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I'd still take a W427 in a heartbeat and void what warranty might be left on it. Ultimate HSV to mod.
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Yes they were expensive, the interiors horrible, and they did not perform as well as some other cars in the same price range (read: M3, RS4 and GTR), but they are still king of the hill. Anyone who doubts this needs to put their F6 against it on the track, where it was designed to go. 3 laps in and you will see where the money went.
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cmon who wouldn't want a W427!? :P
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Wow...you think it is just stick on plastic bits? You need to learn your W427!
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2010 FG XR6, Lighting Strike, ssl/sssl springs, G6 tail lights, roof lip etc etc...LOVIN IT!
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Correct me if I'm wrong but the W427 had a lot to do with HSV making good on a promise
after they backed out of going forward with road going versions of the HRT427 that was built to win a production race by exploiting a loop hole. HSV admitted that doing all the proposed upgrades on a V-Car when much better VE was just around the corner, didn't make economical sense...I think it became a mission to them and the cost of providing a gun ZO6 Corvette engine in a highly upgraded suspension package was always going to cost serious money. In the end, the people who have a W427 probably love them and that's all that really matters. It would be like if FPV built a lunatic Falcon with AWD and track suspension ect, the price would be a killer but man.....what a ride. Like I said earlier, time and technology move on. |
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The wd40 hsv at $155k is way overpriced. Its a nice package, big stonking V8 but compare it with a hsv gts ve with 6.2. looks the same, bit more performance and add $75k??. Add a cam to the 6.2 and the performance is the same. Looks same too and about $70k left in the back pocket. Ridiculous isnt it. Or supercharge the 6.2 and you still have $60k in your pocket.
The value proposition should be compared only to a ve gts. Is the wd40 a $75k better car? ![]() But the people who bought the old vt hsv stroker 220kw gts for $75k would think the wd40 hsv was a good buy at $155k Last edited by RAPID_BA; 14-08-2012 at 01:45 AM. |
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to hate the W427 is to hate Australian muscle cars period
It ain't pretty, but it is as far as Australian built cars will EVER go Like the Aust muslce car scare of the 70's we are in one locally now, but it is one of economics, not government intervention, which unfortunately is always more powerful and pervasive that car is as good as it is going to get |
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Because it got nowhere near the originally projected 427 build number, HSV probably lost quite a bit of money on the project.
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So, put a GT body kit on a BA XR8 and a supercharger, some GT-Ho badges and.... There is my Factory GT-HO!
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So it looked like another HSV. So what? FPVs look like any other Falcon. AMGs look like any other donor Mercedes, M BMWs also look like any other donor car. These cars are not about flamboyance, they're modern performance sedans. Sure you can modify any car for a fraction of the price of what some of the factory cars offer but these cars offer a warranty, have been extensively tested for durability and most people couldn't care less about modifying their car.
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![]() I certainly would not say no to that occupying the driveway. The reliability of N/A grunt should be taken seriously. All I would do to the W427 is chuck in some fluffy dice on the rear vision miror and toss an Akubra hat on the rear parcel shelf to rid of some of that ugly interior. |
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Those saying that the $150k ask for the W427 was unreasonable should google exactly what was done to a GTS to build this.
It wasn't 'just' a 7.0 litre bolt in, the suspension was changed, height and MRC settings, brakes were changed, wheels were changed, gearbox was changed, diff was changed, and of course all the dry sump engineering and even the OTR cold air intake. Of course HSV had to also setup a side production line to pull out the LS3 from the cars arriving from Holden to slot in the LS7. The 'engineering' to produce such a car and then slap a 3 year warranty on it costs more than a few peanuts. Anyone comparing this car to a GTS with a cam or blower has totally missed the point. Would I pay $150k for one? No, not when a C63 or GTR is able to be bought for similar money.
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The W427 shows fundamentally the difference between HSV and FPV.
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I'd rather kiss my sister.
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Same reason I don't like Collingwood.
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you actually believe that ***** eh.
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The W427 is the wet dream Aussie modern day muscle car. So much about it is so just so awesome when it comes to the components.
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I'm not surprised that they haven't sold as many as they had originally intended. If I had $155K to spend and wanted a performance car, I'd be heading to my nearest Mercedes-Benz dealer.
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