FPV Confirm nothing but journalists put 2+2 together and make 5!

[ThePistonHead]

Can't be long now..

[Kryton]

No one cares that the XR8 could have its head on the chopping block?
Would be a VERY stupid move by Ford if that were to be the case.♦

Who really cares about a H.O anyway - it isnt going to be anything like the original, it wont have the prestige and it wont turn into a Million Dollars if you leave it in your shed for 40 years.

[ThePistonHead]

Originally Posted by davway

No one cares that the XR8 could have its head on the chopping block?
Would be a VERY stupid move by Ford if that were to be the case.♦

Who really cares about a H.O anyway - it isnt going to be anything like the original, it wont have the prestige and it wont turn into a Million Dollars if you leave it in your shed for 40 years.

Why's that? From what I've heard XR8 sedan figures struggle to get into triple figures a month. The only market is for the ute.

[Grunter]

Originally Posted by TUF_302

If they were to bring back the GT my god would it have to be spectacular, they cant bing it out and have it fail, thats just not an option!!

Change the letters to GT above and a lot of people here shouted epic fail on using the GT name on the "modern" BA Falcon.

I say bring it on. Put the new S/C 5.0lt with 320kw in the normal FPV range, change the GT-P name to GT-HO, up the boost to get 350kw+, add some fruit (R-spec suspension, minor body kit change, different wheels and some rubber that actually grips, etc) and sell it for sub $100k.

It will sell as did the "doomed to failure" BA (onwards) GT, no matter how much the purists cry foul.

[Ghiadude]

Originally Posted by 4VCLEVO

No it wasn't.
The orignal title of the thread before the mod changed it was:
FPV confirm that GTHO is iminent with coyote.

I didnt know that and neither would anyone walking in. I look at it and it and the thread tittle is

FPV Confirm nothing but journalists put 2+2 together and make 5!

Its a joke. It doesnt change the fact that the article and most discussion about GTHO has been done to death. My original comment stands.

[mik]

Originally Posted by Nikked

whats the point of that though, the HO is a version of the falcon, a complete re skin just for one model line (150-300 units) doesn't make any sense.


The mythical HO will have to go down the path of Something like GT3 RS Porsche, racing seats, harness, roll cage, stripped interior etc (to satisfy people who think it should be a race car, Ala the phase1-4), or a W427 like car, luxo interior balls out engine etc.

Then again, the new GT500 mustang would be a good aiming point...

Any hope of Ford building a new HO that will be the worlds fastest 4 door is almost an impossible mission.

on the other hand ...........who would have thought any one could beat Ferrari back in the old days, Ford did.

[Lukeyson]

Originally Posted by TVS Super Pursuit

Oh shyte, that's reassuring, coming from the man who bought us the FG FPV!

LOL he wanted everyone to know that it was a "Rod Barrett FPV", imo he certainly did that

[outback_ute]

Originally Posted by GT290

5.4 down to 5.0 and holden go up bigger better. they already have a 307, its the same old tit for tat kilowatts game. Nothing thats going to make me run out and get one.

On another thread it said GM were going down to ~5.5L for the next Corvette motor - CAFE requirements will be biting hard. In any case, with variable valve timing for strong power all the way through to a 7000rpm+ top end the 5.0 looks to be a pretty promising device with or without forced induction.

Originally Posted by naddis01

t no stage has Barrett said that a GTHO is imminent. That article is very 'creative'. He may have implied that in some stage in the future there 'might' be a GTHO.

Agree with you 100%, he said he hoped it might be imminent, perhaps, if it was possible, maybe...

Originally Posted by ThePistonHead

Why's that? From what I've heard XR8 sedan figures struggle to get into triple figures a month. The only market is for the ute.

Not surprising when the Boss engine & XR8 has been absolutely caned by the press & plenty of enthusiasts for the last 5-6 years. If the 5.0 can deliver the goods, who knows? If it is s/c then it would have to make for some difficult decisions against the XR6T (have to assume the price gap would be reinvented).

Personally I don't think the time is right for a HO just yet, perhaps in a year or three. I agree that if they do it, they need to get it right.

[mrbaxr6t]

if they make a gtho it has to be a limited number run not this mass produced tripe gts they make today you want the mystique and the aura and all the feel good pixie dust? if its limited production run (even if its a dog of a car) people will aspire to want one because its a rarity, but FPV won't do it not enough money in that

[Road_Warrior]

Just as long as it has a Coyote V10 in it.

[Nikked]

If ford want to have a 'hero' car, i.e, somthing that would sit above the current GT, what else could you call it? It needs to have a name that is knowen, Thats why you can still get GT500 mustangs.

GT-R, GT-S, GT-T etc won't work.

I could see it as this.

GS sits where the GT is now, only cheaper, with a N/A engine. GT Moves up becomes the 'hero' car, supercharged and all. GT-P is dropped, with the GS able to be speced up to GT specs (minus, say a supercharged engine and GT unique body kit). GT-E is renamed GXL or ESP... or something.

Or it says how it is with a GT-HO...

Either way thats just a imagination running wild.

[4Vman]

GT-H is what we'll get..

[gtfpv]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

GT-H is what we'll get..

GT-huh ???

[4Vman]

A new model to replace the GT-P; the GT-H was definately on the cards as of a few months ago.
If i was going to predict the FG2 FPV V8 range id say the GT-P will go and we'll see GT, GT-E and GT-H, GS is a 50/50 depending on XR8......
Crystal ball says GT/GT-E 330kw coyote, GT-H with 360kw coyote...

But hey, i might be wrong....

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

A new model to replace the GT-P; the GT-H was definately on the cards as of a few months ago.
If i was going to predict the FG2 FPV V8 range id say the GT-P will go and we'll see GT, GT-E and GT-H, GS is a 50/50 depending on XR8......
Crystal ball says GT/GT-E 330kw coyote, GT-H with 360kw coyote...

But hey, i might be wrong....

GT-H was only gonna come if there is a business case, but I have heard good things.

[Ghiadude]

I thought GT-H was a trademark registered for the hertz rental mustangs in the states?

[Swordsman88]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

A new model to replace the GT-P; the GT-H was definately on the cards as of a few months ago.
If i was going to predict the FG2 FPV V8 range id say the GT-P will go and we'll see GT, GT-E and GT-H, GS is a 50/50 depending on XR8......
Crystal ball says GT/GT-E 330kw coyote, GT-H with 360kw coyote...

But hey, i might be wrong....

Or not. I think that is pretty damn close to be honest. As you say GS/XR8 is the bit yet to be resolved. Either way, there will be more than one version of coyote (prob. 3) and the GT-H will get one of them. I'd like to know what the torque numbers will be on these SC engines though....551nm is what the GT has now, so the base SC coyote must make a good 570-580nm (detuned at that) no? GT-H in the 620nm range?? Geez i hope they have worked on getting that power to the ground.....

[T3ts50]

From the this carsales link, it looks like Ford will continue with the XR8 in Coyote form.

http://www.carsales.com.au/news/2010...s-new-v8-17839

[chevypower]

Well I also think the XR8 will get the Coyote, remember Carsales is the one that keeps reporting a Coyote 5.8 is going to appear. This will happen around about the same time that I will eat my hat.

[Ghiadude]

Once again it doesnt confirm coyote for XR8 it simply states that coyote will be the v8 used beyond june '10

[Grunter]

If GT = 330
and GT-H = 360
and Pursuit = 330
will Super Pursuit = 360?

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by Grunter

If GT = 330
and GT-H = 360
and Pursuit = 330
will Super Pursuit = 360?

One would hope so!!

[FPV GTHO]

Super Pursuit may get dropped, especially if Pursuit inherits some of its spec and theres nothing left to give the upper spec model.

[Swordsman88]

Originally Posted by bfiipursuit

One would hope so!!

360kw and 600+nm through a live end....be careful what you wish for buddy....

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by Grunter

If GT = 330
and GT-H = 360
and Pursuit = 330
will Super Pursuit = 360?

No chance... any why on earth would you? its just a fancy workhorse...

[Grunter]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

No chance... any why on earth would you? its just a fancy workhorse...

So remind me again why there is a Super Pursuit and a Pursuit? Also does anyone know which one sells in greater numbers?

[gtfpv]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

A new model to replace the GT-P; the GT-H was definately on the cards as of a few months ago.
If i was going to predict the FG2 FPV V8 range id say the GT-P will go and we'll see GT, GT-E and GT-H, GS is a 50/50 depending on XR8......
Crystal ball says GT/GT-E 330kw coyote, GT-H with 360kw coyote...

But hey, i might be wrong....

interesting prediction . sounds like new horizons around the corner . we'll see if this rings true.

[b2tf]

Originally Posted by Grunter

So remind me again why there is a Super Pursuit and a Pursuit? Also does anyone know which one sells in greater numbers?

No numbers as such but I would be almost certain the Super Pursuit outsells the 'regular' Pursuit.

[DJL351]

Originally Posted by b2tf

No numbers as such but I would be almost certain the Super Pursuit outsells the 'regular' Pursuit.

Agreed - however I think FPV will drop one of the utes; possibly doing a 'special' limited numbers version instead.

Complete FPV line up as I see it

F6
GT
GTE
F6 Ute
GT Ute (carrying either Pursuit or Super P)
&
GTP/GTH

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by Grunter

So remind me again why there is a Super Pursuit and a Pursuit? Also does anyone know which one sells in greater numbers?

The Super pursuit is the biggest seller and id say will stay, it just doesn't need or warrant the "bigger" engine.