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Old 16-03-2020, 09:02 PM   #31
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This is a con and it’s remarkable how many people have swallowed the media driven bait hook line and sinker. 20,000 people in the US alone have died from influenza this season (so far) alone
Did you read that on the internet did you?

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while 3000 people have died from Covid 19 worldwide.
This is what happens when the misinformed try to preach.

Get back into your burrow. Much safer for everyone else while you're in there.
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Old 16-03-2020, 09:07 PM   #32
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How ridiculous, and its this type of thinking that will make this issue so much worse then it is, the fact the your not taking it seriously. "Media Driven Bait"? where did you get your facts from? The MEDIA...

You don't seriously believe the F1, Euro Cup, NBA were all postponed because of Media Hype, Multi Million Dollar industries postponing events because of a mild like flu?

We are being drip fed what we need to know at a slow rate to ease the panic and carnage thats about to unfold.
Agreed, I just finished a 2 hour debate with my 19yr old Daughter who is just as adamant that its all just a media beat up and will be all blown over in a few months, she figures if its as bad as being made out why doesn't the government just order a nationwide lockdown, trying to explain to her that we don't live in Communist China and that full enforcement like that in one swoop would result in riots, I said you see how they're reacting over toilet paper without taking away civil liberties, imagine if they we're told it was their last chance to go outside or shop for the next month.

I have no doubt it was lost on her, the best thing I've seen said about this situation is that Australians have viewed world events through their TV screens and have never had to face this type of situation before so have a false sense of security and I think my Daughter fits that description perfectly.
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This is what happens when the misinformed try to preach.

Get back into your burrow. Much safer for everyone else while you're in there.
Cringy comments?
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Old 16-03-2020, 09:32 PM   #34
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Old 16-03-2020, 09:35 PM   #35
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Did you read that on the internet did you?


This is what happens when the misinformed try to preach.

Get back into your burrow. Much safer for everyone else while you're in there.
What are the ‘real’ figures then? Easy enough to post crap at others from the safety of a keyboard.
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https://www.worldometers.info/corona...navirus-cases/
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Old 16-03-2020, 10:47 PM   #37
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I thought flights would become fairly cheap but QANTAS is still charging the usual for domestic flights.

Let's see if we go into lockdown between now and next Friday when im on the plane

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The idea of schools closing has been examined and is unlikely to happen.
Experience from elsewhere suggests that it has no benefit and provided schools make other changes like no assemblies etc then school can remain a safe place for kids.
Will be interesting to see how people react to so many things closing for extended periods. Perhaps we'll begin to question if the simpler life without it all is actually better.
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Old 17-03-2020, 06:14 AM   #39
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The idea of schools closing has been examined and is unlikely to happen.
Experience from elsewhere suggests that it has no benefit and provided schools make other changes like no assemblies etc then school can remain a safe place for kids.
Will be interesting to see how people react to so many things closing for extended periods. Perhaps we'll begin to question if the simpler life without it all is actually better.
Experience from where? You are talking through your backside!

Exactly the opposite. This is a highly contagious virus, person to person transmission is very high, and school kids can easily be carriers.
The potential for family to the child to another child and then another family is very high.
China, Japan, Italy, South Korea, many parts of the EU - schools were amongst the first to close!
People want their kids safe in case you hadn't noticed.
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This is now more than just an “inconvenience”

“Deputy Chief Medical Officer Paul Kelly has warned that up to 150,000 Australians could die from the coronavirus.

Professor Kelly today said the number of infections would be “somewhere in the range” of 20 per cent to 60 per cent of the population.

“This is an infectious disease,” he said from Canberra. “The more we can do to separate people and stop the disease spreading, the better. The death rate is around 1 per cent. You can do the maths.”

Under a best-case scenario, which would be a 20 per cent infection rate, he said around 50,000 people out of 5 million infected with the disease could die.

A moderate scenario would mean around 100,000 dead.”
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GovCo is running through the numbers, it will come down to:

a) quarantine most the country for weeks/months and emerge with 95-99% of the population virus free

or

b) no quarantine and have 100% of the population with the virus

I think you may be able to work out which option. ScoMo is already socialising 6 months disruption.

This will mean only absolutely essential work will continue: defence force, groceries, pharmacies, supply transport, health care, electricity, water, sanitation, oil refining, telecommunications-internet, Netflix, etc. Everyone else stays home, and hopefully many can work from home.

GovCo will work out some sort of rostering system for people to essentials from the local supermarkets e.g surnames A-F on Monday. G-J on Tuesday and so on. Expect fuel rationing.

The economic impact is more than severe.

Some unanswered questions. Many people will have no income and no savings, how will people pay for food, mortgages, rents, car loans, water, electricity etc?
Maybe let people take 25% from their super accounts - who knows?

It will be difficult enough to bring the economy in with a soft landing, re-starting it will interesting.
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Old 17-03-2020, 07:28 AM   #42
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One more thing, our GovCo and TrumpCo need to close the stock market for a few weeks and figure out the best recovery approach. The stock market aided by our doomsday media is nothing but an unnecessary distraction.
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I thought flights would become fairly cheap but QANTAS is still charging the usual for domestic flights.

Let's see if we go into lockdown between now and next Friday when im on the plane
MEL to SFO is $1K return when I checked on Saturday
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The idea of schools closing has been examined and is unlikely to happen.
Experience from elsewhere suggests that it has no benefit and provided schools make other changes like no assemblies etc then school can remain a safe place for kids.
Will be interesting to see how people react to so many things closing for extended periods. Perhaps we'll begin to question if the simpler life without it all is actually better.
Well, many private schools in Victoria have closed or are closing down.
Teachers though will still be paid.

Here is a partial list;
  • Ballarat Grammar, closed from Mar 17
  • Lowther Hall Anglican Grammar School, closed Mar 17
  • Melbourne Girls Grammar, closed from Mar 17
  • St Leonard’s College, closed from Mar 17
  • St Kevin's College, closed Mar 17-18
  • Toorak Primary School, closed Mar 17
  • Yarra Valley Grammar, closed from Mar 19
  • Ivanhoe Grammar, closed from Mar 20
  • Firbank and Brighton Grammar, closed by Mar 20
  • Mount Evelyn Christian College, closed from Mar 23
  • Xavier College, Haileybury, Scotch, all closed by Mar 23
  • Geelong Grammar and Carey Grammar, already closed
  • Caulfield Grammar, closed until April 20
  • Haileybury
  • Scotch College
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MEL to SFO is $1K return when I checked on Saturday
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Well, many private schools in Victoria have closed or are closing down.
Teachers though will still be paid.

Here is a partial list;
  • Ballarat Grammar, closed from Mar 17
  • Lowther Hall Anglican Grammar School, closed Mar 17
  • Melbourne Girls Grammar, closed from Mar 17
  • St Leonard’s College, closed from Mar 17
  • St Kevin's College, closed Mar 17-18
  • Toorak Primary School, closed Mar 17
  • Yarra Valley Grammar, closed from Mar 19
  • Ivanhoe Grammar, closed from Mar 20
  • Firbank and Brighton Grammar, closed by Mar 20
  • Mount Evelyn Christian College, closed from Mar 23
  • Xavier College, Haileybury, Scotch, all closed by Mar 23
  • Geelong Grammar and Carey Grammar, already closed
  • Caulfield Grammar, closed until April 20
  • Haileybury
  • Scotch College
All private schools - what about us state school plebs?
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I thought flights would become fairly cheap but QANTAS is still charging the usual for domestic flights.

Let's see if we go into lockdown between now and next Friday when im on the plane
I am hanging on waiting for hotels to advertise half price rooms, coming down to melb over Easter and havent booked yet based on this...honestly would have expected some announcements on all these services by now they must be hurting.
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Qantas just announced a 90% cut in international flights and 60% cut in domestic flights. This isn't cutting the cost of the flights but the number of flights. To be reviewed again towards the end of May 2020.

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Qantas just announced a 90% cut in international flights and 60% cut in domestic flights. This isn't cutting the cost of the flights but the number of flights. To be reviewed again towards the end of May 2020.
I don't see there being cuts to prices just cuts to services, it costs lots of money to fly a plane, they will ground the flight rather than lose money.

And don't forget to factor in a GovCo mandated 2 week layover at each end of the trip
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All private schools - what about us state school plebs?
Evidence from overseas suggests that the sending kid's home idea exposed many elderly who were the ones that most frequently cared for those kids not at school.
So as i stated above and made Cheap angry about, that policy has been reviewed and revised after that overseas experience.
Keeping kids going to school but with new strict guidelines is likely better to stop the spread to vulnerable people in the community.
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Just announced in Pura Vida land... (even though only 35 positives and no deaths, government is really taking a stance)

https://ticotimes.net/2020/03/16/cos...-non-residents

I can see this becoming the norm for every country?
The economy here is heavily tourism based... And we’re still in high season!
Going to be heaps hurting financially!
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Evidence from overseas suggests that the sending kid's home idea exposed many elderly who were the ones that most frequently cared for those kids not at school.
So as i stated above and made Cheap angry about, that policy has been reviewed and revised after that overseas experience.
Keeping kids going to school but with new strict guidelines is likely better to stop the spread to vulnerable people in the community.
Provide the evidence!

You've been on the wrong end of Coronaviris since it first started, first you said it was nothing to worry about just like Ebola, then you complained about facts being racist and now you're harping on about no need to close schools - total nonsense.

Give it a rest and go back to the Tesla thread!
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So, if we take my deaf, epileptic, dementia-stricken father as a fair example of someone needing assistance - do you see me being allowed in there at seven, to shop on his behalf?
So if this was a genuine concern for you I would think you would take it up with the supermarkets involved not look here for details specific to your situation. I do not work for Woolworths so therefore I cannot answer your question.
I was simply sharing information that I had seen elsewhere and there was no mention at that time about scenarios like the one you brought up.
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On a positive note...

If we go into lock down, we are expecting a baby boom.

This new generation will be known as the "Coronials"
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Provide the evidence!

You've been on the wrong end of Coronaviris since it first started, first you said it was nothing to worry about just like Ebola, then you complained about facts being racist and now you're harping on about no need to close schools - total nonsense.

Give it a rest and go back to the Tesla thread!
NSW Minister Brad Hazzard just stated the same idea with the same justification i did. Sorry if it makes sense too.
Re Ebola i stated that some on here previously claimed it was unstoppable, would spread around the world and millions would die
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NSW Minister Brad Hazzard just stated the same idea with the same justification i did. Sorry if it makes sense too.
Re Ebola i stated that some on here previously claimed it was unstoppable, would spread around the world and millions would die
So your evidence is Brad Hazzard - outstanding !

Can you provide the actual quote, as I'd hate for him to be misquoted.
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I got ripped - about $500 return MEL to BNE and back
Watch this space mate. Quite likely a lot of airlines will be going south very quickly. Low cost carriers run amazingly fine margins, of simply lose money. Don’t book tickets too far ahead. Qantas has cut about 90% international and 60% domestic. That’s a burden many simple can’t afford
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So your evidence is Brad Hazzard - outstanding !

Can you provide the actual quote, as I'd hate for him to be misquoted.
Geez you're angry
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