RAM boss praises locally made trucks

[FTE217]

thats the one I was looking at hence my thought to check naddis.....
I sure wouldn't believe everything an article quotes, much like reading wiki.
As for the data base we use I'm going to check up how up to date it is.
It works off rego or vin numbers or models might I add so I expect it needs to be freshed update monthly at least but I'll report back once I have more meat.
VFacts would operate similar I expect, they can only rely on the gov registry systems.

[Sprintey]

on this link here:

https://www.drive.com.au/news/vfacts-october-2022-wrap/


Alex from the Drive team has answered a 4x4 ute numbers question in the comments:

"Chevrolet Silverado 1500 1347
Chevrolet Silverado HD 431
Ford Ranger 4x4 34,536
GWM Steed 4x4 2
GWM Ute 4x4 6073
Isuzu Ute D-Max 4x4 17,322
Jeep Gladiator 1210
LDV T60/T60 Max 4x4 4588
Mazda BT-50 4x4 8511
Mitsubishi Triton 4x4 21,783
Nissan Navara 4x4 7880
RAM 1500 4,232
RAM 2500 530
RAM 3500 48
SsangYong Musso/Musso XLV 4x4 1336
Toyota HiLux 4x4 40,058
Toyota LandCruiser pick-up/cab-chassis 9633
Volkswagen Amarok 4x4 3407

Total 162,927"

quite a lot of RAM there, about half of Cruiser ute

[Bossxr8]

The Navara has completely tanked.

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

The Navara has completely tanked.

They read the market completely wrong with the current generation Navara.

Nissan were seeing the trend towards dual-cabs becoming a varsatile family car. As such, they softened they styling to be less tonka-truck and find favor with women. They also switched to coil springs in the attempt to offer a more refined driving experience.

Except that's not what buyers wanted. The softer styling put male buyers off and the softer suspension did not provide the required load and towing ability.

At the same time Toyota, Ford and Isuzu doubled down on the tough styling and load carrying ability. Nissan got caught on the wrong foot and in the process got forgotten about.

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

They read the market completely wrong with the current generation Navara.

Nissan were seeing the trend towards dual-cabs becoming a varsatile family car. As such, they softened they styling to be less tonka-truck and find favor with women. They also switched to coil springs in the attempt to offer a more refined driving experience.

Except that's not what buyers wanted. The softer styling put male buyers off and the softer suspension did not provide the required load and towing ability.

At the same time Toyota, Ford and Isuzu doubled down on the tough styling and load carrying ability. Nissan got caught on the wrong foot and in the process got forgotten about.

IIRC, a major public admission from Nissan was not enough consideration of major markets like Australia when developing the current Navara. Rear coils is OK, not setting up the rear suspension to provide rear leaf sprung load abilities with the superior handling dynamics of coils and then have it work in sync with the front suspension was one possible issue.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

IIRC, a major public admission from Nissan was not enough consideration of major markets like Australia when developing the current Navara. Rear coils is OK, not setting up the rear suspension to provide rear leaf sprung load abilities with the superior handling dynamics of coils and then have it work in sync with the front suspension was one possible issue.

They completely stuffed the suspension tune. They have had about 3 goes at trying to revise it since.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

They completely stuffed the suspension tune. They have had about 3 goes at trying to revise it since.

Subcontract out to HSV - job done

[janddbone]

They missed the Pikup in that list.

[GCRXR6]

Crikey the things are huge. I was about to hop out of my Everest today, when a Ram reversed into the space beside us. Fair dinkum, I thought about taking a snack for the journey to the end of it.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by GCRXR6

Crikey the things are huge. I was about to hop out of my Everest today, when a Ram reversed into the space beside us. Fair dinkum, I thought about taking a snack for the journey to the end of it.

Is it 'huge' or are the Thailand Specials just small?

[GCRXR6]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Is it 'huge' or are the Thailand Specials just small?

Haha...Yeah a bit of both Franco. Evie is a little shorter than the ol' Ranger.

[naddis01]

It still doesn't add up even with this year's and last year's figures not included. Anyway, moving on.