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And I didn't start til 3pm, so finished around 8.30pm (with half hour for dinner).
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Thanks JC for giving it a red hot go.
I'm really looking forward to what you find, particularly on gas as well! With all your technical and practical expertise, I really think you need to move yourself and the family down to Melbourne! I know of two houses around the corner for sale! LOL GK |
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She sits an inch lower than the front, and looks fully laden! Needs new shocks now as she is occasionally bottoming out. I ended up starting at 3pm and didn't finish til 8.30pm as well, with dinner and rain interuptions. mmmm... cold wet concrete with water running down my back...
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Yep, I had the cold wet water thing too, as I had the car out of the garage as I had to drop the bottom radiator hose, so didn't want coolant in the garage. Managed to save 11 of the 12 litres that came out though, but some of it did end up on my arms and front - warm coolant laden water is no fun either, and it stinks!
I am running Monroe GT gas with Reflex technology (or seomthing like that) in the back of the wagon (and front too). They're pretty good, and only about $120 a pair.
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The Hammer: FG GTE | 376rwkw | 1/4 mile 11.793 @ 119.75mph 1.733 60' (4408lb) 1 of 60 FG MK1 335 GTEs (1 of 118 FG Mk 1 & 2 335 GTEs). Mods: Tune, HSD/ShockWorks, black GT335 19” staggered replicas with 245 & 275/35/19 Michelin Pilot sport 5s Daily: BF2 Fairmont Ghia I6 ZF, machine face GT335 19” staggered Replicas with 245s and 275s, Bilsteins & Kings FPV 335 build stats: <click here> Ford Performance Club ACT Last edited by JC; 24-10-2005 at 10:30 PM. |
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By the way JC, what type of convertion are you going for?
The tank in the back, or the donut one in the wheel well? GK |
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Getting back to the other vapor - Vaporate. I should mention, I suppose, that I lost one of the collets that goes on the fuel injector. So the current setup only has 5 of the injectors done. Anyway, I rang Vaporate today, and they are going to send me a replacement collet at no charge. Can't get better service than that!
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The Hammer: FG GTE | 376rwkw | 1/4 mile 11.793 @ 119.75mph 1.733 60' (4408lb) 1 of 60 FG MK1 335 GTEs (1 of 118 FG Mk 1 & 2 335 GTEs). Mods: Tune, HSD/ShockWorks, black GT335 19” staggered replicas with 245 & 275/35/19 Michelin Pilot sport 5s Daily: BF2 Fairmont Ghia I6 ZF, machine face GT335 19” staggered Replicas with 245s and 275s, Bilsteins & Kings FPV 335 build stats: <click here> Ford Performance Club ACT |
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I noticed that on mine to, dare I venture to say it smells cleaner? I also noticed that I don't get the black residue at the bottom of each tail pipe anymore. I used to clean it off every week when I washed the car, only it would be back the next week. Now I don't get it at all. My wife's car gets the same thing (new mazda sp23) and she does not have vaporate (not made for her car). I wonder if that is unburnt fuel collecting and evaporating leaving the stain?
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I have heaps of that black stuff on my exhaust tip, and I know it's because the car runs rich. I will have to wipe it off and see if it returns (once I have all 6 injectors done).
GK - the LPG doesn't utilise the fuel injectors, so I'm not sure what you mean by test case.
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If the gas system doesn't use the injectors, the vaporate system only works on petrol then? If so, why are you fitting it if you're getting gas soon enough? GK |
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The gas gets mixed in the intake tube. When you have gas switched on, the injectors are turned off (petrol still circulates through the sysem, but doesn't make it into the cylinders).
I bought the vaporate before I even found a second hand gas system, but only fitted the vaporate last weekend (I've had it in the box for 2 weeks). I am going dual fuel, so the vaporate won't be a total waste, though I doubt I will get full benefit from it.
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The air intake. The big black pipe from the air box to the throttle body.
You can get gas injectors in a dual fuel application, but you normally only have one or two, and they are tapped into the inlet manifold, and the normal fuel injectors are still rendered useless when running on gas using this method. There is only one application that replaces the petrol injectors with gas injectors, but this is a straight gas setup only, and is yet to make it to the marketplace - it's about 9 to 12 months away.
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Fuel usage results for first tank of juice 14.30 l/100km. This is worse than expected, but the car had lots of little trips and not the usual mix it normally has - I only took it to work once in the 10 days, normally that would be at least 4 times. I also filled it to the brim. If I had stopped when the hose clicked off, usage would have been 13.8 l/100km - still not great, but better.
The next tank should be a better guide. If it doesn't get any better, then all the vaporate has done is to give a better idle cold and hot (even the missus commented on that!).
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What was your previous figures? Be interesting to see if it does make a difference on a normal week, lots of small trips make a big difference. You have to remember the system relies on heat at the injector, without that heat it will make no difference. I stand by my previous comment that if your average running is small trips with very little time at proper operating temp, this system will do nothing for you. Keep us updated!
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Previous best was 13.77, average figures between 14.4 and 15.5. So 14.3 isn't bad, but I could get that without vaporate, but not with the number of small trips (10 to 15kms or less each way).
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Not sure if its been mentioned before but the vaporate is only effective once operating tempreture is achieved. so to and from work u may feel the difference but any short trip will not do much.
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If this vapourite system is as good as it claims, wouldn't the major aussie car companies be fitting them from new? It would add bugger all to the base price due to the quantities they'd purchase. Plus they'd have the great pleasure of advertising improved economies. Sounds like crap to me and I'm disappointed that a chain like Repco have jumped on board.
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JC, what's the overall verdict on this? I haven't heard anything about it (from anywhere) for ages.
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I heard that Repco have dropped the product and are not selling it anymore.
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JC, where are you? You're input and advice is always appreciated.
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Based on the crap in that book "Secrets" I'd say if you're sceptical about it working, then it won't work for you, lol. Seriously, there's better things to spend nearly $400 on - 4 tanks of juice, for example. At a saving of 1l/100km on highway only, it will take me around 20 years to make this money back. So, would I get it knowing what I know now? No. Why? Because (I'm not sure it works, or not).
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