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30-09-2012, 04:22 PM | #1 | ||
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Just wondering if anyone knows what type of welding jobs are around in Melbourne. I'm 21, have been welding for myself for 2 years, and looking for a job either an apprenticeship or by completing a DLI and getting into the industry that way.
But I can't actually find any information on what type of companies are around, and what they do! I can Mig, Oxy, Arc and Tig (aluminum and steels) but i really need a secure full time (would prefer more hours than 'full time') job. I don't mind what type of welding i do, whether it's construction or pipe welding or food industry etc. Any info would be appreciated. |
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30-09-2012, 06:43 PM | #2 | ||
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With no formal training, apprenticeship and your age, your chances are 0. Your gonna have to start from the bottom like everybody else and do an apprenticeship. Sorry but that's the truth.
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I can see you having an issue with getting an apprenticeship because you're 21 so mature aged apprentice, means they have to pay you more than the junior rates.
A lot of employers don't like hiring mature aged apprentices for that reason. |
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30-09-2012, 07:03 PM | #5 | ||
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Mature aged is 25 isn't it? At least that's what I have been told.
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But it seems all I can find is the first link on google saying its 25 for Victoria. Odd, must be 25 I guess. http://www.fwa.gov.au/consolidated_a...6/asframe.html I found that which says 21 but its for "printing award". http://www.fairwork.gov.au/industrie...prentices.aspx "Over 21". Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 30-09-2012 at 07:17 PM. |
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30-09-2012, 07:17 PM | #7 | ||
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Thanks Big Damo for your help anyway, highly appreciated, I'll double check with my source and find out.
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30-09-2012, 07:28 PM | #8 | ||
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You have no chance getting any construction pipe welding or food industry job without qualifications or tickets.
Even me as a qualified welder wouldn't have much chance of getting those without prIor experience or tickets. There's still opportunities for u in production work. Problem is they're usually **** job with low pay and you'll likely be stuck doing mig work. I was a mature apprentice and if u can hack on **** money it's ur best way to go its going to be hard to find a good job that's going to teach the best aspects of welding. |
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The only reason I'm looking at welding is I love doing it, for my current job I have made bike stands and racks, steel racks to hold wood, tables, outdoor furniture etc, its always been fun. So I thought why not do it full time, make some money whilst having fun. What are your thoughts on the future for welders? |
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30-09-2012, 08:22 PM | #10 | ||
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not good i'm afraid we outsourced a lot of our stuff to china already having said that there's always going to be jobs but good jobs are going to be harder to come by. A lot of things are still going to have to be done here.
Problem is is its not a very good paying trade for 80% of the jobs which are mostly production work where no one wants to pay money. 20% is well paid and paid what i think we deserve. If you want to make money your probably in the wrong job building industry is where all the well paid trades are but **** knows why as their jobs don't require much skill. |
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The upside to mature apprentices is we usually work harder, are more reliable and responsible and last longer than 2 months |
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As for the future of the industry, it is a shame. Everything is about profit these days, even if the standards aren't there. I know the building industry is big, I can work well with all power tools, am very good with numbers etc, and pretty creative, but I think to myself is rather do something that takes a big of talent, such as welding, rather than carpentry or plumbing which really anyone can do. |
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30-09-2012, 08:45 PM | #13 | |||
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A lot of employers look at $$$. I guess the same reason why no one likes hiring people into their 50s even though they have a good 15 years of work left in them minimum. Also a tip, don't do something you like for a hobby, as a job. Because you won't be doing it as a hobby anymore, thats for sure. |
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30-09-2012, 08:50 PM | #14 | ||
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have you done much purge welding of stainless tube? because for food industry this is a must. welds in most places will be inspected and tested. Definately a hard crank to get onto without a qualification though..try do a apprenticeship as a boily or some sort of fabricator specialising in stainless work. After that if you can get into it you'll be laughing. its a pretty small industry...
stuff mig and arc junk. staino is where its at! |
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I can't help different state etc, but if I was taking on an apprentice I would choose a 21year old with 1/2 a clue and an understanding of the job and pay them more over a 17yo who doesn't know which end of the touch to hold and which to light
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30-09-2012, 09:14 PM | #16 | ||
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get out the yellow pages and look up all the steel fabricators in your area. then start knocking on doors.
best be doing it now before this years school leavers croud the market.
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you need to make up your mind what you want to do.. and stick with it..
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welding all day you can look forward to a lifetime of eye fatigue. you could always try and get a job in a exhaust shop, mig mild steel and tig stainless.
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Well to answer your original question there are quite a few fabricated products type jobs around, especially for the earthmoving/construction/maintenence-repair industries. These deal with with generally pretty basic materials (mild steels and some high carbon alloys) and welding techniques.
I work at an earthmoving attachment manufacturer. 95% of our stuff is mig welded and made by hand. Unfortunatey like Pub247 said its not the best paid work and the current state of the manufacturing industry isnt exactly healthy and thriving.
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01-10-2012, 04:28 PM | #23 | ||
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From my experience working around Victoria and now for myself ( fabrication) your best bet is to get on to a good recruitment agency. Where you from. If Melbourne I can put you on to a few people. Call em see how you go. Inknow what you mean when you say you like welding. There's great satisfaction when you complete a job and your happy with it.
I'm still currently working in the food industry and I believe it's the best industry to workin. Mainly tig/ stainless and it's clean. You want to stay away from process type welding/ repetition and definitely stay away from these small swet shops that hammer you day in day out. If you need any assistance or help with companies etc, pm me I'm happy to help. Cheers goran |
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01-10-2012, 06:00 PM | #25 | ||
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thought of being a fitter machinist . this trade has variety work , which includes welding , and is in more demand than welders . not saying welders arent worth thier weight in gold , but there are plenty , and only the top ones get paid well . a lot of boiler makers are working as fitters . a company will always grab a fitter as there are less of them than welders .
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Also you don't know if you like doing something until you try it
So don't discount anything yet. And honestly who picked a line of work and is still in the same work 30 years later besides the baby boomers, I'm going to move around. |
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There are a reasonable number of jobs for welders - some people have the qualifications but cant weld. I was speaking to someone awhile ago and they are always looking for welders. Not sure about pay conditions etc, They usually test new employees, set the machine up poorly to see who can actually weld and who cant. Just looked up seek for you, there are 128 jobs currently in Melbourne requesting a welder. Some of those will need qualifications etc - some no. I would be looking at general steel fabrication and manufacturers as they wouldn't always require the paperwork (depending on industry etc)
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