.0019%

superyob · 29-11-2015, 06:23 PM

The evening news just reported that thousands of people took to the streets today demanding action on climate change. These bunch of noisy and mostly socialist 'activists' were also replete with all the accoutrements of their favourite causes such as land rights for gay whales because these have so much connection to 'climate change'.

So if my maths is correct, a reported 45000 people out of a nation of 23 million = .0019% of the population that is going to drive the populist policies of government because the silent majority has been rendered invisible by noisy minority groups.

Where is my brown shirt...

Ford Falcon XR6 · 29-11-2015, 07:52 PM

I knew climate change was a bull**** the moment governments started putting taxes on it. The polar ice has been on the increase for several years now

Top_Ghia · 29-11-2015, 08:09 PM

Whale is delicious but I couldn't eat a whole one.

**GasoLane** · 29-11-2015, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Top_Ghia

Whale is delicious but I couldn't eat a whole one.

What bait do you use ?

Ben73 · 29-11-2015, 08:40 PM

Problem with these people they are the biggest hypocrites on the planet.
They tell everyone they need to save the world, but wont do anything that makes them less comfortable.

Few years ago when these idiots came to protest the mines around here, it was reported that people traveled from all over Australia to attend. A lot of them stayed at a caravan park that wasn't far from the mines. Having a look at the car park it was full of dirty polluting SUV's and V6 sedans. Hardly any tiny economy cars or electric vehicles. I don't even recall seeing a Prius which people like this praise as a saviour of the environment.
I saw multiple number plates of cars from Vic and QLD. That's a long way to driving a polluting SUV for no reason.
Oh they also hired multiple trucks to transport their big steel box to the mine so they could attach the box to the railway line with someone locked in it to 'stop' the coal chain.
I guess no one told them that coal was probably used to create that big steel box they transported from who knows where.
They may of stopped 1 mine for a couple of hours, but they would of damaged the earth more doing that than if they just left people to get on with their jobs.

The thing is everyone knows things need to be done to make the world a less polluted place, but it takes time. These idiots want it to happen over night, but offer no useful alternative.

99AUXR · 29-11-2015, 08:45 PM

O-zone depletion is a thing. And also because of how it all works we only see the effects of our emissions in the future, not instantly. The median time estimation for this lag is 10.1 years but it can be anywhere between 6.6-30 years no one really knows yet. Scientific tests of smaller scales have been conducted to try and figure this out.

I think we should be more concerned than we are but I think too many people myself included its not very high on their agenda.

Yellow_Festiva · 29-11-2015, 09:12 PM

Ya maths is a little out by the way ;-)

99AUXR · 29-11-2015, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

Ya maths is a little out by the way ;-)

Calculation is done with weighted probability ;-)

goo33 · 08-12-2015, 10:34 AM

And them Ice-breakers keep gettin stuck in ice as yer Antarctic got a helluva lot bigger in the last coupla years.

superyob · 29-11-2015, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

Ya maths is a little out by the way ;-)

That is entirely possible Yellow Festiva. I divided 45000 by 23000000 to get .0019%. Is this not correct?

JP, just try to ban coal. There will be 23000000 - 45000 wanting their standard of living back!!!

jpblue1000 · 29-11-2015, 10:05 PM

Counter it with a pro coal rally. show the mainstream public the right way
I bet you get 10 or 12 people.

JP

Trump · 29-11-2015, 10:25 PM

People need to realise that this push by these closet commies has nothing to do with saving the planet. The impetus for action towards climate change comes from much higher up in the food chain than those genuinely concerned about the impact of humankind on the planet. As with the current war of terror, one simply needs to follow the money to see who will benefit the most from what could turn out to be the largest transfer of wealth in the history of civilisation.

I'm all for leaving the planet in a better condition than we found it, but this has nothing to do with mitigating the impact of people on the world.

Romulus · 13-12-2015, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

People need to realise that this push by these closet commies has nothing to do with saving the planet. The impetus for action towards climate change comes from much higher up in the food chain than those genuinely concerned about the impact of humankind on the planet. As with the current war of terror, one simply needs to follow the money to see who will benefit the most from what could turn out to be the largest transfer of wealth in the history of civilisation.

I'm all for leaving the planet in a better condition than we found it, but this has nothing to do with mitigating the impact of people on the world.

Spot on. Putin has been calling out the US and the west as the founders of ISIS. Follow the money trail he says.

I like him, he has balls.

flooded one · 13-12-2015, 05:47 PM

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Spot on. Putin has been calling out the US and the west as the founders of ISIS. Follow the money trail he says.

I like him, he has balls.

I agree. be good if more politicians where like this

nuthin' fancy · 13-12-2015, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Romulus

Spot on. Putin has been calling out the US and the west as the founders of ISIS. Follow the money trail he says.

I like him, he has balls.

Putin cannot be used as an example for anything. A bigoted, racist, greedy warmonger, but polictially savvy.

Doesn't mean he's worth the oxygen he consumes, though.

Ford Falcon XR6 · 13-12-2015, 08:08 PM

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Putin cannot be used as an example for anything. A bigoted, racist, greedy warmonger, but polictially savvy.

At least what you see is what you get with him better than the smoke and mirrors our local pollies rely on. Better the evil you know then the one you don't you know where you stand with a guy like Putin.

**cs123** · 13-12-2015, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ford Falcon XR6

At least what you see is what you get with him better than the smoke and mirrors our local pollies rely on. Better the evil you know then the one you don't you know where you stand with a guy like Putin.

Far out, we're cheering on Putin.... and calling people who are pro environment commies... you realise Putin is Cold War era KGB... he is a real commie... He likes to invade countries like the Ukraine... supply rebels with missiles that shot down an airliner with Australians on board.

You guys need to stop and think for a while. You've lost it completely....

nuthin' fancy · 13-12-2015, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ford Falcon XR6

At least what you see is what you get with him better than the smoke and mirrors our local pollies rely on. Better the evil you know then the one you don't you know where you stand with a guy like Putin.

Don't you believe it.

Our grandchildren will be taught what a failure of a human being he is.

vztrt · 14-12-2015, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ford Falcon XR6

At least what you see is what you get with him better than the smoke and mirrors our local pollies rely on. Better the evil you know then the one you don't you know where you stand with a guy like Putin.

I like how you think that.

jpblue1000 · 29-11-2015, 10:35 PM

Yob, need to multiply your division by 100 to get a percent. So .2 percent of the population! But still more than marching for coal!
JP

superyob · 29-11-2015, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jpblue1000

Yob, need to multiply your division by 100 to get a percent. So .2 percent of the population! But still more than marching for coal!
JP

JP that is an absurd observation. We don't have to march for coal. We use it by the bucket load to run our power stations, thus giving our consent...

.2 = one fifth or 20%??? That does not sound right unless it is .2 of 1%?

jpblue1000 · 29-11-2015, 10:43 PM

I don't believe the protests were a call to ban coal. But a more basic goal of ensuring the current government puts in place policy which seriously considers what many believe is a serious issue. Whether the actual and reported numbers were enough is yet to be seen!. A serious policy will transition a populace from one source to another, or actively promote searching for alternates rather than head in the sand nepotism. Done properly the transition will be painless. However I notice it is going to hurt many. And I believe coal will cease being as important as it is much sooner than many expect.
JP

Trump · 29-11-2015, 10:44 PM

And how do you know that those pushing action against climate change are full of bovine fecal matter, they try to criminalise opposing viewpoints and attitudes:

http://dailycaller.com/2015/09/17/sc...ming-skeptics/

http://watchdog.org/240476/rico-letter-climate/

Now as it happens, the letter in the article above has since been pulled, but it has been archived:

http://web.archive.org/web/201509201...residentAG.pdf

**GasoLane** · 29-11-2015, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

http://dailycaller.com/2015/09/17/sc...ming-skeptics/

I Like their style. Agree we us or we lock you up

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Thus the marches are really seeking policy to ensure clean air!

Perhaps they should be marching for Nuclear Power stations.

jpblue1000 · 29-11-2015, 10:48 PM

Good point yob! But surely the mandate for consent through use is actually breathing. More people breath and continue to do so and want clean air to breath than use coal. Plus consider the transition to renewables only increases the fresh air breathers mandate to clean air!
Thus the marches are really seeking policy to ensure clean air!
JP

superyob · 29-11-2015, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jpblue1000

Good point yob! But surely the mandate for consent through use is actually breathing. More people breath and continue to do so and want clean air to breath than use coal. Plus consider the transition to renewables only increases the fresh air breathers mandate to clean air!
Thus the marches are really seeking policy to ensure clean air!
JP

I don't have a problem with renewables JP. I do have a problem with government policy legitimising minority concerns at the expense of the silent majority...

whitelion65 · 30-11-2015, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by superyob

I don't have a problem with renewables JP. I do have a problem with government policy legitimising minority concerns at the expense of the silent majority...

But what if the minority is CORRECT??
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Plenty of examples throughout history where this is the case!!

(I'm thinking I'll regret replying to this thread!!!)

Stefan · 30-11-2015, 09:55 AM

Were all the dam greenies marching when the state government built a 2 billion dollar desalination plant because some crackpot said it will never rain again in Sydney.

The carbon produced in building the thing then have it sitting there idling away doing nothing while warragambah is 91 perfect full is bordering criminal.

Yet no one had held Flanery to task.

I can't believe we continue throw money at this climate change BS...

karj · 30-11-2015, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan

Were all the dam greenies marching when the state government built a 2 billion dollar desalination plant because some crackpot said it will never rain again in Sydney.

The carbon produced in building the thing then have it sitting there idling away doing nothing while warragambah is 91 perfect full is bordering criminal.

Yet no one had held Flanery to task.

I can't believe we continue throw money at this climate change BS...

Desal plants were not constructed because of climate change, or because of Tim Flannery. They were built as an insurance policy to guarantee water supply during drought events.

And heading into this El Nino, you may actually be glad that a government had the foresight to construct one.

b0son · 01-12-2015, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan

I can't believe we continue throw money at this climate change BS...

And we're spending it badly...

This guy gets it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXXNGjeNQTo