Good value second hand cars - COVID times, Falcon/Commodore tax

[HIPO]

Or hotrod........

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...f-3734ff80459e

[Citroënbender]

Just a sound shell, preferably with fixed glass unbroken - that’s all I really need. Have driveline, tub and front clip.

White car you linked looks a good prospect for someone wanting a manual AU.

[HIPO]

No nothing like that. Love the red one.....good one to watch for that sort of thing.

[HIPO]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

Just a sound shell, preferably with fixed glass unbroken - that’s all I really need. Have driveline, tub and front clip.

White car you linked looks a good prospect for someone wanting a manual AU.

near as i could find.......

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...9-669a2366b9d2

[smoo]

[Citroënbender]

Rolls seems too good to be true.

[DFB FGXR6]

Imagine you've got a 1.5-million-dollars to spend on a car, what would you buy? Why buy something exotic when you can have a Holden Commodore with 205,000km on the clock in baby-sh.t yellow....................1.5 million worth of Ecotec goodness.

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...E-AD-12765398/

Given to him by Holden,, 1 of 1 Peter Brock Owned Hyper yellow VX Genuine ,, owned since New,rare factory options all the goodies,,, cruise control, HSV steering wheel, 5 speed manual 3.8 V6 S pack series ii commodore, attained because his son was a P plater at the time for both of their enjoyment,,In Brock family 16 years, A letter from his son Robert Churchill Geoffrey Brock confirming Authenticity and stating that he was the only other driver, Very clean inside out and underneath, no oil leaks,nice shinny paint, no dings or scratches,,All major services done.. comes with RWC, this car would suit a collector of Brock cars , Don't miss this opportunity to Own a piece of Australian History,, P,O.A. SERIOUS OFFERS INVITED

If we look at Carol Shelby personal cars selling at 23 M ++++
this Peter Brock owned Commodore is a bargain super rare piece of Australian, HISTORY

[smoo]

No dings down the side of it, he mustn’t have thrown boxing bag Bev against it.
But that is worse than the crack heads placing exorbitant prices on HSV XU6 and CV6 Monaro… ‘very rare car’. Yes, they were rare for a reason, no **** wanted them when they were new and the same goes for today.

[smoo]

[onemanempire]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Imagine you've got a 1.5-million-dollars to spend on a car, what would you buy?

Hmm, dunno. Would be a REALLY tough choice between the Common Dore or this:

https://www.themusclecarshop.net.au/2008-fpv-fg-gt-315

I'm really torn between the two...
A stonkin' N/a V6 monster for 1.5 trillion K or a real Aussie collectable..

Decisions decisions. What should I do?

I wonder if they have seen the movie 'The Castle'?

That tag line certainly fits this scenario.



Cheers,

One Man

[smoo]

Originally Posted by onemanempire

Hmm, dunno. Would be a REALLY tough choice between the Common Dore or this:

https://www.themusclecarshop.net.au/2008-fpv-fg-gt-315

I'm really torn between the two...
A stonkin' N/a V6 monster for 1.5 trillion K or a real Aussie collectable..

Decisions decisions. What should I do?

I wonder if they have seen the movie 'The Castle'?

That tag line certainly fits this scenario.



Cheers,

One Man

Hard pass when a Miami powered one can be had for $10-20k less (IMO).

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by smoo

Hard pass when a Miami powered one can be had for $10-20k less (IMO).

Agree that 5.4L V8 is a boat anchor, they took a truck motor, put fancy heads on it, took out the variable valve timing and then had this engine in a 1800kg car, that wouldn't pull the panties off your roofied missus under 4000 RPM and then paired it up with a BTR initially, what a fail and AIDS combination. Its Ford Australia's version of Honda's F20C, except put it in a heavy large sedan and pair it up with a slushbox that will pull the speed of sound in 1st gear.

When you finally hit that 4000-7000 RPM where it boogies, you're well above dangerous driving charge speeds.

Its still shitful with the ZF as well, especially in comparison to the XR6T/F6 where it comes on boost virtually instantly and you get this fat surge of torque down low.

She's no LS, GM has had it over Ford with V8s right up until Miami appeared, not to mention Ford deciding to discontinue V8s from 1982-1992 or something, then reintroducing with the boat anchor 302 Wheezer in the E series - thats why there was a zillion more Holden/HSV fans than Ford ones, and Holden (and the Commodore) was seen as 'Australias car' even though it used imported everything.

If you think about it, was the I6 that good (E Series/AU Tickford edition and then Barra) or was the V8s on offer just absolute boat anchors?

[smoo]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Agree that 5.4L V8 is a boat anchor, they took a truck motor, put fancy heads on it, took out the variable valve timing and then had this engine in a 1800kg car, that wouldn't pull the panties off your roofied missus under 4000 RPM and then paired it up with a BTR initially, what a fail and AIDS combination. Its Ford Australia's version of Honda's F20C, except put it in a heavy large sedan and pair it up with a slushbox that will pull the speed of sound in 1st gear.

When you finally hit that 4000-7000 RPM where it boogies, you're well above dangerous driving charge speeds.

Its still shitful with the ZF as well, especially in comparison to the XR6T/F6 where it comes on boost virtually instantly and you get this fat surge of torque down low.

She's no LS, GM has had it over Ford with V8s right up until Miami appeared, not to mention Ford deciding to discontinue V8s from 1982-1992 or something, then reintroducing with the boat anchor 302 Wheezer in the E series - thats why there was a zillion more Holden/HSV fans than Ford ones, and Holden (and the Commodore) was seen as 'Australias car' even though it used imported everything.

If you think about it, was the I6 that good (E Series/AU Tickford edition and then Barra) or was the V8s on offer just absolute boat anchors?

This might be an unpopular opinion but as much as I like the 4.0s outside of decent fuel economy on the highway, low down torque and reliability they are a pretty average engine. Rough as guts for a straight 6, sound like shit stock or with an exhaust, don’t rev, nothing in the upper rpm range. Just no character to them.
Compared to say a BMW M30B35 which goes back to the 1970s, has similar torque and drivability to the ohc 4.0, more power, much better sound and pulls pretty hard.
Or Mercedes M104 3.2, down on torque but has about 170kw, revs out to 7000rpm and awesome doing it.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by smoo

This might be an unpopular opinion but as much as I like the 4.0s outside of decent fuel economy on the highway, low down torque and reliability they are a pretty average engine. Rough as guts for a straight 6, sound like shit stock or with an exhaust, don’t rev, nothing in the upper rpm range. Just no character to them.
Compared to say a BMW M30B35 which goes back to the 1970s, has similar torque and drivability to the ohc 4.0, more power, much better sound and pulls pretty hard.
Or Mercedes M104 3.2, down on torque but has about 170kw, revs out to 7000rpm and awesome doing it.

I'm not huge on Euros, but the I6 in the 1990s E34 BMW M5 - 250KW out of a 6 back then when everything was still in that crippled emissions era:

https://www.whichcar.com.au/features...-e34-m5-review

Was increased to 3.8L, 250KW,

[Crazy Dazz]

Originally Posted by smoo

outside of low down torque and reliability they are a pretty average engine.

Stralia, mate. We've traditionally expected our cars to go huge distance, and keep on going. That's the reason Falcons made such awesome taxis.
The Intech 6's will outlast religion, and the Barras not far behind.

Apart from the criminal undermining from Ford, ultimately it failed by becoming a dinosaur. An ageing warhorse, in a market that increasingly wanted cheap flashy disposable crap.

[DFB FGXR6]

I've been watching XR6 Turbo utes since before Covid, waiting for that perfect example. I want an FG MK II or FGX, automatic, leather, low kms and not ridiculously priced. Oh, and NO modifications! The other requirement being not a basic colour like white, black or silver.

On mods, can I just highlight how people like to say "stock as a rock, except for....................". Buddy, it's not stock as a rock if you have changed the battery location to fit a giant intake, a droning exhaust, or dropped the ride height ridiculously low.

And so, the below example ticks all the boxes, except for the colour. I would have preferred it to have the chrome sports bars still fitted, they have also removed the badges, the XR8 hood I could live with.

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...&utm_id=587571

Then I discovered that this is apparently a "GENUINE BAHN FIND!!". Lol, they couldn't even spell barn correctly. If this car was painted in Octane, Seduce, Kinetic, Sunburst, Swift or Viper, I'd be seriously tempted.................even though I would be shot if I brought another car home.

[Falcon SXR8]

I've been trying to find a half decent ba/bf 6cld ute for under 10 grand in queensland and wow talk about an eye opener. I just find it hard coming to grips with the prices they want for absolute turds, stuff i'm seeing for 3 grand now a few years ago would have been $300 paddock bashers. And does anyone know how to take photos anymore? I swear I could start a successful youtube channel just knocking some of the crap photos some people are using.

And I've learnt a lot of new language for instance " arab tune " " limi tune " " weldy " " manny " and everything is no rego or roadworthy.

Ive been looking for a couple months now and it seems for something just under 300 000ks in reasonable condition you have to pay over 5 grand.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Falcon SXR8

I've been trying to find a half decent ba/bf 6cld ute for under 10 grand in queensland and wow talk about an eye opener. I just find it hard coming to grips with the prices they want for absolute turds, stuff i'm seeing for 3 grand now a few years ago would have been $300 paddock bashers. And does anyone know how to take photos anymore? I swear I could start a successful youtube channel just knocking some of the crap photos some people are using.

And I've learnt a lot of new language for instance " arab tune " " limi tune " " weldy " " manny " and everything is no rego or roadworthy.

Ive been looking for a couple months now and it seems for something just under 300 000ks in reasonable condition you have to pay over 5 grand.

Mates also looking for a nice BA/BF single cab with a tray, to use as a pilot vehicle and a farm ute but you can't get anything less than drug money these days for a Falcon ute.

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by Falcon SXR8

I've been trying to find a half decent ba/bf 6cld ute for under 10 grand in queensland and wow talk about an eye opener. I just find it hard coming to grips with the prices they want for absolute turds, stuff i'm seeing for 3 grand now a few years ago would have been $300 paddock bashers. And does anyone know how to take photos anymore? I swear I could start a successful youtube channel just knocking some of the crap photos some people are using.

And I've learnt a lot of new language for instance " arab tune " " limi tune " " weldy " " manny " and everything is no rego or roadworthy.

Ive been looking for a couple months now and it seems for something just under 300 000ks in reasonable condition you have to pay over 5 grand.

We'd make a good team on that Youtube channel!

Some people are delusional with their assessment of "immaculate", usually displayed by two or three out of focus images of a car covered in dirt and empty food vessels spread across the passenger side floor. And if the car isn't "immaculate", then the seller will be describing the filthy condition of their "ultra rare" vehicle as being a BAHN find. These people should be locked in a barn in my opinion.

[CyberWasp]

It must be getting closer to seeing a DFB FGXR6 thread on buying and cleaning up a cheap disgusting filthy dirty unloved car, back to showroom condition.

Falcon Ute would be an excellent choice. There is never going to be an equivalent vehicle.

[onemanempire]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Some people are delusional with their assessment of "immaculate", usually displayed by two or three out of focus images of a car covered in dirt and empty food vessels spread across the passenger side floor. .

Couldn't agree with you more Mr.
I bought my 2012 FG II Ecoboost Limited Edition for $13858 drive away.

Sold it for $14k cash... 3 months later (cause I didn't like it) after advertising it for 8 days... to the 1st bloke who asked to see it. AND, the kicker was, he didn't test drive it! 1st car I have ever sold without it being taken for a hot lap. (No, there was nothing wrong with it).
These are the pics I used:
https://postimg.cc/gallery/pyS0CKt

Yeah sure, it still had a few of my things kicking around in it when I took some hasty pics, but you get the idea of the immaculate condition of the car (53,000kms).

Don't see why peeps just can't spend the time to:

A: Wash the thing
B: Vacuum the thing - not meaning detail. Just remove your shit / junk.
C: Take decent photos from all angles inside and out.

I have sold lots of cars, and the main thing I focus on is: CLEAN.
Sells the car every time. Shows you actually give a fsck about it... even though I may have been owned by me for a week.

Went to see a TRD Aurion before I got mine. The thing was trashed.. had crap inside, windows you couldn't see out of. Engine bay was disgusting. Idler pulley noisey... etc etc
He'd only been trying to sell it for like 15+ weeks when I found it. Wonder why?

It sold a while ago, but I mean.. If I cleaned that car, photographed it as in the above example, wrote a descent blurb, cleaned the thing as if it was my own pride and joy, I would've not only sold it, but I would have gotten top dollar for it... all day long... in days... NOT weeks.

Some people are lame / lazy / dumb asses when it comes to selling stuff.

/Rant off.

One Man

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by onemanempire

Couldn't agree with you more Mr.
I bought my 2012 FG II Ecoboost Limited Edition for $13858 drive away.

Sold it for $14k cash... 3 months later (cause I didn't like it) after advertising it for 8 days... to the 1st bloke who asked to see it. AND, the kicker was, he didn't test drive it! 1st car I have ever sold without it being taken for a hot lap. (No, there was nothing wrong with it).
These are the pics I used:
https://postimg.cc/gallery/pyS0CKt

Yeah sure, it still had a few of my things kicking around in it when I took some hasty pics, but you get the idea of the immaculate condition of the car (53,000kms).

Don't see why peeps just can't spend the time to:

A: Wash the thing
B: Vacuum the thing - not meaning detail. Just remove your shit / junk.
C: Take decent photos from all angles inside and out.

I have sold lots of cars, and the main thing I focus on is: CLEAN.
Sells the car every time. Shows you actually give a fsck about it... even though I may have been owned by me for a week.

Went to see a TRD Aurion before I got mine. The thing was trashed.. had crap inside, windows you couldn't see out of. Engine bay was disgusting. Idler pulley noisey... etc etc
He'd only been trying to sell it for like 15+ weeks when I found it. Wonder why?

It sold a while ago, but I mean.. If I cleaned that car, photographed it as in the above example, wrote a descent blurb, cleaned the thing as if it was my own pride and joy, I would've not only sold it, but I would have gotten top dollar for it... all day long... in days... NOT weeks.

Some people are lame / lazy / dumb asses when it comes to selling stuff.

/Rant off.

One Man

That's how its done!

One other thing, which you obviously did, rinse down the engine bay! It's not hard and doesn't take long, but if the engine bay looks tidy, it gives the impression the car has been looked after.

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

I've been watching XR6 Turbo utes since before Covid, waiting for that perfect example. I want an FG MK II or FGX, automatic, leather, low kms and not ridiculously priced. Oh, and NO modifications! The other requirement being not a basic colour like white, black or silver.

On mods, can I just highlight how people like to say "stock as a rock, except for....................". Buddy, it's not stock as a rock if you have changed the battery location to fit a giant intake, a droning exhaust, or dropped the ride height ridiculously low.

And so, the below example ticks all the boxes, except for the colour. I would have preferred it to have the chrome sports bars still fitted, they have also removed the badges, the XR8 hood I could live with.

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...&utm_id=587571

Then I discovered that this is apparently a "GENUINE BAHN FIND!!". Lol, they couldn't even spell barn correctly. If this car was painted in Octane, Seduce, Kinetic, Sunburst, Swift or Viper, I'd be seriously tempted.................even though I would be shot if I brought another car home.

Ill sell you mine, its 'semi standard' I wanted an OEM+ feel for mine.
When i searched for my ute, i was the same. Standard/no mods (it had rubbish wheels which i could accept)
Turbo falcons are renowned for being advertised as standard, but just arent or werent in a previous life. Probably as they are easy to make power with i dunno.
They also seem to be one of those cars where theres a big difference in price and also condition and most of the time price doesnt reflect condition.
I remember in the height of covid, i was offered more 1.5 the price of what i paid for it. Couldnt do it.