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View Poll Results: What is the verdict? .... Yes or No. Pick 1 of each. | |||
EXTERIOR - YES |
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172 | 46.11% |
EXTERIOR - NO |
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189 | 50.67% |
INTERIOR - YES |
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273 | 73.19% |
INTERIOR - NO |
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93 | 24.93% |
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 373. You may not vote on this poll |
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I can't wait to see it in V8SC guise with the end plate wing design. |
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EXTERIOR one thing that's a positive is it looks smaller on the exterior. Doesn't look to bad...but its the top of the line so it should look smick. Seeing the base model will be interesting. LOVE the wheels
INTERIOR Looks great...and seems to be a good step up in tech.....BUT SO IT SHOULD. And I see no reason in this day and age why the competition cant keep up with whats really a few simple additions (besides the obvious looks and quality of course). Really not a fan of the swede dash...or the cheap steering wheel buttons ![]() OVERALL....very good but certainly not a hard benchmark for the competition. Could and probably will be make or break with the drivetrains. |
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What size wheels are these? They look really big for a Calais.
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EDIT: That above pic really illustrates how dated and bland the VE looks. I wasn't sure on the rear tail lights, but compared to the VE they look 150% better. |
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saw the ss gold version at eastern creek on sat they look huge and the front wheels stick out at the sides wider than the guards |
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Just on the web looking for reactions from the yanks on the SS. Have to say while Australian reaction has been generally positive the Yanks seem to be really dissapointed in the conservative styling. A lot of really negative comments, still very early obviously
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Either way though its looks like a cruze. May be softening style to ease us into the future "commodrore".
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I'd say the VL Calais was an aggressive looking car.
I recall people said the same thing about the BA.
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It does nothing for me exterior wise. rear end looks a camry. and i don't like the interior definitely wouldn't buy one
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The pic above is the first one I have seen that doesn't look like a massaged VE, it actually looks like a new body shape.
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The red one is a v8 it has the lip spoiler! Very nice, I like the VF a lot.
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Going by the SS in the background the SS-V will continue with clear taillights.
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Just noticed on the Holden site they have an edited video of todays reveal and they have added a fake applause track to the moment the VF is revealed. If you saw the live feed its apparent, especially when Mike speaks at the podium and the applause conveniently just mutes for him in a very unrealistic way. Sounds like they got another audio grab from a camera at the event, boosted it and layered it over the original sound track of what actually was going on. Apparently the audience wasn't suitably enthused enough!
They have also reframed the shot of the front rows in the audience when the car was revealed so you can't see as many of the audience and there reaction and if they are clapping and used a filter to make them more in profile. Now you cant see their arms or the fact the level of applause isn't coming from them. They have also muted Mike so you can't hear he was basically clapping on his own with just some polite and all too short applause and I think one or two whistles form the Holden guys in the crowd. I remember thinking it wasn't a great welcome from the crowd for such an important car to them. they have also added more fake applause that mutes all too suddenly when the designer is introduced (Andrew). http://www.holden.com.au/pages/new-commodore Some of the applause was in the video streamed, but it has definitely been "Holden enhanced to go better". Holden definitely know marketing. ;) |
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Poll needs a 'not sold on exterior yet' option. Last edited by naddis01; 11-02-2013 at 12:21 AM. |
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88 members viewing a Holden thread on a Ford forum...still doesn't wow me as much as the new VF.
Looks to have some BMW/Mazda rear styling which I have always liked.
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I would say the 20" wheels will be a Calais V thing only, they may even be an option and not standard. Holden have a few optional 20" wheels which is something that us Ford fans are not used to having :|
The SS dash looks great. Wonder of the light section on the dash is still suede or leather? Looks like the top of dash cluster is leather with red stitching also. VF looks very premium, hopefully they don't ask stupid money for them. |
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Doesn't do much for me but I've got that feeling it will crush the falcon this year!
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I read that the show car wheels are 20s. The real car (Calais V) will have 19s as standard. I also doubt that the real car will sit that low.
(They have stanced that show car very well IMO) I'm liking the exterior more and more. Curious how the SS will look.
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It's still playing catchup with FG.
that lead will be pushed back further come 2014.
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How so?? FG is closely equipped to VE... VE was better in some respects. I think this car makes FG look very outdated.. So many people have been saying that Falcon and Commodore are so poorly equipped. Holden has taken this on board and made the car comparable to other makes. I can see 3500 - 4000 commodores again once this thing is released. Any one cross shopping it with Falcon won't need to look twice.
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I look forward to Ford's counter punch but this thing makes the FG look like the previous generation. Ford US better let Ford Oz pack the 2014 model with goodies.
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i like the rear end treatment, the old rear end sort of i always pictured the designers going "where will we put the tail lights"? " i know well just plonk them on the corners , it`s cheap that way".
all in all it looks a pretty effort on the new commy . |
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I love the FG but it does not look fresher at all. Still a very good car but this is like VR vs ED while we were waiting for EF in the nineties.
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The headlight design is a bit of an off for me, but the design language they're using is more in line with Opel etc - Perhaps a subtle target at Euro markets?
Either way, I can see this becoming the new BMW 7 or S class, in terms that they're in a segment people only really buy for luxury or space, whereas they're focusing on the Cruze as the new workhorse for the masses... Large cars aren't what they used to be. |
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