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Spent 20 years in the taxi industry Regulated fares check Driver accreditation check Uniforms check Color check roadworthy check Cameras check boot release check Taxi services commission check Taxi and hire care services Act check Assigning licenses check High Licence costs check Industry geared to look after minorities check (every disabled group is given money to pursue late taxis) FFS we are driving people from point A to point B its not that *** complicated. Over regulation has killed services and yet some people will defend regulations to the death. We vote for the idiot governments who condition us that regulations are good. The governments have been milking the industry for all its worth while protecting some players. Even though it will cost me it is good for the public. |
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5 questions on how to interact with transgender people. 2 on Aboriginals and 1 on a gay couple in 55 questions. Nothing about where Hospitals were or how to maintain a car or anything on how to finance your operation or even max driving hours. Were questions about if you were sleepy what to do etc. Poor test I thought was social engineering at its best. |
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The article is wrong and so are many people in this thread.
Über is not illegal in Victoria. If you have a hire car licence and are in a licenced hire car then uber x is legal. The problem is when the person who is a uber driver has neither. (Vic only) Also people who say TAC won't cover them, may find TAC will actually Cover them. You can be covered in a unregistered motor bike unlicensed and have an accident on a public road or reserve. With comprehensive insurance most companies will not cover the car at all, as it is used as a hire car. |
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Undercover people (can't remember who they work for) order uber cars and fine the drivers when they show up. However uber is paying for the fines the driver receives. Heard that first hand from an uber driver.
As xisled said, TAC will cover pretty much anything road related however they can reduce the percentage of money you will receive based on many factors. |
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When I get old there will be no taxi only UBER....
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Then again, this is but just another symptom of a corrupt and degenerate institution (govco). Last edited by Trump; 05-12-2015 at 10:19 AM. |
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Do you think that the industry didn't function until these things came in? All I'm saying is that regulation hasn't delivered a decent service to the public and it has become completely over complicated when the service is just A to B. Regulations add unnecessary costs that the end user in the vast majority of cases couldn't care less about. Obviously a roadworthy vehicle is a must but I would debate that mandatory yearly roadworthies have done anything to improve the standard of vehicles compared to before it was introduced. The way forward for the taxi industry is to go back to a 1 car 1 driver model and banish all the people taking a cut out of the industry. However, there are too many vested interests. |
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Car is registered, If you are in accident TAC will still apply.
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copy and paste of a comment i made on 9 news facebook page:
Just a question for all the pro uber people. How would you take it if you brought a house for 200,300,400 thousand dollars, then all these other people came out and built $10 houses around you. Then they stand out the front with their lollies and water while your working your *** off trying to pay off and maintain your house, as well as take an income, pay tax and put Money aside for super. Well that's exactly what the government and uber are doing to taxi plate owners/owner drivers. Their 'houses' are worth nothing. Have a think about it theres more to it than what the public see.... take a look at taxi plate prices over the past x years.
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The Taxi industry and in particular the big almost monopoly player has treated the consumer with disdain and Karma has arrived.
I feel sorry for those caught up in something not necessarily of their own doing but don’t blame Uber, blame the Taxi Industry.
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No one cares how it was made, just how good the product it is for them.
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Complacency and greed has/will be the undoing of the taxi industry in Australia, customer service fell by the wayside I'm afraid. In business, you snooze you lose. Uber has recognised this and has taken full advantage with it's business smarts and is succeeding in customer service worldwide. No one is disputing your right to make a living like anybody else. ![]() |
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When i pay for a service I expect to get what I paid for.
For a taxi, I expect a clean well maintained car, a driver who knows how to drive, knows where to go without me needing to use my phone GPS and a driver that takes pride in their own health and hygiene Unfortunately my limited experienced with taxis have been expensive, smelly and pretty much instructing the driver where to go. The latter going from Collins st in Melbourne CBD to Plummer St in Port Melbourne. Not only did I have to instruct the driver how to get there but he charged $35 for the privilege. These days I avoid them where possible, either car pool, drive myself or use PT. For airport I save $175 and drive there myself, use the offsite parking and no hassles. I don't use UBER but i welcome them here to force the TAXI industry to improve their drivers, their car fleet and their general attitude. Just seeing taxi driver responses to Uber drivers is like watching rabid cavemen. Competition is in every industry, get used to it.
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+1, how does any reasonable person distinguish between taking a passenger or taking a customer? The physical act of getting in a car and going from point A to point B is the same?
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same goes for when the ATO want a list of all uber drivers and their income. uber drivers are being taken or will be taken for a ride also - just wait and see
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and bring on uber theres less work for them so its only going to get worse. uber drivers will eventually / and some even have, work out its not worth doing (read the whirlpool threads if your bored). Then how long until they increase their rates to come upto the other taxi brands rates?
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vehicle has what check? for taxi driver has police check, medical check, driving test vehicle must be max of 6.5 yrs old frmo date of manufacture, must have yearly rwc, pays rego to do commercial work, pays insurance |
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can people understand that the person who owns the license or taxi or just drives does not set the rules.
if we could we would get rid of half the rules they are not needed, but only govco can. taxi license buy now 250K+, was 530K until the mates of the govco got out and suddenly the rug was pulled to drop the price. these were under 100K in the mid ninties. so 5x their value in under 20yrs there are even reports of pollies who bought licenses when they were cheap laws were changed and they suddenly had the worlds best investment. uber is not trying to shake up the taxi industry. they are a cashed up international company who is simply muscling the locals with no regard for local laws, if you can't understand that or do not care thats your choice. |
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What most people here seem to be saying is because of a bad exprience or 2 or because they believe in unregulated private enterprise that there is no need to license gas installers, electricians etc, dont licence drivers either, just let everything sort itself out!?!?
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For all the negative stories on here only 1 person has said he complained. Good for him.
Complain loudly to the taxi company and the state transport authority, and follow it up...we don't want these grubs in the industry either! If you fear for your safety order the driver to stop and let you out...if he doesn't its kidnapping. However during the mining boom while all the "workers" were raking the big $$$ in who was left to drive the taxis?? That's right the "new arrivals" whose English and ethics are definitely not up to our standards. BUT making standards too high means no drivers at all, taxis parked and people walking, you are not going to get rocket scientists and supermodels driving taxis, EVER...believe me I have tried! No one I know grew up wanting to be a cab driver, me included. Not one person EVER has taken up my offer of a job...the dole is far easier and often pays more. For every bad driver story you guys have, I will have a bad customer story... It is a fact of life we forget the 90% of normal drivers/fares and tell the world about the bad ones. For those who say tough luck about plate values and try to equate it with the "old video store" that technology surpassed, its not the same at all...the video store was NEVER forced to buy an EXCLUSIVE LICENSE from the government to operate in its industry. It's more similar to the government resuming your house to build a freeway on it. There is no choice in the matter from either side...it is just what a growing society HAS to do if it wants uber or the freeway. Taxis take credit cards (and cash to), transport disabled people, have proper insurance and registration, have apps to book if you like, or a call centre if you want that, SMS on approach, have safety cameras which cant be tampered with (ie put your drunken antics up on youtube), are GPS tracked which CANT be turned off by switching off a phone. About the only thing uber do better is marketing....like most marketing the truth suffers but. The 10% Cabcharge credit card fee upsets many people, in the beginning it was need to develop the new mobile eftpos technology, now it should be capped at 3 or 5% or something. BUT uber take 20 - 25% for doing exactly the same transaction AND then ships the profits overseas, making us all pay more tax!! If you don't want to pay the 10% you can use cash, if you don't want to pay ubers 25% you walk! Uber type companies are targeting my business at the moment, if the government rolls over, ignores its own rules and regulations and does nothing YOURS may be next. |
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Being unlicensed in the field of gas fitters and such is different as none of us would like to be in a car with an unlicensed driver. Uber is an uncredited company which doesn’t worry users in the way it would if they were using unlicensed drivers. And this is not about people having a bad experience or two, there is enough documentation to indicate this is an ongoing business envirnoment that doesn't give the customer what they expect. I’m not sure what side of the fence I’m on in this argument but I definitely know the Taxi Industry has had their chance and I don’t support them. . Last edited by Express; 05-12-2015 at 09:47 PM. |
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