VF HSV mules spotted

[hELp me]

All I can say is the exhaust is a huge improvement on the ve hsv!I've seen it first hand!

[XR Martin]

Not really the first pics, because this was spotted by someone at Performanceforums about three weeks ago.

[Danny]

I knew I'd seen these. A few days ago I passed both silver and blue ones in the xr6T on Reynolds Rd Templestowe. I tried to take a couple pics but missed them.

Those pics were taken in the top Carpark of The Pines Shopping Centre which is literally a Click up the road from where I saw them. I knew to be looking out for news after I passed them because the camo was really thin.

[desGT]

Originally Posted by BHDOGS

super charged engine good to see holden playing catch up as usual

Tell that to my stock standard 12+ year old (from Holden) VX Supercharged "S". Almost 300k on the clock, and the interior plastic still better than my FG GT.

[BHDOGS]

Originally Posted by desGT

Tell that to my stock standard 12+ year old (from Holden) VX Supercharged "S". Almost 300k on the clock, and the interior plastic still better than my FG GT.

[distortion]

will suck that the red team will be faster than the blue (in a straight line, at the very least) again :(

[stazza]

I seriously hope this fails epically and Holden goes down the sh*tter. I'm so over hearing and seeing all this speculation on the 'fastest ever aussie car ' when no one knows ***** yet. Same story with every Holden that gets released, it's the fastest thing out, but actually turns out to be a slow piece of crap, but rregardless it's still seen as a Ferrari killer.

[Auslandau]

Originally Posted by desGT

Tell that to my stock standard 12+ year old (from Holden) VX Supercharged "S". Almost 300k on the clock, and the interior plastic still better than my FG GT.

..... and the AU was also better than the FG which is better than the VE .... etc. Doesn't say much about the VE does it!

If the HSV S/C engine is as successful as the VX was .... and even at 50% more powerful (IF they do it which I would be very very surprised they do!) ..... Damn, they will be in strife!

[StrikeTwiceXR6]

Originally Posted by distortion

will suck that the red team will be faster than the blue (in a straight line, at the very least) again :(

Won't happen. The Miami blown Falcon has held off multiple 6.2L blown Commodores/HSV's at the last 2 Motor Magazine Hot Tuner Contests. The Falcon reigned supreme in the 0-100 and the standing 1/4 mile at the last two annual events. 2011 saw the Autotech Engineering GT, Herrod Motorsports GS "Proto 8", and KPM's GS "Streetfighter" all trounce the blown VE's that entered the competition, and they did this while giving away a capacity advantage. 2012 saw Sutto's (forum member) KPM "Streetfighter" equipped GT-E trounce it's rival VE GTS which was also blown.

Just because Holden/HSV or some fanboy reporter say its going to be fast doesn't always ring true, especially when referring to a HSV. The guys in the red corner have had their backs against the wall in the war against the blue corner for speed and power bragging rights, this has been the case for a long time thanks to the reign of the F6 and whatever this "mule" is, it ain't gonna change jack!

[stevefreestyle]

Originally Posted by Rodge

Ceramic brakes on a HSV , that's just pure speculative dribble, I'll believe that when I see them.

Less outrageous styling is a good thing in my opinion as is the weight saving aluminium bonnet.

Ford should take this cue and trim some weight using aluminium (the raw material is fairly cheap at the moment) and improve the aerodynamics of the next Falcon while they're at it.

And while they (Ford) are at it, they could drop in the 420hp (313kw) n/a Mustang Coyote 5.0 (or even the 444 hp version) - and reintroduce the lamented XR8. However they would no doubt not bother to market it properly again (ie hopeless) & it would gain no market cudos / credibility.

[stevefreestyle]

Originally Posted by Gobes32

375kw is a LOT of power........... Not that I think it will come with that, but wow.

Same as 5.0 S/C Jag XKR

[stevz]

Originally Posted by stazza

I seriously hope this fails epically and Holden goes down the sh*tter. I'm so over hearing and seeing all this speculation on the 'fastest ever aussie car ' when no one knows ***** yet. Same story with every Holden that gets released, it's the fastest thing out, but actually turns out to be a slow piece of crap, but rregardless it's still seen as a Ferrari killer.

I thought school holidays were over?

[Auslandau]

The XR8 IS available but is re badged as GS ...... lets not sidetrack the thread on another XR discussion please???

[1TUFFUTE]

Originally Posted by StrikeTwiceXR6

Won't happen. The Miami blown Falcon has held off multiple 6.2L blown Commodores/HSV's at the last 2 Motor Magazine Hot Tuner Contests. The Falcon reigned supreme in the 0-100 and the standing 1/4 mile at the last two annual events. 2011 saw the Autotech Engineering GT, Herrod Motorsports GS "Proto 8", and KPM's GS "Streetfighter" all trounce the blown VE's that entered the competition, and they did this while giving away a capacity advantage. 2012 saw Sutto's (forum member) KPM "Streetfighter" equipped GT-E trounce it's rival VE GTS which was also blown.

Just because Holden/HSV or some fanboy reporter say its going to be fast doesn't always ring true, especially when referring to a HSV. The guys in the red corner have had their backs against the wall in the war against the blue corner for speed and power bragging rights, this has been the case for a long time thanks to the reign of the F6 and whatever this "mule" is, it ain't gonna change jack!

ABOUT time someone who knows whats goin on...lets not mention the 2 or 3 times amount of money they had to spend on the commadores in those contests. One car had over 100k spent on it from memory...and we all know how far even 10g gets you with a GT or turbo ford these days
This new car will probably look great...but suck to much

[Cheese3]

Originally Posted by Auslandau

..... and the AU was also better than the FG which is better than the VE .... etc. Doesn't say much about the VE does it!

Well we all know the AU rocks , its like a child you abandoned because everyone told you it's ugly so you try again and then 10 years later you reunite unexpectedly adore and love it even more because of the years you missed out with it!

sorry for derailing it the thread , well back on topic now . . .

[Auslandau]

Originally Posted by Cheese3

Well we all know the AU rocks , its like a child you abandoned because everyone told you it's ugly so you try again and then 10 years later you reunite unexpectedly adore and love it even more because of the years you missed out with it!

sorry for derailing it the thread , well back on topic now . . .

You barrack for Essendon, drive a Ford AND like AU's ..... you may continue

[distortion]

How can our 5 litre SC, be that much better than a 6.2 litre SC? (stock).

[flooded one]

Originally Posted by distortion

How can our 5 litre SC, be that much better than a 6.2 litre SC? (stock).

driveline loss

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by distortion

How can our 5 litre SC, be that much better than a 6.2 litre SC? (stock).

-Multiple cams?
-Higher flowing multivalve heads?
-Power per litre?

[Gobes32]

Can I just point out the obvious and remind everyone that the title of Australia's fastest car does not equate to more sales. FPV will attest to that, in fact all it's good for is for kids to argue over in the school yard.

[djjase]

I actually prefer the current HSV with the bonnets and the guard vents - makes them stand out from a basic commondore, such a shame these won't have them, they won't look that much different except different tail lights, grille, bumper bars and few other things - just makes changing a cheaper basic model into one easier and for lots less money - pretty much like people do with the XR8's just put a GT stripe on her mate or change the front bar or better still put a "turbo" badge on a XR6

[XRDeeze]

[Mighty Reds]

FFS, now Holden are going to bang on about Nurburgring times just like GM does in the US.

[Deco28]

Originally Posted by Mighty Reds

FFS, now Holden are going to bang on about Nurburgring times just like GM does in the US.

Oh god, I didn't consider this.

[T3ts50]

Originally Posted by Mighty Reds

FFS, now Holden are going to bang on about Nurburgring times just like GM does in the US.

At least we know James May will hate it then.

[Whitey-AMG]

Originally Posted by Gobes32

Can I just point out the obvious and remind everyone that the title of Australia's fastest car does not equate to more sales. FPV will attest to that, in fact all it's good for is for kids to argue over in the school yard.

It will be australias fastest Holden.....that's all that counts
The car looks good....no doubt. Better than FG.
All hail the new BOGAN M5.......this will sell like nuclear rockets in north korea.

[FPV GTHO]

Originally Posted by Gobes32

Can I just point out the obvious and remind everyone that the title of Australia's fastest car does not equate to more sales. FPV will attest to that, in fact all it's good for is for kids to argue over in the school yard.

Haven't the last 2 cars to claim that been limited editions anyway? GT R-Spec and W427?

[Cheese3]

Originally Posted by Auslandau

You barrack for Essendon, drive a Ford AND like AU's ..... you may continue

Can we be friends ?

[Buntz]

When you read a Drive article about a Commodore, and you didn't know better... you'd think it the best car in the world.

[XR6T0Y]

Originally Posted by XRDeeze

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That has got to be the most ugly front end of any car I have ever seen

It's like it's gawking at its own ugliness