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Old 25-05-2007, 11:24 AM   #31
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Soundstream Pumps Hard - Go see the Guy at Garry's Car Radio in Mitcham he has the Commodore "Soundstream Car" with the number plates SHHH, he can advise on what amp you would need.......

To make sure the price is right look up www.bitaudio.com.au and check the prices there, of course they are the US version sold in Aus but it will give you
a good idea on what price they can sell the amps for at a Retail Store........

And yes the Chrome Spiders are AWESOME
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Old 25-05-2007, 11:36 AM   #32
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You can either Go Fast or Go Louder.............

Go Louder is alot safer and you wont loose your licence over it..........
Yeah but 3 15's is not necessarily louder!
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Old 25-05-2007, 12:29 PM   #33
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Yeah but 3 15's is not necessarily louder!
Because Glenn wants the what they call on the street as "*** kent" value.. LOL

ps why cant you say sick without the "c" thats just gay.. well thats wat the*** is
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Old 25-05-2007, 01:07 PM   #34
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Because Glenn wants the what they call on the street as "*** kent" value.. LOL

ps why cant you say sick without the "c" thats just gay.. well thats wat the*** is
sik is not real word. Believe it or not.
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Yeah but 3 15's is not necessarily louder!
Obviously if your stupid enough to use the same amp as was used in a previous install to power 2 subs or 1 sub but in this instance it looks like EDGHIA is also purchasing some new amps to match the 3 x 15's.
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Obviously if your stupid enough to use the same amp as was used in a previous install to power 2 subs or 1 sub but in this instance it looks like EDGHIA is also purchasing some new amps to match the 3 x 15's.
I wasn't referring to that.
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Option 1:- Amp 500 rms watts x 1 PLUS Sub 500 rms watts x 1
Option 2:- Amp 500 rms watts x 3 PLUS Sub 500 rms watts x 3

Option 2 may not be 3 x Louder but it will be Louder as 3 x 15" push more air than 1 x 15" and air pressure is SPL (Sound Pressure Level)
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Hey Glenn, three dual 4 ohms is a pretty shiitty combo for amping up man. You end up with a weird load for the amp, either 0.6 ohms which is too low or 2.6 which is a bit high for a mono block. You really need to amp up each sub seperately. Bang for buck, I'd recommend the Jaycar amps. Get 3 of the 800WRMS ones like Sunny has. I've got a trade card so can get em a bit cheaper (although not much), but they still work out pretty good value per watt.

Who's doing the install for you? I'll do it! Guranteed cheaper than anywhere else you'll go :P Back in the day I hit just under 142dB from my two Phoenix Gold 15's in my EA. They were running off an MTX Thunder 2300x amp (900WRMS bridged). The same subs hit over 145dB in my sisters N13 Pulsar off a Cadence 800WRMS (made the rear-view mirror break outta the windscreen!). Imagine what three 15's would do with 2400WRMS!!
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Option 1:- Amp 500 rms watts x 1 PLUS Sub 500 rms watts x 1
Option 2:- Amp 500 rms watts x 3 PLUS Sub 500 rms watts x 3

Option 2 may not be 3 x Louder but it will be Louder as 3 x 15" push more air than 1 x 15" and air pressure is SPL (Sound Pressure Level)
however 1 15" sub with far better power handling and what have you(i dont know what specs are needed for spl) which is designed purely for SPL would roger those 3 15" subs which is what ltdho is on about i believe
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however 1 15" sub with far better power handling and what have you(i dont know what specs are needed for spl) which is designed purely for SPL would roger those 3 15" subs which is what ltdho is on about i believe
.....And it would also sound like ****. That's a pretty general comment and certainly is possible but high power subs will usually have a very low efficiency. If you have a dedicated SPL setup which is tuned to the resonant frequency of the car etc etc, then it is definatly possible for one 15 to be louder than three 15's, but in most cases if you slap three 15's in a car Vs one 15 with the same power, the three 15's will be louder.
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Old 26-05-2007, 05:21 PM   #41
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just run em off the head unit itll be fine and youll be able to fade left to right front to rear
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Personally I'd steer clear of SoundStream subs. I've managed to have 5 of them die on me within the 1 year warranty. Manufacturing faults - cone separation, voice coils coming loose, voice coils misaligned.
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.....And it would also sound like ****. That's a pretty general comment and certainly is possible but high power subs will usually have a very low efficiency. If you have a dedicated SPL setup which is tuned to the resonant frequency of the car etc etc, then it is definatly possible for one 15 to be louder than three 15's, but in most cases if you slap three 15's in a car Vs one 15 with the same power, the three 15's will be louder.
yes im sure 3 subs vs 1 sub all same model the 3 subs would sound better and achieve more spl, but what drhemi was getting at made it look as though he didnt quite get what ltdho had said.
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http://www.soundstream.com/manuals/2...ASSO%20PCW.pdf

this tells you alot about the subs..

xmax for a 15" is 0.315"

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yes im sure 3 subs vs 1 sub all same model the 3 subs would sound better and achieve more spl, but what drhemi was getting at made it look as though he didnt quite get what ltdho had said.
# instead of one will not sound sound as good or as loud as you think.

The onll reason you'd want to run 3 x 15" is because you want to tell people that you have 3x15. If you intend to run in SPL comp then fine but pepare to spend big!!

Also consider the optimum size the box. Say bye bye to the boot space.
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oi nik, you could run them in series paralel off one of ur big d class bastards couldn't ya??
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yes im sure 3 subs vs 1 sub all same model the 3 subs would sound better and achieve more spl, but what drhemi was getting at made it look as though he didnt quite get what ltdho had said.
"Yeah but 3 15's is not necessarily louder!"

Could mean anything ALL I was stating in this case which was the topic of this thread is that as EDGHIA is matching amps with subs his WILL be LOUDER

Anyway MEH lets move on...............and back on topic
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http://www.soundstream.com/manuals/...CASSO%20PCW.pdf

this tells you alot about the subs..

xmax for a 15" is 0.315"

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oi nik, you could run them in series paralel off one of ur big d class bastards couldn't ya??
Problem being is that 3 subs in any combo ends up being a nasty impedance off one amp..

Remember when i was running 6 12"s off the 2 d-class.. they were loaded to ~.6 ohm.. ended up in more heat than noise..

I still stick by my original posts..

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well okay then!!!!!! i want 6 12s!!!!!
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thanks for the replys..... DRHEMI... cant go see that guy at Garrys car audio..... dont have a good past with him... and i have decided to get 4. i did a bit more re-search and pricing and went a bit over the budget.... but if i get 4 i will save $500 bucks..... as for the instalation... it will be done by sphell wen i can afford to get it done.... i still need to get the amps and head unit... so still gotta pay a bit before it will be done.
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