Turboing an AU

[blueoval]

yeah that's troys car.

Agree on centrifugals being more ordinary. Twin screw is better. Snort do an excellent twin screw unit which is more efficient than the centrifugal

[frd906]

Sorry about that postive and negative post i did, was copied over from when i asked the same things geas ago, but the negatives and postives of both setups will still apply,

[robbyj]

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ford-turbo-ki...item4aa578404a

found this while trolling thru eBay.
I have no idea what im looking at, but someone will know
Says its new aswell.

[Day-mow]

Originally Posted by bobuleh

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ford-turbo-ki...item4aa578404a

found this while trolling thru eBay.
I have no idea what im looking at, but someone will know
Says its new aswell.

should of listened to mum and dad when they said you should have $1000 in you bank at all times

[SXR6]

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Ford-Falcon-M...item27b5da1428

This kit has a fair whack of what you need.

Flick the turbo for something decent. ala T04z.
Get yourself an intercooler (600x300x76), ebay special.
Pipe work to suit.. either get a DIY kit which are fairly average or most exhaust places can do that, aswell as mate your dump to the exhaust.
3inch exhaust at minimum with a decent cat.
Pick up some 42lb injectors, Green tip Ev2 for motorsports will do the trick.
Flick the spring in the wastegate for an 8psi one. 10psi if your brave and your tuner is good.
Get the Xcal3 with custom tune.

Will set you back around 6k if you do a fair bit of the work yourself.
You will break gearboxes, auto or manual you will break them. Take that into consideration. Diffs aren't too bad but everything has a limit.

[blueoval]

looks like a good kit. Certainly good value if you cbf doing your own work. Then all u need to do is find u a reputable Tuner to custom tune. Have some extra cash in the bank when u break gear boxes etc.

[Day-mow]

Yeah not keen on breaking my manual. S/C ftw

[blueoval]

you still thinking of a snort s/c Day Mow?

[Day-mow]

Rekn Rapter and head work although capa say they'll put put more 240 vs 220

[SXR6]

You can still break it with a supercharger? lol
You can break them with stock power n/a.
Power wont kill these boxes, its the clutch dumps, flat changing and clutch kicks that will destroy them. Believe me I've blown 3.
In gear acceleration will save these boxes..
Or you could spend 2k and put in a T5z spec, fair bit stronger than stock. Had the T5z in mine for about 12months, never a problem, same hard driving style, sold with that box still running perfect with a brass button clutch.

[SXR6]

Im all for supercharging, Raptor are good. But limited to what power you can make, but last I heard there was a bigger unit one coming out?
I personally would go for a Vortech from Capa.

[Mr Hardware]

Originally Posted by SXR6

Power wont kill these boxes, its the clutch dumps, flat changing and clutch kicks that will destroy them.

Truth. These boxes can handle big power, they just can't handle abusive driving styles.

[SXR6]

Actually having said all that, B series XR6T and F6 motors are poping up on Ebay for around the 4k mark. Dump a stronger, low K, more advanced engine in. Just a thought lol.

[Day-mow]

Capa sc I rekn bit cheaper to

[blueoval]

Capa are larger than Raptor and made to push out more volume. So yes I would recommend a CAPA also.

But I still stand by my thought of doing an xr6t conversion. It will bolt up to your stock AU trans.

Motor is built to handle boost so you have that peace of mind. Plus its somewhat unique.

[Day-mow]

It's also cheaper to go sc so that's a win I'll b on a budget

[Barryxr6turbo]

Cheaper but not as good.

The worst thing you can do is compromise when spending this kind of coin. In 6 months you dont want to be bored with your first choice then change it all to something better.

[blackers10]

for blowers its WAY cheaper to get one from the states, but you need to get ahold of a bracket etc

the turbo option.. you are best going with a snort kit and an Atomic motor to handle big power if you want to spend lots

[The Monty]

Snort plus atomic = 9's, lol.

[Barryxr6turbo]

Has anyone gone that fast with snort gear yet?

[The Monty]

Not sure, but I know there are 4L E series SOHC in the low 9's, and I think high 8's.

[blownv8au]

Originally Posted by blackers10

for blowers its WAY cheaper to get one from the states, but you need to get ahold of a bracket etc

the turbo option.. you are best going with a snort kit and an Atomic motor to handle big power if you want to spend lots

It might be different now but when i bought my charger about 12 months ago you might have saved a couple of hundred on a vortech over getting one here if you were lucky. I bought a rebuilt one from capa and bracket, pulleys and sourced the rest myself, owes me about $6500 -$7. I haven't put on the intercooler or tuned it yet but goes well and i have no 2nd gear anymore not that it needs it lol. But on a sixpot i think you would be better off with a turbo because it will be a much different kind of power to a superchargered six which would be like driving a na v8 with an exhaust but without the v8 note. Its personal preferance but i think turbo will fell more powerfull than a supercharger and you will have higher psi all through the rev range.

[justa6]

few thing's i can add.
1. turbo made my ute better on fuel almost everywhere. when it was manual.
2. the few centrifugal sc car's i've been in seem to take for ever to get going, and had to rev them hard, turbo it's all there at 2 or so, heap's more torque.
3. my t5z broke with just straight acceleration in third, 2 month's.

but blueoval has the proof. if you want a car that goes pretty hard but not breaking thing's. go an off the shelf kit and keep it around 200rwkw. i'd still go turbo though.

[HLC]

Originally Posted by SXR6

You can still break it with a supercharger? lol
You can break them with stock power n/a.
Power wont kill these boxes, its the clutch dumps, flat changing and clutch kicks that will destroy them. Believe me I've blown 3.
In gear acceleration will save these boxes..
Or you could spend 2k and put in a T5z spec, fair bit stronger than stock. Had the T5z in mine for about 12months, never a problem, same hard driving style, sold with that box still running perfect with a brass button clutch.

sounds like someone i use to know.

[SXR6]

Silverxr.. you must have been making mass amounts of torque to break one while in gear.. maybe hard changes and a bit of abuse 'weakened' it.. But having said that a T5z is stock out of the BA XR6T's and they werent much chop when they got tickled.

BlownV8au.. the turbo set up will be good for out right power, but the charger set ups give you more 'useable' power on the street. Comes down to what the owner wants and how its set up. Either will be very street friendly if done properly.

HLC really? lol glad to see im not the only rev head.

Crackers, supercharger kits have dropped in price considerably over the last couple of years. I can't see much savings buying from the US. We are talking full kits for under 5k now from Capa. But you wouldnt buy a full kit from Capa. Get the blower unit, belts and brackets. The rest you would source yourself.

[Day-mow]

i sitll think the S/C is the way im going to go

[The Monty]

Originally Posted by SXR6

Silverxr.. you must have been making mass amounts of torque to break one while in gear.. maybe hard changes and a bit of abuse 'weakened' it.. But having said that a T5z is stock out of the BA XR6T's and they werent much chop when they got tickled.

Pretty sure he has had around 350rwkw for the last 6 years, which would mean a metric butt load of torque, lol.

[justa6]

ha ha yeah that's the measurement monty. i never did a skid with the z, never really got up first gear. was just flat in third, just about to change and ratatatatatatatatatatataataatatatatata. i s@#t myself, my mate look's at me and say's "you just done the box bro" ha ha babied it home.

[blueoval]

Everyone has very valid points here. I'm in agreeance with the turbo's having more torque power across the board and they will be somewhat superior to a s/c for outright power.

But if the OP wants to maintain the stock driveline, have very few setup hassles and is content with between 190-220rwkw max as a daily driver, then an s/c kit is definitely worthy of consideration. Especially if he intends on not abusing his driveline and drives the car with some respect. As long as he is up with his maintenance, and adds other precautions (trans cooler, shift kit etc) he should still see his standard drive line in tact for years to come. Mine is still in good shape. I don't see why other's can't be either.

Same can be said for turbo's to some degree. Although setting up is a bit more involved. I don't see why a low boost option here cannot be achieved either. The key here though is 'low boost'. On a stock AU motor I was recommended to not go past 9lbs or there is a strong chance of grenading it. So unless the OP intends on fitting a decomp plate or thicker head gasket, 9psi is basically the limit on a stock AU motor. Even then there is no guarantee you won't kill it with those minor adjustments made.

Plus if you are fitting a turbo system to a stock AU motor, who in their right mind doesn't want to add more boost to their system and really feel the kick? That would be my temptation at the risk of potential damage. That would be one of the reasons I would go turbo as well as the potential for more power later assuming my bank account was unlimited. Then again if it was unlimited I guess I wouldnt be having this conversation.....LOL.

haha, Im procrastinating too much. I'll leave it there.

[Day-mow]

I don't need a trans cooler or a shift kit do I? It's a manual