thing is for sure, we have had plenty of politicking in the last year.
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No one else cares to hear him carry on.... That was the point.
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Yeah I know what goes on in your state as I have been there numerous times in many years..... don't take my comment personally if that is what you are doing. Cheers. |
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WA has offered assistance? How so? Want to start taking on some overseas arrivals so we can get Aussies home quicker? Nah...just close the borders at a drop at a hat and pretend that means you are doing something.
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2021 F1 Australian GP set to be postponed amid COVID restrictions The opening round of the 2021 Formula 1 season in Australia is set to be postponed, Autosport has learned. https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...o-be-postponed |
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So like an intruder in your house, the bad guy might be able to open your front door but there's a machine gun waiting for him on the other side so he's probably not going to get real far. ![]() And there is no "letting it rip through the rest of the population", at least as far as our country is concerned. Medical professionals have already proven that most people who contract covid are left with heart damage even if they only had mild symptoms. There's speculation on what this might mean for their life expectancy but so far it's too soon to tell, not even including the damage to the other organs. I've done my part to keep others safe but I don't really want to be thrown under the bus in order to further guarantee the now-vulnerable elderly population who have already lived a full life during the greatest economic conditions the country ever saw. Younger generations have sacrificed enough in 2020 to keep the vulnerable safe, let's not also ask them to cop permanent organ damage and possibly shortened life expectancy while also being saddled with the responsibility of having to rebuild the country's economy over the course of their lives and not even getting to enjoy their shortened lifespan with reasonable prosperity. |
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Regular vaccines stop the virus propagating as they stop people being infected. Interesting year ahead if that is the case
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Just google it, I'm not going to spoon-feed you. If by this stage you haven't heard medical people talk what covid is doing to the body then I'm not sure you'll agree with any proof that I provide.
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Of those who have died, either from or with, how many were autopsied? Scaremongering never works. It almost always has the opposite effect. Much better to just use actual facts. 'Most people' is not facts. That's using language to make the situation seem worse to try to create compliance. It just doesn't work.
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Data valid as at 00:00 GMT January 4th, 2021.
Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting. 21 new cases for Australia and no deaths so the CMR is 3.189%. NSW recorded 7 cases, Queensland 5, Victoria & SA recorded 4 each while WA & NT had 1 case each. No new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.146% and active cases 72. The UK had a new record 58,474 cases yesterday and 407 deaths. Just over 241k new cases in the USA yesterday and 1,447 deaths sees CMR fall to 1.702% and active cases at 39.4% with the raw numbers rising and now over 8.3M. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences. Other notable points: (weekend reporting): Global cases pass 86M with the last 1M in 1 day; The USA completes 259M, India 175M, UK 56M, Italy 27M, Turkey 25M, Canada 14M and the Netherlands 6M tests. Only - Nigeria (1,271); Dominican Republic (2,043) - the previous high on 26/7; Ireland (6,110) - 23% above the high yesterday; and the UK (58,474) ... recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.
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'most people' is just hyping it up. Why? There have been a lot of 'experts' come out of the woodwork in the last year as well. Were they all in agreement on all things? Just tone it down a touch instead of coming across all aggressive and acting like anyone who doesn't lock themselves away is going to die.
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Sick to the back teeth of you “would be feckin experts” attempting to ram your opinions down our throats!....
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tl;dr - 60% = 'most' Like leesa said though, we have months and months of this data, if studies like these don't convince you that you don't want to spread this virus, then nothing will. Meanwhile, we're not seeing too many links to studies from the anti-covid side of the camp... |
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We are not (as I've said before) going to get a definitive answer on the long term impact of COVID19 for some time to come.
Such studies require both the passage of time (for long term impacts) and exhaustive testing that is both time consuming and expensive. Somewhat ironically, we might get our best answer following the recent deaths / collapses of 3 college athletes (2 football, 1 basketball) who had all recovered from COVID19 and all of whom suffered a cardiac failure while playing or training. One of those colleges already had a conditioning program that captured players cardiac and respiratory fitness levels and they are now conducting post recovery tests to compare with the pre-COVID history for the athletes in their program. It's not a huge study as there are only about 700 athletes involved but you can be fairly sure that it will be detailed and provide a useful guide to the short term impacts, whatever they might be. Personally, I think there is probably some impact in much the same way as a dose of pneumonia has long term impacts and I suspect in some cases those impacts will shorten the lifespan of the individual. There are just so many questions at the moment but the answers will probably impact the way a lot of things are done in the future, particularly with sportspeople. Questions are already being raised about how soon an athlete should return to training after a 'recovery'; what level of testing is needed to ensure they are healthy enough to resume strenuous activity and does the passage of time impact their ability and I expect a number of research programs to focus on that initially. For the broader community it is more difficult. Without a solid set of 'before' data in terms of cardiac and respiratory condition, it's impossible to obtain hard scientific data on the severity of any impact. Yes, you can gather anecdotal data as well as empirical data about the 'after' condition but that doesn't much help with assessing the degree of impact. Mind you, the US college athletic studies will provide a somewhat slanted view as well. We are talking about individuals who are already at peak fitness levels anyway and the impact may be greater or lesser because of that. THIS article from the Mayo clinic is at least thought provoking if a little short on hard data. If you want some further reading then follow some of the links in the 'references' section of that article. I found this one and this UK one particularly interesting.
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Interesting factoid is no ICU cases at all thus far for NSW this micro-wave. Better treatment or just that the elderly and infirm have been better protected?
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We looked at the models for the USA and UK yesterday so here are the models for global cases and mortalities.
The case graph shows a trend almost line-ball with the upper predictive line so an end of January global case total of ~104M. ![]() The mortality model is also keeping pace with the upper predictive model and on target for ~2.2M by the end of this month. ![]()
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This is pretty sad in anyone's language....
Ambulance crews told not to transport patients who have little chance of survival https://www.latimes.com/california/s...-surge-illness Quote:
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Would be interesting in those establishments in Mitchell, ACT.
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Ambulance crews told not to transport patients who have little chance of survival
Wow, talk about a crumbling situation. This is like modern civilisation breaking down before our eyes |
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Country leaders playing political games with peoples lives is why it ended up being so bad in all three countries mentioned above. Where are all the braindead morons in the USA who were filming themselves in January/February last year claiming that "the hospitals are empty" and "this is a fake virus", etc, etc? Where are they now?? ![]() I really hope the same morons making those videos ended up in the very same hospitals they were filming, infected with the virus, and are now dead! Karma! |
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When you look at all of the graphs comparing 1st wave and later waves looking at infections and deaths, the virus appears to have become way less dangerous. I don't think that is the case at all, we probably under diagnosed huge numbers of cases in the first months, then captured more, and now in Vic and NSW we are actively searching out likely cases, including many of the asymptomatic cases - you probable get the true caseload. And a truer indication of how the incredible infectiousness is the main weapon for covid. Allowed to go unhindered through the community it would be a disaster. Compared to covid, catching the flu is like catching a fly with chopsticks.
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