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Old 23-06-2013, 04:32 PM   #1
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The dampers have been tuned for the XR ute leaf springs. We have set the full soft for no weight in the back and a comfortable ride, with much improved handling. When you are carrying weight, you can adjust the damper at the top mount to have much better control of the load. We have tested with 550Kg with great results over the standard damper. We will also do a tune for the Herrod leafs so we will have two versions of the damper available. The dampers that are on there way and will be at the docks in a couple of weeks.

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Old 23-06-2013, 05:02 PM   #2
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The dampers have been tuned for the XR ute leaf springs. We have set the full soft for no weight in the back and a comfortable ride, with much improved handling. When you are carrying weight, you can adjust the damper at the top mount to have much better control of the load. We have tested with 550Kg with great results over the standard damper. We will also do a tune for the Herrod leafs so we will have two versions of the damper available. The dampers that are on there way and will be at the docks in a couple of weeks.

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So the rear dampers do have an adjusting knob on them like the front dampers do?
I assume you increase the 'hardness' as weight in the back increases?

I wish I had a better understanding of this stuff and how it all works

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Old 23-06-2013, 05:07 PM   #3
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Hi Brett,

How is these shocks dampening adjusted, do we have to crawl under the car each time?

Is the ute set-up like that in the wagon?

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Old 23-06-2013, 05:11 PM   #4
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Its mainly in the rebound stroke and in the low speed damping of both compression and rebound. We wanted better initial control of the weight with the adjustment system and buy increasing the rebound damping the ute does not have such a floaty feel when its heavy. The standard damper unladen suffered from some impact harshness as it had to be tuned to carry loads but did nothing for the handling and diagonal pitch, which I found was quite average. The new damper helps the front response and stops the rear rotating around the front when its got some weight as well. If we increased the compression damping too much when adjusting the damper to firmer settings, it makes it kick off and generally a bit nervous so absorbs bumps well even when set to hard.
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Old 23-06-2013, 05:14 PM   #5
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Hi, Benno
With the ute clearance, you can usually get to the top mount easily to adjust the damper with no problem.
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Old 23-06-2013, 05:52 PM   #6
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Its mainly in the rebound stroke and in the low speed damping of both compression and rebound. We wanted better initial control of the weight with the adjustment system and buy increasing the rebound damping the ute does not have such a floaty feel when its heavy. The standard damper unladen suffered from some impact harshness as it had to be tuned to carry loads but did nothing for the handling and diagonal pitch, which I found was quite average. The new damper helps the front response and stops the rear rotating around the front when its got some weight as well. If we increased the compression damping too much when adjusting the damper to firmer settings, it makes it kick off and generally a bit nervous so absorbs bumps well even when set to hard.
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My new Shockworks coilovers for the front of the ute just arrived at work. Thanks to Brett and Chris to arranging the supply!

It is currently 3.5*C outside (with a "feels like" rating of 0*C) - despite this if all goes to plan I'll be in the driveway tonight installing these!


With regards to the matching rear units:

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Its mainly in the rebound stroke and in the low speed damping of both compression and rebound. We wanted better initial control of the weight with the adjustment system and buy increasing the rebound damping the ute does not have such a floaty feel when its heavy. The standard damper unladen suffered from some impact harshness as it had to be tuned to carry loads but did nothing for the handling and diagonal pitch, which I found was quite average. The new damper helps the front response and stops the rear rotating around the front when its got some weight as well. If we increased the compression damping too much when adjusting the damper to firmer settings, it makes it kick off and generally a bit nervous so absorbs bumps well even when set to hard.
When you get a chance can you try to explain this further in as simple language as possible (i.e. for an audience not familiar with suspension engineering and it's associated terminology)?

At present I find that my ute rides a lot nicer on the street when there is a bit of a load in the tray. At present I have installed King Spring FOR-304 leaf springs (http://www.kingsprings.com/catalogue..._catalogue.pdf - these like Herrods leaf springs are the Reverse Eye Type Design to "...reduce ride height without reducing ride comfort" < http://www.herrodmotorsport.com.au/H...4/Default.aspx >) and I also have the Mal Wood Ford Ute Tramp Rod Kit Installed ( http://www.malwoodauto.com.au/index....=tramp_rod_kit ) with the Bilstein shock absorbers in the rear.

I am certainly interested in the future of purchasing the rears shock absorbers to match my newly purchased front coil overs. However, my current shock absorbers in the rear are Bilsteins which I always believed to be the ducks nuts (or at least as close as you can get without full custom jobbies).
I suppose my question therefore, is what benefits/advantages or changes could I notice in replacing my Bilsteins with the Shockworks units?
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Old 24-06-2013, 12:05 PM   #8
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The dampers have been tuned for the XR ute leaf springs. We have set the full soft for no weight in the back and a comfortable ride, with much improved handling. When you are carrying weight, you can adjust the damper at the top mount to have much better control of the load. We have tested with 550Kg with great results over the standard damper. We will also do a tune for the Herrod leafs so we will have two versions of the damper available. The dampers that are on there way and will be at the docks in a couple of weeks.
Thanks.

I wonder which will be more suitable for other brands of leaf springs (i.e. not genuine Ford or Herrods), such as King Springs, then?
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Old 24-06-2013, 07:05 PM   #9
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Thanks.

I wonder which will be more suitable for other brands of leaf springs (i.e. not genuine Ford or Herrods), such as King Springs, then?
Hey twr7cx,
I am sure in the near future we will get a ute with the King springs to see how the dampers perform and if we need to do any retuning, it's not an issue and easy for us to do. Our dampers are so tunable that we can cater for any different rate that Kings or any other aftermarket leafs may have and just revalve before we supply. We can easily change the adjustment range as well to suit the body control so no problem at all. Just need to get through the range of leafs available.

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