Polariser - oh no it's back!

[big_landau]

great marketing move.

[LTDHO]

I don't see it doing any more than what the Chev bowtie does now.

[aussie muscle]

Originally Posted by ltd

Bad idea Holden, unless the bogan faithful are dumb enough to fall for it.

I'm sure they are. Kind of ironic too, since Holden went to war with brocky over it. it was so bad that Brock ended up racing a Ford Sierra for a short while.
sorry, i should have posted this in the 'Epic Fail' thread

Originally Posted by madwag

so.......... what does it do exactly?

i'll quote bossxr8 above for your answer...

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

the positive energy flow from the polarizer allows you to do that, for a smoother ride.

Yep, get a smoother ride by polarising the positive energy flow....

[Bossxr8]

I still can't believe he risked his whole business overe this stupid thing, and ended up losing HDT and a hell of a lot of money over it. And he couldn't prove it worked because a way to test it hadn't been invented yet.

Surely it was a case of wether it improved the cars performance, or not. If it didn't then it proved it was useless.

And it took at least 6 hrs for it to work properly. Would have come in handy on the last few laps of Bathurst.

Mind boggling.

[Whitey-AMG]

Originally Posted by madwag

so.......... what does it do exactly?

Read it and weep

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Brock and Holden bust up
Tuesday, September 12, 2006
Bill Tuckey.

Peter Brock's introduction to crystal healing marked his entry into car energy fields -- and his departure from Holden.

It began, as business failures often do, in a small way. In September 1984, Peter Brock told his friend, Holden executive Grant Steers, that a Victorian schoolteacher-turned-chiropractor who styled himself Dr Eric ("call me Ric") Dowker, had exorcised him of the spirit of a flag marshal killed during the Le Mans 24-Hour race.

An Aston Martin had exploded in flames on the 350kph Mulsanne Straight, killing the marshal and badly injuring driver John Sheldon. For almost an hour, the other cars, including Brock and Larry Perkins in their Bob Jane T-Marts Porsche 956, slowly lapped the black, smoking wreck.

About 2am, 10 hours into the race, a tired Perkins crashed. He was tearful and apologetic back in the pits. I was there when Brock - himself jumpy and stressed-out - tried to console him. When he got back to Australia his partner, Beverley Brock (they never married but she changed her surname by deed poll in 1980), persuaded a gaunt Brock to see Dowker, who had been treating her and Brock's parents, Geoff and Ruth.

Dowker worked what Brock thought was a miracle. His colleagues at HDT Special Vehicles put it down to Dowker getting Brock off smoking (about 30 Marlboros a day, free from one of his sponsors), and easing back his relentless consumption of tea and diet of junk food and mashed potato mixed with lashings of Vegemite.

The miracle cure was to have an all too down-to-earth effect on Brock's future.

The HDT business had started in 1979, not long after Brock's legendary six-lap Bathurst victory, when Holden advised the Holden Dealer Team's manager, John Sheppard, that it was pulling out of motor sport.

This was a time when drivers earned little. Brock went deep into hock to raise the money to buy out Sheppard. Holden stayed in the game with some covert help, and sponsors such as Philip Morris, Castrol and TAA came on board. An influential Adelaide Holden dealer, Vin Keane, came up with an idea to capitalise on Brock's enormous following - a modified "Brock Special" road car to be sold through dealers who contributed to the funding pool. Fifty-seven signed up and HDT Special Vehicles was formed with a working capital of $5000, a $2500 air compressor, some scrounged office gear and a debt of $50,000.

But it was a licence to print money. Keane gave Brock a light blue Commodore SL as the basis for the first performance car. The non-Holden components Brock needed, like special alloy wheels, body kits and premium tyres, would be financed by the dealers. When each car was finished, Brock would invoice for the value-added work. There was no financial risk for HDT and Holden continued its covert design and engineering work, as well as granting access to its Lang-Lang proving ground south-west of Melbourne.

According to his longtime colleague, John Harvey, in 1981 came the first two examples of Brock's impatience with GM bureaucracy that would eventually destroy the business. Both involved fitting parts without engineering department approval, which raised questions about a HDT car's conformity with Australian Design Rules as well as Holden's (and thus General Motors') warranty and insurance liability.

Dowker appeared on the scene in 1984, when Beverley sent a Brock secretary to Dowker to treat her headaches, back pain and sore throats. Dowker worked with crystals, explaining the right one would keep out "negative influences". Brock started wearing one and Beverley began swinging hers over meals. Guests at their home were told crystals were used to purify and heat the water in their swimming pool and spa.

In 1985, Harvey learned Brock was working on a "secret project" involving crystal pieces attached to the engine. No one worried too much, as Brock was always coming up with ideas. Dowker was becoming involved with the team, having "motivational" sessions with Brock and trying to influence the setting up of cars for different circuits. What Brock invented was a device he said used magnets and crystals to re-align and distribute energy - and vastly improve performance. Brock's and Holden's longtime publicist Tim Pemberton told Brock the cigarette package-sized device had to have a name, and suggested "Polarizer". He said later: "Brock shouted: 'You're ********** right! Of course, that's what it is! That's it ... Polarizer, Polarizer!' "

The Energy Polarizer had to be fitted to the engine bay to the millimetre. It couldn't be moved from vehicle to vehicle, and six hours of driving time were needed for the best results. Brock sent one to the CSIRO for testing; it replied it didn't have the equipment. Holden started to get worried. Senior engineer Ray Borrett decided to cut up one and found four magnets wrapped in tinfoil embedded in epoxy resin. Finally, in answer to repeated demands as to what the Polarizer did, Brock issued a statement: "A high-technology energy device which creates a 'polarized' or 'ordered' molecular arrangement as distinct from the normal 'random' structure. This alters the behaviour and characteristics of material and components in the vehicle."

In March 1986, HDT Special Vehicles started advertising a Brock car with Energy Polarizer fitted. Holden was paying the HDT advertising bills through agency McCann-Erickson, and this one used the slogan: "Body by Holden, Soul by Brock" (also a Pemberton-ism). Now Holden had to act. Contrary to corporate policy, Brock had approached GM in Detroit looking for approval. He would claim the Polarizer had passed GM testing (it hadn't) and that the company was considering making it standard fit on the production line.

Holden was getting antsy. When Brock handed Pemberton a press release saying he was handing over day-to-day management of his HDT to executives to concentrate on developing the device, Pemberton said: "Look, Brock, if you want to play Gyro Gearloose, do it out at Eltham, not at Port Melbourne, because that will not hit the spot with GM-H."

In October 1986, Holden wrote to Brock and Dowker proposing a series of tests at Lang-Lang. Brock and Dowker agreed, but after four days of tests the results showed the Polarizer made no difference. Brock replied that the equipment to measure the beneficial effects of the device had yet to be invented.

He dug in his heels. Holden called in its solicitors to warn that Holden had an enforceable contract with HDT covering the building of its vehicles. Brock started removing his signature from the HDT steering wheels. In December, Holden issued a "letter of understanding" which banned fitment and promotion of the device on any Holdens. Brock and Dowker formed the Peri Integration System to act as design consultant to HDT, thus hoping to remove the controversy from HDT control.

But in February 1987, Holden advised Brock that it would not warrant HDT cars fitted with the Polarizer or other non-approved items, and HDT dealers would withdraw all financial support from the race team. In late February, Brock started sending out invitations to a black-tie dinner in Melbourne where he would be unveiling a totally new upmarket model - the Director.

It was the first Holden had heard of it, and it demanded details of specifications and design. The Director had no Australian Design Rules certification, no crash testing, no compliance plate - it couldn't be legally sold anywhere in the world. Brock refused to show Holden the car, instead threatening to take the matter to the federal government: "Some boys in Canberra would take a very dim view of a big American company trying to stop an Australian manufacturer having a go."

Holden told Brock that if he unveiled the Director at the dinner, their association was finished. Brock, who still insisted it was a Brock car, not a Holden, went ahead. At the launch he and Dowker pulled a United Nations flag - so much for the little Aussie battler - off the extravagantly styled car. Brock's part in the $10m a year business was over. The licence to print money had been snatched away.



Source : http://bulletin.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=143762

[Streets]

So Brock was insane?

[platinumXR]

Originally Posted by redxm

Surely a Chev badge would work just as well.

[Whitey-AMG]

Originally Posted by Streets

So Brock was insane?

Megalomania !

[MYVYSS]

All jokes aside...have you seen the car its going on.........then comment

The new car is insane.......


http://www.hdt.com.au/retro_vlve_sedan.htm


www.hdt.com.au its the VL/VE

[Franco Cozzo]

Looks like Holden went into their local Autobarn and bought 2 of everything they sell, then gaffa taped it to the car.

[Whitey-AMG]

Originally Posted by MYVYSS

All jokes aside...have you seen the car its going on.........then comment

The new car is insane.......


http://www.hdt.com.au/retro_vlve_sedan.htm


www.hdt.com.au its the VL/VE

That grille in that colour is straight out of gynaecology 101.....

[383 GXL]

Originally Posted by MYVYSS

All jokes aside...have you seen the car its going on.........then comment

The new car is insane.......


http://www.hdt.com.au/retro_vlve_sedan.htm


www.hdt.com.au its the VL/VE

i must say that car would look good with a chev badge on it

[[Tonko]]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

Looks like Holden went into their local Autobarn and bought 2 of everything they sell, then gaffa taped it to the car.

Hey, I work at Autobarn. And yes, i will be asking the bogans if they need a polariser as of tomorrow.

[gtxb67]

Originally Posted by Streets

So Brock was insane?

that was the word (from a successful, but not in touring cars driver) in mid 86

and people still think moff was the arrogant one of the two




there was nothing wrong with the unit itself though. but he should have filled the box with lollies instead of magnets. at least then, there would have been a use for it

[uranium_death]

They've brought it back just for "authenticity"...
I quite like the HDT VEs...they are a massive improvement on the tripe that are the base models with a spoiler attached...

[XR227]

I remember seeing a current affair program heaps ago about Brockys Polariser.
A current affair had to two identical cars, one car fitted with Polariser and one not.
They had an independent driver test both cars around a track, then ask the
driver was one different in any way.
He replied no difference at all. Then they interviewed Brockys wife about the
Polariser, and she said that if Peter Brock said that it worked she would back
him up 100%.

[XR6WGN]

I can still recall Dick Johnson saying something along the lines of "maybe he should have made it out of sugar - at least then it would have some use"

I know they are not the genuine Scheels in that retro VL but what I'd give to have another set of those seats and put them in my wagon. That's one reason i loved my ESP so much!! And that Bonnet Scoop - yep well and truley over the top but it just looks so good

[2011G6E]

I have an old Wheels or Motor magazine somewhere with a comparison between a Holden SS and a Brock Commodore with the Polariser. They were puzzled by the "odd" feeling of the handling and steering, and were sagely told that the tyres had to be left down on only 22psi for the Polariser to "work correctly".

Once out of sight of the Brock employee at the test track, they pumped them up to a proper 32psi and the steering sharpened up and handling improved, as you wouild bloody well expect after running on half flat tyres...

No idea what was going wrong with Brocky at that time of his life, but the weirdo charletan he was involved with at the time seemed to hold a great deal of sway over the great man...

[Streets]

Originally Posted by 2011G6E

No idea what was going wrong with Brocky at that time of his life, but the weirdo charletan he was involved with at the time seemed to hold a great deal of sway over the great man...

He was probably his pot dealer

[Ford_The_Win]

Mmm, more tacky plastic crap for the chattering classes. As I have said before, bogans are like bower birds, they love collecting shiny things - this car package will go perfectly with their house and land package in Werribee, Chinese symbol tattoos and 3D tvs.

[Swathe]

That Brock museum is about 20 mins drive from my place, and the bloke who owns it, Mr Champion, is a rip off merchant.

The prices to get in are truly astronomical.

It's just gimmick crap because he isn't getting anyone through the doors and wants to once again cash in on the fact he is already rich and was mates with Brock.

[MethodX]

Originally Posted by Ford_The_Win

Mmm, more tacky plastic crap for the chattering classes. As I have said before, bogans are like bower birds, they love collecting shiny things - this car package will go perfectly with their house and land package in Werribee, Chinese symbol tattoos and 3D tvs.

Same demographic with a lot of Ford owners aint it?

[Ford_The_Win]

Originally Posted by MethodX

Same demographic with a lot of Ford owners aint it?

Indeed.

[mrbaxr6t]

somebody is on acid - this thing has been a longstanding joke since forever, and they are going to "use" it again? how desperate are HDT to sell cars!!

[HenryFordJr]

Originally Posted by MYVYSS

http://www.hdt.com.au/retro_vlve_sedan.htm


www.hdt.com.au its the VL/VE

Well that's the ugliest thing I have ever seen, looks like they have just slapped on some leftover plastic from the 80s onto a VE.

Just one of the many reasons I despise Holden, no originality..

[74fairmont]

Scotty load some more dilithium crystals in the polariser.
I'm loading as fast as I can Capn Kirk

[cowboy]

A mate of mine sold a genuine polarizer on ebay last week, we thought it might make a grand on a good day. It made almost 4 grand. Score!

[GK]

Originally Posted by Streets

So Brock was insane?

Not insane, but certainly deceived!

GK

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Swathe

That Brock museum is about 20 mins drive from my place, and the bloke who owns it, Mr Champion, is a rip off merchant.

The prices to get in are truly astronomical.

It's just gimmick crap because he isn't getting anyone through the doors and wants to once again cash in on the fact he is already rich and was mates with Brock.

I thought it had been shut down?

[Whitey-AMG]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

I thought it had been shut down?

It shut down in January this year after the floods in QLD

Rumour has it that the collection may be incorporated into the Big Pinapple site sometime in the future ?