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I think Ford Aus are going to have a lot of trouble with the XR5 - they cant price it too cheap as the Volvo equivalent from which it comes from retails for around $50k.
If it's into the $40K mark then you would be better off with an xr6 or xr6t. Tx5 Ghia all over again. It will sell, but it wont sell like the WRX. |
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XR5T price is confirmed, but it is FWD not AWD
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Ford and Volvo arent even compeditors! People looking at buying an XR5 would sure as hell not look at a volvo! I'm one of them. Just becasue they have the same engine doesn't mean that they have the same profit margin or sales quota's. They are a totally different car aimed at different markets, and at $35K with performance times close behind a stock XR8, the Focus XR5 will sell very well I beleive. |
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Sounds good. Is that because of a drop-off of buyers or have Ford Aust upped their allocation? |
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I can confirm the XRT5 is $35990 + on roads. Mine with leather recaros is $41100 (including on roads).
I CANT WAIT. |
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Different markets. |
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The s40 and the xr5 share the same engine, same chassis, same dimesions and if the xr5 was awd then it would just different body panels and interior, its nearly comparing a telstar to a 626, except now one costs another 20g more for awd. I will admit however that the Volvo brand does have attract a loyal following of safety conscious people, I guess you could drill it down to saying "what sort of car do you associate with Volvo, what sort of car do you associate with focus, what sort of car will you associate with Mazda" |
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If you're comparing Ford & Volvo, you could look at VW and Audi - it is a similar scenario. There will be some crossover, but not a whole lot.
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According to VFACTS this month
Local Large Cars: Ford Falcon 4,743 Holden Commodore 4,787 Mitsubishi 380 1,011 Toyota Camry V6 736 UTE's Ford Falcon Ute 1,328 Holden Rodeo 4X2 918 Holden Utility 4X2 1,288 Toyota Hilux 4X2 1,442 SUV Ford Territory 1,564 Holden Adventra 253 Holden Jackaroo 0 Toyota Prado 1,131 Light Ford Fiesta 519 Holden Barina 1,369 Hyundai Getz 1,409 Mazda2 552 Toyota Yaris 1,757 Small Ford Focus 987 Holden Astra 1,646 Holden Viva 1,126 Mazda3 2,577 Mitsubishi Lancer 1,155 Subaru Impreza 977 Toyota Corolla 3,395 Overall Locally Manufactured Ford 7,728 Holden 6,862 Mitsubishi 1,111 Toyota 2,611 |
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1,011 380s sold. Not even the $29,990 LE model was able to generate a boost in sales. This car deserves better then that. FF |
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has the 380 been $29990 for all of Feb?
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what is more of a concern to me is the Focus vs Corolla. Ford really need to put the boot in the Focus marketing, the car is so much better than the Corolla, the only thing the Corolla has going for it is the perception of reliability.
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THere are heaps of XR tray back s around Brisbane, there is one particularly nice HgAg ute, Turbo, with APS gear and a polished flat bed frame with timber slats and 19" rims floating around., but its definately not 1tonne. |
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Ford really need an AWD Falcon ute or Trayback Territory to combat the Hilux and Rodeo sales.
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There is a new Courier coming soon, I've seen it and it's a good improvement over the current one. The front is quite bold, however the rest is pretty bland. Interior is an improvement and apparently the first ute in its segment to offer side curtain airbags.
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reliability is a big plus when buying a car as is the re-sale value for some.. the Corolla has shown its been a clear winner in most if not all facets wanted in a small car for many years...
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Summary for February 2006 (February 05 figures in brackets):
Ford - Australian manufactured vehicles Falcon/Fairmont - 4,743 (4,650) +2.0% Territory - 1,564 (2,072) -24.5% Utility - 1,328 (1,538) -13.7% Fairlane/LTD - 93 (132) -29.5% Total - 7,728 (8,392) -7.9% Ford - fully imported vehicles Focus - 987 (892) +10.7% Courier - 544 (603) -9.8% Fiesta - 519 (395) +30.4% Transit - 218 (179) +21.8% Escape - 204 (366) -44.3% F250 - 192 (245) -21.6% F350 - 15 (11) +36.4% Explorer - 11 (40) -72.5% Econovan - 8 (59) -86.4% Total - 2,698 (2,790) -3.3% Local + imported = 10,426 (11,182) -6.8% A significantly better month than Jan 06. But still down on respective 05 figures. More Falcons sold then corresponding month last year considering that the 'big sixes' are apparently a dieing segment. As to the dark side......... Holden - Australian manufactured vehicles Commodore - 4,787 (5,890) -18.7% Ute/Crewman - 1,431 (1,617) -11.5% Statesman/Caprice - 256 (328) -22.0% Adventra - 253 (138) +83.3 Monaro - 135 (216) -37.5% Total - 6,862 (8,189) -16.2% Holden - fully imported vehicles Astra - 1,801 (3,235) -44.3% Rodeo - 1,602 (2,103) -23.8% Barina - 1,369 (860) +59.2% Viva - 1,126 (0) N/A Vectra - 297 (330) -10.0% Cruze - 122 (231) -47.2% Combo - 90 (118) -23.7% Tigra - 35 (0) N/A Zafira - 1 (126) -99.2% Jackaroo - 0 (1) - 100.0% Total - 6,443 (7,004) -8.0% Local + imported = 13,305 (15,193) -12.4% A significantly worse month than Jan 06. 2005 was Commodore's worst year since 1993. So far 2006 is already well down on 2005 figures. Alloytech? No thanks. The only winners for Holden are the Daewoo manufactured cars. Holden claim that they mean a lot to Australia, however: 74% of Ford vehicles sold in Feb 06 are Australian made. 52% of Holden vehicles sold in Feb 06 sold are Australian made. For February 2006 the fuel types were as follows: Petrol - 65,455 (86.9%) Diesel - 8,817 (11.7%) LPG - 977 (1.3%) Hybrid - 111 (0.1%) Total - 75,360 (2,086 heavy commercial vehicles not included) For February 2005 the fuel types were as follows: Petrol - 69,744 (88.4%) Diesel - 8,538 (10.8%) LPG - 587 (0.7%) Hybrid - 100 (0.1%) Total - 78,969 (2,172 heavy commercial vehicles not included) As can be seen, there is a slow movement away from petrol engines. The number of LPG powered vehicles has almost doubled. It will be interesting to see the LPG sales once Ford releases the E-gas engine on more BF models FF Last edited by Falcon Freak; 05-03-2006 at 12:09 PM. |
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Excellent breakdown - good work
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very nice to see ford outselling holden.
as for 0 Jackaroos sold, do they even make them anymore?? BWAHAHAHAHHAHA.
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