2022 Ranger and Everest ideas from CarExpert

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Vesper Martini

Don't blame it on being a diesel. the Euro companies seem to be able to make a 3.0D with a lot more more power and efficiency.

at least that 3.2 sounded better than a lot of the 4pot massy Ferguson sounds other brands sell. but its performance and economy are woeful for a 3.2


If the Everest/ranger gets the 600NM V6 diesel it will be a whole different driving experience

Because the whole segment offers lame noisy ****boxes, there's no incentive to offer something better as everyone offers wheezy diesel engines. There's no competition there, people still buy them in droves without needing that drive for initiative and improvement like other segments, that's why they still have drum brakes too.

Note that the USDM Ranger has rear discs, why could that be?

Look at diesel engines in passenger vehicles and look at the same capacities in the Thailand Specials - the Thailand Specials are junk in comparison to the diesel engines on offer in Mercedes/BMW passenger vehicle platforms.

I guess the Thailand Specials have a 10 year lifecycle too as per the norm with LCVs.

The 3.2L I5 Is as old as the hills, didn't it live in the Euro Transit before being offered in PX Ranger?

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Because the whole segment offers lame noisy ****boxes, there's no incentive to offer something better as everyone offers wheezy diesel engines. There's no competition there, people still buy them in droves without needing that drive for initiative and improvement like other segments, that's why they still have drum brakes too.

Note that the USDM Ranger has rear discs, why could that be?

Look at diesel engines in passenger vehicles and look at the same capacities in the Thailand Specials - the Thailand Specials are junk in comparison to the diesel engines on offer in Mercedes/BMW passenger vehicle platforms.

I guess the Thailand Specials have a 10 year lifecycle too as per the norm with LCVs.

The 3.2L I5 Is as old as the hills, didn't it live in the Euro Transit before being offered in PX Ranger?

well hopefully the new diesel brings it up to spec. though once again we are getting it too late its been available for years in the f150 now its dropped?

anyone concerned about having such a powerful diesel, see specs and they actually offer better economy.
land rover/ Jag have one producing 700NM

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Because the whole segment offers lame noisy ****boxes, there's no incentive to offer something better as everyone offers wheezy diesel engines. There's no competition there, people still buy them in droves without needing that drive for initiative and improvement like other segments, that's why they still have drum brakes too.

Note that the USDM Ranger has rear discs, why could that be?

Look at diesel engines in passenger vehicles and look at the same capacities in the Thailand Specials - the Thailand Specials are junk in comparison to the diesel engines on offer in Mercedes/BMW passenger vehicle platforms.

I guess the Thailand Specials have a 10 year lifecycle too as per the norm with LCVs.

The 3.2L I5 Is as old as the hills, didn't it live in the Euro Transit before being offered in PX Ranger?

The rear drum thing is due to Thailand tax concessions. Same with leaf springs.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by XR Martin

The rear drum thing is due to Thailand tax concessions. Same with leaf springs.

Leaf springs are because of towing and load capacity.

They gave nothing to do with Tax incentives.

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by Fordman1

Leaf springs are because of towing and load capacity.

They gave nothing to do with Tax incentives.

Since these utes are now default family vehicles, I'd like to see what percentage of owners actually tow or carry 1 tonne in the back.


I want a 4x4 ute again, I won't be buying one that has leaf suspension and drum brakes.
I don't need to tow 3000kgs or carry 1 tonne in the back, but I want a ute bed with a canopy.
Give me a comfy ride and good brakes.