V8 or turbo

[ThaFlash]

Originally Posted by auxr

Seriously though, with a budget of $15,000 you may as well forget any decent Turbo - will be a money pit in the waiting.

As 4vman has indicated, for the price a low k AU2 - AU3X8 would have to be the best choice - a windsor has a very nice note compared to no note.

Good luck though - but it's gotta be a V8.

i rest mine

[mcnews]

With your budget a tidy windsor powered car is probably a wise suggestion made by some wise folk.

The 5.4 litre V8s can be much more expensive to fix than the Turbo 6s if something goes seriously wrong, and in some ways they actually have more to go wrong with their complicated and expensive valvegear and reputation for eating themselves if some dill has put underdrives on them without modifying the oil pump.

If only having that budget though and without being able to afford any serious mechanical dramas the safest bet would be the newest XR6 you could afford.

If you can afford to cope if things go wrong then a newest you can afford stock XR8 or XR6T.

If you can stretch to 20 you will be getting close to early GT or early F6 territory. But they are expensive to keep in brakes etc. so probably not the wisest choice for someone on a budget. Although their value will not drop as readily as other choices as pretty much all the depreciating has been done.

A year ago, actually probably even longer, I saw an absolutely immaculate series one BA GT in Blueprint at Etheridge Ford, absolutely stunning vehicle and it went for about 25k. It was one of the nicest looking GTs I have seen and would have made an excellent keeper. These cars are probably closer to 20k now.

If you are on a budget you also have to factory fuel and insurance costs. Check with your insurer what it would cost to insure a V8 or turbo car. Also fuel costs. The 6s definitely win on that score. And the newer they are the less fuel they use as economy improvements from model to model have been immense. And going forward you can be assured that petrol prices are only going one way, and that is up.

[ZA-289]

Your brain says Turbo
But you heart + gut say V8

[hypa]

Yea I dunno what to do :( lol maybe a wrecked xr6t running gear into n/a Ba xr6 ??

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by hypa

I'm unsure wether I want to get a v8 or turbo car I love v8 sound but turbo is more fun inspire me to choose a path

Cheap low K E-Series turboed.

[hypa]

Hard to find them not?

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by hypa

Hard to find them not?

Is a few turbo-ed E-series going around.

Just as easy to buy a non-turbo-ed one and slap a kit on. For under 10g you should be able to build a good fun car. Turbo kits can be had from 3K, add about 1k for install. My snort stage 2 kit got me 240hp@ the wheels (on par with a BA XR6T) while untuned, running rich, and with a restrictive exhaust ( unopened stock motor too)

All depends om what you want from a car.

[pottery beige]

I'm not sure what coloured undies to wear... maybe i should start a thread.. or three.....

[ratter]

Do you want a car that is legal or roadworthy?, something to consider when looking at modified cars.

Can you get it roadworthied at a later date if you need to!

[hypa]

So do the e series have a stronger motor internal wise? Why can't I chuck a turbo on my Ba would there be problems if I kept it low boost ??

[ThaFlash]

is this what your are looking for?....

[ThaFlash]

or

[hypa]

Hahahaahah

[hypa]

Originally Posted by pottery beige

I'm not sure what coloured undies to wear... maybe i should start a thread.. or three.....

I think you should wear white ones

[4Vman]

The best STOCK example you can find with the lowest K's, modified vehicles in you price point may very well be ticking time bombs, especially with high K's..
Keep some cash in reserve because its almost garanteed you'll want to fix or change something.

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by hypa

So do the e series have a stronger motor internal wise? Why can't I chuck a turbo on my Ba would there be problems if I kept it low boost ??

Haven't even done a headgasket (touch wood) on mine, limit is about 7-9psi.

[hypa]

Originally Posted by Nikked

Haven't even done a headgasket (touch wood) on mine, limit is about 7-9psi.

Do u think I could push around 7 psi on a Ba xr6 n/a?

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by Nikked

Haven't even done a headgasket (touch wood) on mine, limit is about 7-9psi.

Will it pass a PROPER roadworthy and is it insurable at a reasonable rate with a reputable insurer????

[auxr]

Originally Posted by pottery beige

I'm not sure what coloured undies to wear... maybe i should start a thread.. or three.....

Seriously though, consider what you require the car for

is it for daily transport
do you want to modify at a later date
economy
have you considered modifying what youn already have

At the end of the day, you have to make the decision, but an unmolested version, of whatever vehicle you choose, is a good starting point.

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

Will it pass a PROPER roadworthy and is it insurable at a reasonable rate with a reputable insurer????

Haven't had a RWC done yet as i need to travel 6hrs to get one, need a tune first so the emissions test can be done as a engineers cert is worthless without one.


Insurance is happy with it (NRMA) surprising, but changing soon as they keep on devaluing it from my agreed value of 8k.

[hypa]

Originally Posted by auxr

Seriously though, consider what you require the car for

is it for daily transport
do you want to modify at a later date
economy
have you considered modifying what youn already have

At the end of the day, you have to make the decision, but an unmolested version, of whatever vehicle you choose, is a good starting point.

daily driver i dont wont anything over the top 250-350rwhp is fine at the moment i have a ba xr6 n/a i would love to put on a turbo kit and run like 7 psi but i dont know how the driveline / motor would hold up??

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by hypa

daily driver i dont wont anything over the top 250-350rwhp is fine at the moment i have a ba xr6 n/a i would love to put on a turbo kit and run like 7 psi but i dont know how the driveline / motor would hold up??

What ever money you spend on modifying your N/A XR6 you'll lose plus some when you sell.
It will cost less and you'll be better off buying a factory turbo than modifying...

[388cube_edxr8]

Here's a new idea - How about a supercharged E series V8? The windsors are a strong motor and will handle a few pounds of boost - just don't rev the nuts off it and it will be as reliable as a wood burning stove. You could buy an EF or EL V8 for next to nothing, and buy a blower kit with change left over from your $15k for a decent stereo. Then sell your NA BA 6 and buy some beer.

[Dave R]

AU XR8 Ute is where my 15k would go, some people don't like the look of the sedans but the ute is undeniably badass. Don't bother trying to squeeze a turbo in under 15k, you will probably be buying an average example at best.

[MITCHAY]

You can have my '03 WRX for $15k. Stock as a rock :

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by 388cube_edxr8

Here's a new idea - How about a supercharged E series V8? The windsors are a strong motor and will handle a few pounds of boost - just don't rev the nuts off it and it will be as reliable as a wood burning stove. You could buy an EF or EL V8 for next to nothing, and buy a blower kit with change left over from your $15k for a decent stereo. Then sell your NA BA 6 and buy some beer.

Daily driver? economically Insurable? will it pass a Proper roadworthy?

[Ben73]

I don't care too much over power because if the car is too fast then I would just lose my licence. V8's sound good at all speeds. And are still pretty fast anyway.

[wicksy]

jump on boosted falcon searh malaki and he has a legal EA AIT turbo

[FPV8U]

If the Budget is 15K i'd either get a EL or AU XR8 and spend the money you saved on service items that it may be required like bushes, shocks, clutch tyres, fresh fluids front to back, new leads, coil packs, ect.

Getting a BA XR6T or XR8 and having something go wrong in the engine department will soon see you looking at a bill of over 10K.

[hypa]

yea thats what i might have to do look at something a bit older probably EL im not a huge fan of the AU shape