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However, LYB is definitely not run down, in fact it is probably quite the opposite. Given that it is our sister station, and they were built to similar standards (albeit that the government at the time did not have the same level of money to invest in the construction of LYB, and therefore a number of money saving design changes were incorporated that were not in LYA), we do share some information with them from time to time on work. I think you'll find that their plant has not been maintained to a higher standard than LYA has over the years. Craig H
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This should be a warning to all Queenslanders to what this ratbag government want to do
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No doubt taxing everyone in Queensland even more would be good with you? Or how about raising royalties to +50% , that will work a treat? Or how about making even more public servants redundant? Sadly there isn't many options available? Oh and remind me again how Queensland got into this financial mess? |
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Governments across Australia have had to deal with significant falls in revenue and a slowdown of economic growth since the GFC. With Queensland, add in a couple of rather nasty natural disasters and a drought and it's pretty obvious why they are in the financial crapper.
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Queensland Treasury figures http://www.budget.qld.gov.au/previous-budgets 2001 Revenue $18.18 billion 2002 Revenue $19.237 billion 2003 Revenue $20.181 billion 2004 Revenue $21.4 billion 2005 Revenue $24 billion 2006 Revenue $26.604 billion 2007 Revenue $29.070 billion 2008 Revenue $32.551 billion 2009 Revenue $36,582 billion 2010 Revenue $37,192 billion 2011 Revenue $40,606 billion 2012 Revenue $43,007 billion 2013 Revenue $46,507 billion Perhaps you meant The Commonwealth Government, as there is a misconception of a fall in revenue to the Fed's, there hasn't been. As for the drought, you are partially correct, the drought has had an adverse effect but perhaps not in the way you meant. To drought proof SEQ, the government built the Tugun desalination plant, how much did this cost and how many litres of water were produced. And then there is the Traveston dam folly, how much did that cost? Yep we are in the crapper but it isn't because of falling revenues, that would leave one other possibility - the governments are spending more than they're receiving. ![]() |
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Sold other things off so revenue doesn't come back to Queensland ?
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besides real money come from federal GST returns that have been dwindling for every state.
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Why have you posted misinformation ? 2008-2009 onwards revenue did not rise by over a million percent as you suggest |
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GST revenue "has" been reduced to the state's!
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And can you confirm that you can't find a single entry having looked the length and breath of the internet - would that be truthful and correct? |
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And it's rare becuse it has never worked. Making statements needs to be supported with evidence, especially if you are trying to sway an opinion. You lately have a penchant for this tactic and it hasnt worked and I doubt anyone on AFF is silly enough to prove your point for you against their own opinion. Id suggest if you want to play you have to put in the effort. If the 'other side' wont do their research it benefits your ability to argue but it shouldnt mean you are also exempt, and I dont see them not offering reference. You claim to be motivated by balance, therefore supporting an opinion or fact with evidence is the only way you can do this. Demanding someone research your point in the hope they will take what you say at face value rather then look for themselves just shouldnt work....if it does I cant imagine what those who fall for it must be like when the nigerian e-mails come through. Justin |
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Here we go i did some googling for everybody i found these points interesting especially the first one.
Key points: The renewable energy target The Howard government introduced the RET in 2001 to encourage growth in renewable energy. The Renewable Energy Target aims for 20 per cent of power to be drawn from renewables - like wind and solar - by 2020. The cost of investment in renewable energy is much higher than investment in traditional energy sources like coal and gas. It is estimated that the cost of the RET to consumers makes up between 1 and 5 per cent of power bills. The RET can lower wholesale electricity prices, because creating renewable energy once the infrastructure is in place is relatively cheap. That benefit does not necessarily extend to the consumer. |
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And the South Australians don't forget to thank John Olson for privatizing our electricity, water, Highways department & Lotteries commission
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In Queensland our electricity bills contain an estimate of what the RET/CO2 tax have added. In our case it is in the order of 20%. "What future for RET?" the link is below http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rc...EknQo57EnjmQ4g Back to the OP, can someone answer if people with home roof top solar panels adding electricity back into the grid, would they be considered as "private" producers of electricity? |
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its probably prudent to also point out the electricity retailers themselves are hoarding the lowering of wholesale prices by not passing on the lower rates to customers. This is something the government could assist in but wont.
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as you know i'm a cafe latte sipping urban progressive socialist hippie architect scum. I live in Central Adelaide with a growing number of like minded people. I think we just re-elected a liberal rep in our recent elections, so perhaps the city dweller is not just like me? I voted green! which says something about the following. Nobody I know struggles with the cost implication of a government policy which aims to reduce our use of electricity and or subsidise our movement to renewables in the form of solar, which 30% of our states power comes from. Though before we put solar on we used $138 of electricity in the quarter, 2 person home with all the mod cons, we even have an electric fridge. Now I export 3 times as much power as we use after our modest solar installation. Now I believe there are people who have significantly higher electricity bills. Any social policy that makes power cost to the consumer match the real cost to the environment is OK with me. What it may do is force people to use less of it which in turn reduces their emissions which in turn slows down the pumping of CO2 into our atmosphere which in turn increases my fellow citizens viability on this planet. As you know I believe in man impacted climate change, that our additional CO2 emissions have tipped the balance. Reducing this is amongst the many other benefits I believe a RET have socially, environmentally and even economically. To date there has been an $8 Billion investment in solar by mums and dads in over 1 million homes in Australia employing 14-18000 people as an industry. SA has one of the highest uptakes of solar due to a government with foresight, as mentioned 30% of our power comes from solar, the dumping of the RET which may have a 6% 'impost' on power prices will effectively shut a large and growing industry, will affect the millions of already financially committed to or with solar and an ever growing employment base. As with other tech power generators and transmission companies we all subsidise their operations, which is no different to everyone subsidising solar, healthcare, police or government. I ask in return, how can your fellow citizens not support the RET+ and their own viability on this planet! JP |
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So...you present a link from Burchell Wilson? An employee of a coal fuelled power station owned by a Singapore govt based multinational who is intent on dismantling anything related to mitigation of carbon in the atmosphere ? Just fallen off my chair with laughter. |
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