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He's only sold one of his car collection that I know of and that's car is now part of the Bowden collection on the sunshine Coast. http://www.bowdensown.com.au/why-we-...our-collection I think the collectors will only sell if they really have to or if they're convinced its going to a better home.
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Have a similar story with 20yo me and a Landau. On the bright side, a 323 was stolen and burnt out, not a GTHO ![]() |
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If the car means that much to someone that it would take an obscene amount of cash to part with it, why is it up for sale in the first place? Its like putting a price on a family member (although i have considered trading the wife for a newer model) |
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Cant say id spend half a mill on a falcon
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The sentimental value goes out the window when the owner passes away and the family member that showed no interest in it, or called it a piece of *&^% for years, is as the door with tea and scones before the rigor mortis has set-in. There is no price for something that is irreplaceable...to 'some people' |
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Especially when the car is supposedly on the market for sale. Different story when the car is not for sale. None of my cars are for sale, but if Wozza's mate recons my coupe is worth 5k or 100K i could not give a rats, but if Mr Moneybags turns up with a Briefcase with 150K in it and says I want to buy your coupe, I think he would have a deal, even though I have owned it for 30 years this year. Quote:
I work with people ranging from 25-55, and guess what anyone under 35 does not even know what a GTHO is or could care in the slightest. I have had blokes around my place checking out my ute and coupe and they are confused why I would drive or want such a car when it does not have A/C and satnav and the latest iCrap compatability software. Half of them think my BF GT is ancient and outdated technology ![]() So my guess will be in another 10-15 may be 20 years a GTHO will be worth peanuts, and even when for sale no one will even know what it is or care in the slightest if it gets turned into baked bean cans.
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its not greed its a choice made! if you are selling anything and you have a price in mind AND are not desperate to sell why sell? for those holding out for close to a million dollar pay day then perhaps that time has passed however high quality cars, especially those with low miles and unrestored, or fully restored with genuine or nos parts will always fetch values queried by those of us who cant afford or justify
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I would of bought it. But I'm not paying half a mill for a chicken coop.
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if the 22000 mile car referred to earlier in this discussion came up for sale and is true to its mileage, unrestored, log books etc id guarantee you it will fetch over 500k NO PROBLEMS. In fact it would probably change garages without the public knowing about....true enthusiasts just wish to preserve heritage not make profits. lets face it if you have that sort of coin to dispose of then the topic here being discussed, price, is not relevant.if the profit comes then that's a bonus. there are a number of sub 30000 mile phase 3 gt hos NOT including the yellow glow car which now resides in Tasmania, which will over time change hands and the general public wont know about it. these are cars which enthusiasts go hunting for. there seems to be a pre occupation with what a phase 3 is worth....fact is the muscle car boom and then fall has still resulted in people having a car worth more than they could of dreamt of irrespective of what badge it wears. enjoy them ffs
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To me cars like the latest Mustang capture all of the Classic look & styling but with added, Power, comfort, safety & toys.
But that's is for the Buyers that want to use their cars, the Collectors after old Classics are another market entirely
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I was 7 when the XW came out in 1969. Our neighbour bought a Fairmont new in that shape but it wasn't until the XA came out in 1972 that I really started taking an interest in Fords - both the 4 door and coupe.
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However though, I do recall GT-HO (P3) values hitting an all time high of around $100k, just prior to 1990 (when the recession hit). Not many people may remember, but that 1990-1993 recession was a particularly bleak time - and was the closest thing to a depression experienced here since the 1930's. |
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check it out, news story just broke about this very topic.
http://www.msn.com/en-au/motoring/ne...cid=spartanntp |
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I tend to relate values to any other collectables, like antique furniture, stamps, coins etc for example. The real value is in unrestored condition, anything that has been restored will never have the same appeal.
As time goes on this will become more and more important as a guide to authenticity and provenance. Some might say that a total restoration to concourse condition is the go and others will say it can hide dishonesty. For that kind of money I would want to see one in unrestored condition. Maybe they don't exist like that any more but that's were the value is.
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Jags and Porsches are the hot item now. Rather than an aussie muscle car if you put your money into a steel bumper 911 during the boom years you would be laughing now.
XK 120s have also gone off, showing gains of over 50% for the last 18 months. This is how it should be, world appeal cars will always be a good bet. Our local stuff is only worth someting if the local economy is doing well. |
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In 1990 a decent HO would have been $50K+, a house in Sydney depending on suburb 100k, so 50K was a bucket load of cash. No Ho for 10K in 1990, no point pulling number out of your ar$e for an nonsensical argument. It never sounds like much in hindsight but who had 50% of the value of a 3 bedroom house to blow on a GTHO? Just did my Google check, I remember when Street Machine gave away a Phase 3, the prize was valued at 50K, the year.......1989. Owning a GT, I hear all the BS stories every time I fill up the car. "yeah I could have bought one for 10k but bought a XXXX", "My Dad had a HO", blah blah...at the end of the day they were expensive from day one. Even a 25K HO 20 years ago I doubt was anything but a POS or just BS. Last edited by Stefan; 06-05-2016 at 10:15 PM. |
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Yeah those are my memories as well, I don't EVER remember GTHOs being "affordable" , even GTs , SLRs and A9Xs were always pricey compared to what I was earning......and then there was expensive insurance which you had to have because these cars were always getting knocked off. |
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and everyones mate had a Gt-HO.. since every Gt was a HO....
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In 1971 $5K was a lot of money to find, beyond most people. In 1990 $50K was a lot of money to find, beyond most people. Today $500K is a lot of money to find, beyond most people. It's all relative.
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Average wage in 71 was $6,497.08. So GT HO less than 1 years wages for the average earner. Average wage in 1990 was $21,027.98. So GT HO around 2.5 years wages for the average earner. Average wage in 2014 was $46,481.52. So GT HO around 11 years wages for the average earner. No not really relative.
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I do think there are several opportunities for these vehicles that would raise their value... BUT its probably going to be more on a personal level.
I was raised in a family with xys. So when my sister and I got our licenses, thats the path we headed down (although yes there are kids brought up whose parents owned one and they couldnt care less- personal preference) So now my son is being brought up in a household that has xy's and xb's.... The same as my sister and I were. who knows what he will want to buy when he gets his license, but there will certainly be the "yeh mum had one and my aunty when i was little" connection. As is probably the case with a lot of parents here. If he waits till my age till he gets one.... the car will be 70 odd years old. will there be many around...? what will they be worth? how long is a piece of string. ALTHOUGH, he is 10 yrs old. "mum when you go can you leave me your car" yep no prob thought I... " I mean the Mazda, I really like it" (forehead slap) |
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It seems to me that there are 2 types of people in this world, those that own a GTHO and those that dont. Those that own one will obviously hope that their car appreciates in value and those that dont all say that they are over priced. Simple as that.
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There's a third type......people who aren't phased either way about price or ownership like me 😉 You see what I did there?......"phased".....lol.... I crack myself up 😂 |
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